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Right now in East Jerusalem, Israeli settlers are forcing Palestinians out of their own homes. This is ethnic cleansing before our eyes, happening now

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What is happening in occupied East Jerusalem's Sheikh Jarrah?

Israel ordered six Palestinian families to leave their homes in Sheikh Jarrah on May 2 to make way for Jewish settlers.
Dozens of Palestinians are facing imminent dispossession from their homes in the occupied East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Sheikh Jarrah, in what they say is a move to force them out and replace it entirely with a Jewish settlement.

The Jerusalem District Court ruled at least six families must vacate their homes in Sheikh Jarrah on Sunday, despite living there for generations.

The same court ruled seven other families should leave their homes by August 1. In total, 58 people, including 17 children, are set to be forcibly displaced to make way for Jewish settlers.

The court rulings are a culmination of a decades-long struggle for these Palestinians to stay in their homes. In 1972, several Jewish settler organisations filed a lawsuit against the Palestinian families living in Sheikh Jarrah, alleging the land originally belonged to Jews.
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These groups, mostly funded by donors from the United States, have waged a relentless battle that resulted in the displacement of 43 Palestinians in 2002, as well as the Hanoun and Ghawi families in 2008 and the Shamasneh family in 2017.
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What is happening in occupied East Jerusalem’s Sheikh Jarrah?

Israel ordered six Palestinian families to leave their homes in Sheikh Jarrah on May 2 to make way for Jewish settlers.
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Watch this encounter between a Palestinian and a chud who casually tries to steal her house

 
Video Kojima

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There's no hope for the Palestinian people beyond Arab leadership in the region uniting and taking a single stance to remove American support for this regime.

Of course that's not gonna happen. Those arab regimes exist to keep the status quo going.
 
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Imagine chilling in your home, watching Netflix or playing videogames. Maybe you went to the store to get some groceries. You come back, and next thing you know some racist piece of shit from some other country takes over your house and kicks you out. The cops and judges also side with the settler. This is the reality of Palestinians in Jerusalem and West Bank.
 
WetWaffle

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Has the Biden administration said anything on this and why they seem like they'd rather do anything than go against Israel?
 
OneEyedKing

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WetWaffle said:
Has the Biden administration said anything on this and why they seem like they'd rather do anything than go against Israel?
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A week ago they rejected Human Rights Watch's conclusion that Israel was committing crimes against humanity and apartheid so it's business as usual with America supporting genocide.
 
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WetWaffle said:
Has the Biden administration said anything on this and why they seem like they'd rather do anything than go against Israel?
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So far, the Biden Administration has

1) denounced ICC's warcrime investigation of Israel's actions in occupied territories

2) supported Trump's Israel embassy move from Tel Aviv to the disputed location of Jerusalem

3) talked to Netanyahu and expressed full support against ICC investigation
 

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My government has decided to declare any boycott of Israel as antisemite. 🤷

and as far as I know the USA has quite a few anti-boycott laws as well.
 
Afrikan

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"Why are you yelling at me? If I don't steal it, somebody else is gonna steal it"

House that is not his.
 
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RustyNails said:
So far, the Biden Administration has

1) denounced ICC's warcrime investigation of Israel's actions in occupied territories

2) supported Trump's Israel embassy move from Tel Aviv to the disputed location of Jerusalem

3) talked to Netanyahu and expressed full support against ICC investigation
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phazedplasma said:
Do you know who runs the state department lol
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OneEyedKing said:
A week ago they rejected Human Rights Watch's conclusion that Israel was committing crimes against humanity and apartheid so it's business as usual with America supporting genocide.
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In that case, here's hoping journalists start hounding him for answers whenever he appears in public. Biden doesn't have the balls to pull a Trump and start banning journalists from press conferences.
 

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Everything down there is just fucked up.
And here in Germany, maybe because of your history, you can't even publicly criticize the government of Isreal without
someone calling you antisemite, even tho you think that the other side is as shitty.
And I'm sorry, but if the government consists of nationalists, if they keep escalating this conflict (like the other side aswell) and
you can force people out of their homes, because of their origin and/or belief, then this is fucked up and has nothing to do
with a democratic republic, that treats everyone equally
 
signal

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Can't blame them. If they don't do it someone else will!




e: Oop didn't see it as unembedded in the OP
 
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RustyNails said:
So far, the Biden Administration has

1) denounced ICC's warcrime investigation of Israel's actions in occupied territories

2) supported Trump's Israel embassy move from Tel Aviv to the disputed location of Jerusalem

3) talked to Netanyahu and expressed full support against ICC investigation
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So, as someone who is woefully unfamiliar with Israel/Palestine, would you say that Biden's choices led to these kinds of outcomes that I'm seeing in the OP, directly or indirectly?
 
