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Rumour: Ninja Gaiden Sigma Trilogy listed for both PS4 and Switch at largest Hong Kong game publisher / distributor
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Really tired of this "just be greatful" attitude with ports that's been popping up lately. Unless they're going to pay me to buy this collection I'm absolutely going to call them out when they try to sell a low quality product.
I gotta be honest I really did not like the added content that was added to the Sigma games. Thought they just slowed the game down. I guess I see the appeal for some people who haven't tried Sigma versions yet. I just wouldnt recommend this to be someone's first experience on Xbox with these games.
God I hope Phil didnt burn that bridge. We need a NG4 already.
Sigma, huh? I expected that but I guess I was hoping they would listen to all of the constant feedback. I am so desperate for Ninja Gaiden on Steam (no, Yaiba does not count) that I almost bought the Samurai Jack game once I saw footage of it. I would probably get this immediately even if they are such massive downgrades.
I wonder if Microsoft owns chunks of base Ninja Gaiden II or something, similar to a Bayonetta 2 kind of deal.
This ironically sells me on an Xbox for BC harder than anything Microsoft has done themselves.
I wonder if Microsoft owns chunks of base Ninja Gaiden II or something, similar to a Bayonetta 2 kind of deal.
I always expected the series to return. I was never worried about that. I was worried that we would get drastically, drastically worse versions of two of my favorite games of all time. Sure they are still good, but they are nowhere near ideal and it's clear how the majority feels here.
This ironically sells me on an Xbox for BC harder than anything Microsoft has done themselves.
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NG Black and NG Sigma is mostly gore level and some difficulty changes.
NG2 and NG 2 Sigma though.....it's almost like a different game. Not just gore changes, the entire level structure and progression is changed as well as less enemies per scenes. it ran at a higher resolution and has more characters and gameplay content than regular NG2 though.
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maybe there's really something preventing them from porting the xbox versions of 1 and 2 to other platforms.
Its elitist to want to play the superior versions of the games? This isn't free, they are asking money for this. Disappointment is elitism.
The Sigma versions are good games not great.
This is one of those games that I want to play mostly due to word-of-mouth. Looking at videos my impression is that the camera is absolute dogshit but I've seen a lot of people saying it has the best combat ever so I guess I'll see it for myself.
Must be, it's like for the last 15 years no one has touched the original versions of NG 1 and 2 with a ten foot pole (excluding the XB1 BC). What gives?
The (conspiracy) theory is that Sigma versions are the ones that current head of Team Ninja, Yosuke Hayashi, directed so because of that that's the versions they like to push.
I already have the trilogy on my X. It's a shame if it's Sigma, but I might buy it on sale someday. Unless there's a really cool steelbook, then I won't know what to do with myself. Ninja Gaiden Black is one of my favorite games of all time, so it sucks that it isn't that version.
I would've made it a duology instead lmao
I think it's just newer = better in their minds, so the old versions won't be ported.
I think it's just newer = better in their minds, so the old versions won't be ported.
We don't even know what kind of collection this is going to be (if it's really happening).
Whenever someone brings up Ninja Gaiden Black there are always people asking what is different since most people only played the Sigma versions.
The 2 Sigma games are stil critical acclaimed games people loved. The improved version of 3 is also a decent game that fixed a lot of problems.
If they bring that back as a collection it not only would reach a new generation of gamers but also increases the chances of Ninja Gaiden 4. I think that's reason for a celebration
More likely, Black and vanilla 2 are still MS exclusives and can't be ported anywhere outside Xbox. Sigma can.
Also, Sigma 3 doesn't even exist, they must be talking about Razor's Edge.
Also, not interested in rebuying these games if it's the Sigma version. I already have Sigma 1 on PS3 and Sigma 2 is a sad joke.
Camera is dogshit, but the combat is well done in NGBlack and NG2.
NG3 is just trash.
