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ROTS vs TLJ
- Thread starter Halbrand
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It's ResetEra. This place is less forgiving on any prequel movie than a casual audience.
For real though, you don't need an account to vote? Seems open to manipulation more than most polls... either way, that is.
Or does it just show the current votes when you click on it?
Really?
On all the forums/Reddit I've browsed, Era is perhaps the biggest PT bashing place on the internet (these days, anyway).
Not what I was saying at all. Other polls exist online that place TLJ lower that don't look so open to manipulation.
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I can't say that myself, but Era definitely is more positive on TLJ than most places I've seen.
Just realized a parallel in ROTS I've never noticed before.
OBI-WAN: I will not kill Anakin.
YODA: The boy you trained, gone he is. Consumed by Darth Vader.
Which is like:
LUKE: I can't kill my own father.
OBI-WAN: He's more machine than man now, twisted and evil.
It's a closed poll. You can't vote anymore. It's just showing results.
Ah, that makes sense then. And I assume you needed an account to vote?
Otherwise that could have been so easily manipulated, either way
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I mean, it's on the official SW site, and it has the widest number of votes. It's as accurate as an internet poll can be.
However, here are more polls, one is from Reddit, the other is from Variety.
What is up with you guys?
My post literally said "either way", as in TLJ votes could have been bolstered too. It appeared that the votes didn't require an account, and if you know a little about how the internet works you'd know how easy that would be to manipulate to bolster either film.
That straw poll could be too, both TLJ and RotS are in a position ripe for it.
What is clear though, throughout most polls is the top three is usually Empire, RotS, TLJ.
The smugness TLJ fans have for merely liking a blockbuster movie will never cease to astound me.
You are a bold one.
You are a bold one.
Anecdotal, but to people that I know, ROTS is what Star Wars is supposed to be. A grander than life space opera. They only got into the OT because of the PT which they didn't actually enjoy as much and the ST doubles down on something that they're not really into.
They want Jedi Order shenanigans and not lone Jedi hero.
They want Jedi Order shenanigans and not lone Jedi hero.
Rotten Tomatoes was review bombed by bots and the alt-right.
This is a known fact and rotten tomatoes has said as such.
Also yikes at that comparison
I coincidentally just watched Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones randomly last night for the first time in more than 10 years probably. They had some awful hokey humor for sure and a couple wtf dialogue moments but I was honestly entertained all the way through. The pacing was a lot more fast paced than I remembered.
One thing that stood out for me is how dense they are with just.. stuff. Thousands of unique exotic creatures, ships robots, outfits, planets etc. Every scene was something new. Whoever the production design team was they were incredible. Same goes for the music, John Williams was at the top of his game.
Anyways I will have to go back and watch TLJ and ROTS one of these days.
One thing that stood out for me is how dense they are with just.. stuff. Thousands of unique exotic creatures, ships robots, outfits, planets etc. Every scene was something new. Whoever the production design team was they were incredible. Same goes for the music, John Williams was at the top of his game.
Anyways I will have to go back and watch TLJ and ROTS one of these days.
Sometimes I forget that this place is full of 20 year olds.
Star Wars means different things to different people. Consequences of being such a long running series with so many different types of stories.
I think it has more to do with execution. Many people who don't care for the prequels love the Clone Wars, because it takes those Jedi Order shenanigans and executes on them much more effectively than the prequels ever did.
Whereas TLJ executes on what it's trying to do much more effectively, even if what it was trying to do wasn't what some people want out of Star Wars. Which is fair.
I rewatced RotS last week... It is a truly poor movie in practically every respect except for John Williams' score. The acting and dialogue especially is gobsmackingly awful. The effects were bad at the time and have dated even worse now. Any issue people have with The Last Jedi is a thousand times worse in RotS. Like it boggles my mind people could like RotS more, other than in an ironic way for its unintentional comedy.
I can agree to that.
More like mid-20's.
Full disclosure I'm a writter with a decent amount of experience in film, who is design lead on an upcoming indie title. I love breaking systems down and
They're probably a more representative sample of the average person than Era is, sadly.
I don't believe this is true at all... unless we've ever had a large enough poll or something?
Or, hear me out, it happens when it is easily to manipulate. Boaty McBoatface, the "Hitler did nothing wrong" titling of Mountain Dew.
In a thread full of bad takes, you win. I'll send you blankets and some hot chocolate. 😂
People like the direction more and the overall story along with the tone.
Some people can't get on board with where TLJ went nor are they interested in the characters.
ROTS is bombastic and TLJ is quiet.
We have. We're both wrong.
The majority are in their 20's or at least based on this poll.
Demographics Era: How old are you? (Poll reset and updated)
Just out of curiosity. I'm assuming most are 30+. I would have created more options, but this was the limit the poll would allow me. EDIT: Poll updated by The Woods. Thanks!
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On a curve and no one was really gushing about it. Als feelings were boosted by it finishing the trilogy and putting us out of our misery
There are are a larger amount of people over 30, as I thought.People like the direction more and the overall story along with the tone.
Some people can't get on board with where TLJ went nor are they interested in the characters.
ROTS is bombastic and TLJ is quiet.
We have. We're both wrong.
The majority are in their 20's or at least based on this poll.
Demographics Era: How old are you? (Poll reset and updated)
Just out of curiosity. I'm assuming most are 30+. I would have created more options, but this was the limit the poll would allow me. EDIT: Poll updated by The Woods. Thanks!
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I remember at the time on the internet a lot of people were gushing it was the best since Empire or better
Not really. I like both movies, but RotS is a funner movie to me and quite frankly has way more going for it than TLJ, flaws and all.
You know maybe that could be a reasoning behind why Resetera is more harsh. I've noticed fans in their 20's tend to like the PT more than fans in their 30's. Hmmmm......
People who grew up with the PT no doubt have more love for it. I would have liked it far more had I been younger.
If live action Grievous had an iota of what made his first appearance so amazing, I might agree. Alas.
Say what you will about Luke in TLJ, but at least he wasn't turned into a total chump.
High-key, I think Luke is worse than a chump. He's a coward. Good riddance to that loser. He peaked at 23.
Does TLJ have a scene equivalent to when Padme and Anakin were comparing comparing their love for each other? No? Then TLJ is a better movie by default.
See, this sounds like you watched the OT first. I didn't and those people that I'm talking about didn't either.
The first Skywalker that I knew is Anakin Skywalker not Luke Skywalker.
If you want to listen to Lucas, you should watch the PT then OT.
For sure but that doesn't mean Luke isn't a cowardly loser.
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I was three years old when I first watched the OT and The Phantom Menace in pretty close proximity to each other.
People like the direction more and the overall story along with the tone.
Some people can't get on board with where TLJ went nor are they interested in the characters.
ROTS is bombastic and TLJ is quiet.
We have. We're both wrong.
The majority are in their 20's or at least based on this poll.
Demographics Era: How old are you? (Poll reset and updated)
Just out of curiosity. I'm assuming most are 30+. I would have created more options, but this was the limit the poll would allow me. EDIT: Poll updated by The Woods. Thanks!
Now shows that the majority are over 20s FYI
Fair enough. I just happened to like Mark Hamill being able to stretch his acting legs as a broke down piece of shit.
And by the by, for being a glorified toy, I like Grevious as well.