Khanimus

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Stencil said:
So, as someone who is woefully unfamiliar with Israel/Palestine, would you say that Biden's choices led to these kinds of outcomes that I'm seeing in the OP, directly or indirectly?
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Biden's actions are consistent with decades of America's willful dismissal and denial of crimes against the Palestinian people, all while they actively support and help fund Israel's occupation and oppression of those people.
 
Podge293

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It's an absolute disgrace what happens in Palestine and an even bigger disgrace the collective shrug that world leaders tend to do whenever Israel commit what are essentially war crimes and crimes against humanity.
 
S-Wind

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I don't think the Palestinians have any hope of getting any justice until after the Boomers go extinct
 
SpaceBridge

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Having just watched the film The Pianist I can't help but see parallels between this and when the Nazis were resettling the Jews into the ghettos.
As a progressive socialist it makes me uncomfortable to draw that parallel. It really does. What Israel is doing is isnt right, and it should be open to criticism, and condemnation without being called an antisemite.

Am I wrong in having these thoughts?

seeing footage of armed Israeli troops rounding up civilians seems very racist and fascist to me.
 
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If anyone's holding out hope the Biden administration is going to do anything about this, don't. Establishment Dems and republicans will support Israel to the grave and don't give a fuck about Palestine unfortunately.

Here's a video of Cory Booker from the campaign trail being as brazen as you can get when asked about the illegal occupations

 
samoyed

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It's easy to condemn cleansing happening in a rival's territory, it's much harder oppose cleansing instigated by an ally. I do not think the Biden admin is up to the task here.
 
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Rockets said:
If anyone's holding out hope the Biden administration is going to do anything about this, don't. Establishment Dems and republicans will support Israel to the grave and don't give a fuck about Palestine unfortunately.

Here's a video of Cory Booker from the campaign trail being as brazen as you can get when asked about the illegal occupations

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Dems aint your friends, just a lesser of two evils.

Isreal is committing warcrimes on a daily basis and these clowns will trip over themselves to celebrate war criminals.
 

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S-Wind said:
I don't think the Palestinians have any hope of getting any justice until after the Boomers go extinct
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I'm afraid that won't happen. Israel is America's right hand man out there. Crazy how people here and everywhere were calling the Trump administration such words but the Israeli government? Nah because of "reasons" These pagan yutes on the internet crack me up. The Israeli government and Gal Gadot can eat a dick.
 
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SpaceBridge said:
Having just watched the film The Pianist I can't help but see parallels between this and when the Nazis were resettling the Jews into the ghettos.
As a progressive socialist it makes me uncomfortable to draw that parallel. It really does. What Israel is doing is isnt right, and it should be open to criticism, and condemnation without being called an antisemite.

Am I wrong in having these thoughts?

seeing footage of armed Israeli troops rounding up civilians seems very racist and fascist to me.
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It's a sad thing to see and say - but the oppressed becoming oppressors is a thing that keeps happening in history.

In Iraq post 2003 some of the Shiitas who were oppressed by Saddam - a Sunni - started to take revenge against all Sunnis. This also happened multiple times during the Arab Spring. In some nations, the oppressed Islamists took power post dictatorships and then oppressed others and then another group oppressed by them defeated them - only to oppress everyone.

Even looking back in post WWI Germany which was massively disadvantaged with insane inflation and restrictions - eventually became Nazi Germany and oppressed everyone in their path
 

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samoyed said:
It's easy to condemn cleansing happening in a rival's territory, it's much harder oppose cleansing instigated by an ally. I do not think the Biden admin is up to the task here.
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its more complex than that too, the reason arab leaders are silent too is b/c Israel is the only backstop in the region to Iran, and thanks to trump, the US has shown to be a unreable partner. they traded the Palestinian people for their owns security basically.
 
Nocturne

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there is a deep, sinking feeling i get in my stomach when i think about palestine and the slow death of the people who live there. i think about our leaders who sit back and watch it happen, think about what they'll say when israel's long genocide bears fruit and there will no longer be a people in a land they've spent the last decades trying to colonize. if they'll say anything about it all, think twice about it even.

every person in a position of power who could have done something about this yet refused to or looked away because it was inconvenient to their craven political interest deserves the worst in whatever comes after death, if there is something.
 
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Podge293 said:
It's an absolute disgrace what happens in Palestine and an even bigger disgrace the collective shrug that world leaders tend to do whenever Israel commit what are essentially war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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You will hear the usual Bullshit Phrase:

"Israel has the right to defend itself"

No One will do a thing, everyone will act as if nothing is happening. Disgusting.
 
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Rockets said:
If anyone's holding out hope the Biden administration is going to do anything about this, don't. Establishment Dems and republicans will support Israel to the grave and don't give a fuck about Palestine unfortunately.

Here's a video of Cory Booker from the campaign trail being as brazen as you can get when asked about the illegal occupations

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Not just "establishment dems".

 
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Cation said:
It's a sad thing to see and say - but the oppressed becoming oppressors is a thing that keeps happening in history.