If it's the RE edition, then I'm not that upset about it. RE was pretty good not gonna lie. Obviously pales in comparison to 1 and 2 but it fixed a lot of stuff and was a fun game, so wouldn't at all call it trash
I could swear the Vita version of Sigma still has the gore. If I am remembering correctly and this is based on that then it should be back.
I could see this being true. Didnt Team Ninja and Itagaki have a messy break up? I remember Itagaki also saying Sigma wasn't good.
Hayashi also directed Ninja Gaiden 3 which is a terrible game, that was turned into an okay game with Razor's Edge.
Yeah, it's been a while but I don't remember gore being cut in Sigma 1. Sigma 2 is a different story though.
The first Sigma had some sections removed (that platform puzzle comes to mind, but there were some other sections), more save points if I remember correctly, easier boss enemies. "Better visuals", but with a lot of 2007-era bloom so hasn't aged that well. Also, I don't remember those ogre enemies in the pyramid level, I think they were exclusive to the PS3 version. Those were also OP'd compared to the other enemies.
The exclusive Rachel levels were horrible, and unbalanced etc.
Overall quite a few changes, but not all of them were for the better!
ITAGAKI Stole the code and destroyed the Hard Disk with a Katana while wearing Sun Glasses.
Sigma 1 actually has tons of changes. It added a early overpowered weapon that kinda breaks the game, changed some of the bosses and enemies patterns, changed the visuals some times for the better others for the worse, added a completely needless side character section that just serves to worsen the experience, added tons of load times that weren't in the original version (maybe this release will fix that), and other stuff I'm forgetting right now.
I wonder if there was some actual exclusivity contract in place, I could totally see that happening through Itagaki but to my knowledge there's never been actual definite proof of that?
I don't even think Hayashi is a bad director or anything like that, I'm might not been a fan of his work on Ninja Gaiden but he did co-directed Nioh which is a great game.
Smaller hub area, Rachel sections that break the pacing, puzzle room areas that changed up the flow were replaced with bad combat rooms where you fight just too many of the same single enemy type over and over again, more loading spots (some in the middle of combat), stuff like that.
3 Razor's Edge is mostly fine, save a t-rex battle or two. Not as good as Sigma 1 or Sigma 2, but still fun enough.
He migh not be a bad director, but I dont think he understands Ninja Gaiden. The changes he made in the Sigma games just hindered them imo. I'm still baffled by launch NG3.
Hopefully someone else takes over for NG4.
From the rumors I read, seems like the Nioh producer/director will work on NG4.
One interesting thing about these being the Sigma versions is they might port over the Vita content. Almost none of those are interesting additions, but I will probably play through the first game especially a dozen times in this new collection so I am down for more costumes to mix it up. It is still unfortunate though. Sigma 1 is just as major of a downgrade as Sonic Adventure DX was, but Sigma 2 is just on a whole new level of weird terribleness.
Less people played Sigma 1 compared to the Xbox releases, so I guess for many it will be kind of a new experience. If there is an Xbox version I would love to see a Digital Foundry look on every version on the same hardware.
Less people played Sigma 1 compared to the Xbox releases, so I guess for many it will be kind of a new experience. If there is an Xbox version I would love to see a Digital Foundry look on every version on the same hardware.
Well Hayashi only directed the first Nioh along with Yasuda who then went on to direct and produce Nioh 2.
This gives me hope that Hayashi will be taking a backseat for NG4. I just hope they dont try and bring elements from Nioh to Ninja Gaiden. My Soul will leave my body if NG4 has loot.
Don't disagree with you there, and yeah I also hope a potential NG4 is helmed by someone else. Also, as much as I love how relentless NG2 can be, I kinda wish they would return to interesting mix of almost Zelda-like puzzle solving and character action that was the OG/Black, personally I found that made it stand out in a cool way.
I wouldn't use the word terrible. They're just quite different. These youtube videos go into details.
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NG Black is the overall better game and one of the best games ever, but NG2 has the best combat in gaming.
I'd love to see a game with NG2 combat with NG Black level design. Would probably be my favourite game ever.
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