In Iraq post 2003 some of the Shiitas who were oppressed by Saddam - a Sunni - started to take revenge against all Sunnis. This also happened multiple times during the Arab Spring. In some nations, the oppressed Islamists took power post dictatorships and then oppressed others and then another group oppressed by them defeated them - only to oppress everyone.

Even looking back in post WWI Germany which was massively disadvantaged with insane inflation and restrictions - eventually became Nazi Germany and oppressed everyone in their path
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Okay so I'm not wrong in having these thoughts as a progressive socialist in that what Israel is doing to Palestine is tantamount to ethnic cleansing/displacement and there are clear prallels to what as done to the Jewish people in Europe during WW2?

Edit: sorry if I'm making this feel personal to me, I just want to approach this in a non ignorant manner. Because this doesn't seem right to me and should be openly criticized and condemn without fear of being called an anti semite.
 
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Cation said:
It's a sad thing to see and say - but the oppressed becoming oppressors is a thing that keeps happening in history.

In Iraq post 2003 some of the Shiitas who were oppressed by Saddam - a Sunni - started to take revenge against all Sunnis. This also happened multiple times during the Arab Spring. In some nations, the oppressed Islamists took power post dictatorships and then oppressed others and then another group oppressed by them defeated them - only to oppress everyone.

Even looking back in post WWI Germany which was massively disadvantaged with insane inflation and restrictions - eventually became Nazi Germany and oppressed everyone in their path
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It's a story repeated in both the macrocosm and microcosm of society. The amount of times I have seen bullied individuals become bullies themselves. Hell I had a couple of best friends in secondary that were bullied as much as me, then they individually realised if they bullied me they would become popular.
 
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This just feels like a lost cause. All the western countries will fall over themselves to support Israel and the Arabic countries don't care enough to do anything, so this will happen until there is no Palestinia left.
 
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SpaceBridge said:
Okay so I'm not wrong in having these thoughts as a progressive socialist in that what Israel is doing to Palestine is tantamount to ethnic cleansing/displacement and there are clear prallels to what as done to the Jewish people in Europe during WW2?

Edit: sorry if I'm making this feel personal to me, I just want to approach this in a non ignorant manner. Because this doesn't seem right to me and should be openly criticized and condemn without fear of being called an anti semite.
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In my opinion, yeah it is okay to say that. I know there are people who would say that is preposterous. But if we look at this clinically - just cause something terrible happened in the past doesn't give anyone rights to oppress others even in the slightest. Especially so since these Palestinians had nothing to do with the European Jews past. The Palestinian "crime" is literally existing - ironically the same as the Jews in Europe.

SchroDingerzat said:
It's a story repeated in both the macrocosm and microcosm of society. The amount of times I have seen bullied individuals become bullies themselves. Hell I had a couple of best friends in secondary that were bullied as much as me, then they individually realised if they bullied me they would become popular.
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I love the first line - well said. Im sorry to hear that happened to you.
 
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RustyNails said:
So far, the Biden Administration has

1) denounced ICC's warcrime investigation of Israel's actions in occupied territories

2) supported Trump's Israel embassy move from Tel Aviv to the disputed location of Jerusalem

3) talked to Netanyahu and expressed full support against ICC investigation
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Business as usual
 
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So the goal is to kick these Palestinians out of their homes. They then flee to a refugee camp in one of the neighbouring countries, and then afterwards would never be allowed to return home. International laws being broken flagrantly and no one in the international community gives a fuck.
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In Iraq post 2003 some of the Shiitas who were oppressed by Saddam - a Sunni - started to take revenge against all Sunnis.
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Interesting that you'd say that considering that the first acts of sectarian violence after the US invasion were committed by Sunnis on Shiites. The fuck are you talking about?

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In East Jerusalem’s Sheikh Jarrah, Palestinians brace for battle over evictions

Court to rule as early as Thursday on four families that may be removed from their homes by a law they say is unfairly tilted against them, with tensions in the capital on the rise
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"This is a law that essentially says: what was Jewish property in 1948 is still Jewish property," said Aviv Tatarsky, a researcher at Ir Amim.

Jewish nationalists such as King argue that they are simply using the full legal means to reclaim what rightfully belongs to Jews.

"There is a law in this country. No one is above the law. Everyone has inviolable rights, and no one is allowed to violate the rights of others," King said. "Just as Arabs are evicted, sometimes Jews too are evicted."

But no similar law exists for Palestinians who lost their homes in what is now Israel during the 1948 war and fled to what was then Jordanian-controlled territory. Moreover, most Jews moving into Sheikh Jarrah are motivated by ideology, not through a familial connection to the homes, according to Tatarsky.

"I don't understand how those who chant the slogans of 'we're returning to our lost property' can live with a quiet conscience, when there's a law for Jews and a law for Palestinians," said Eyal Raz, a Jewish Israeli researcher who has followed the Sheikh Jarrah eviction cases for more than a decade.
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It's crazy how you can have a law that applies to one group of people and not the other over a situation that is identical.
 
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