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Yeah figured. However outside the PZH 2000, not much Germany is providing would be useful. If they also include patriots, then Ukraine would just have to redeploy others who do give permission. Ammo would have plausible deniability due to multiple sources so that wouldn't be an issue.German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has spoken out against Ukraine using weapons provided by Western allies to strike Russia.
Scholz continues to be as spineless and as inoffensive to Russia as his position will allow.
I agree with this Italian fellow. Allies should give Ukraine weapons of peace, not war. After all, war is bad. And what single weapon has contributed more to global peace than nukes?Italy opposes allowing Ukraine to attack Russia with Western-supplied weapons
The Italian government has objected to NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, who urged the allies to lift restrictions on the use of weapons provided to Ukraine against targets in Russia. Source: Italian news agency Ansa, as reported by European Pravda Details: Matteo Salvini, Italy's Deputy...www.yahoo.com
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has spoken out against Ukraine using weapons provided by Western allies to strike Russia.
Scholz continues to be as spineless and as inoffensive to Russia as his position will allow.
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has spoken out against Ukraine using weapons provided by Western allies to strike Russia.
Scholz continues to be as spineless and as inoffensive to Russia as his position will allow.
You think this couldn't be worse? In the early days people, especially with ties to Eastern Europe and the Baltics, were worried about Kiev falling and this turning into WW3 as Russian troops marched into the rest of Europe.
And that's still the fear if Ukraine were still to lose, hence why people are asking for things such as Ukraine being allowed to strike targets within Russia using weapons supplied by the west. Der Spiegel reported just today that representatives of the Baltic states told German government representatives that they'll send their troops into Ukraine if Russia were to have a strategic breakthrough. These countries are scared shitless that if Ukraine falls they'll be next.
I'm from the region, I get it. I also get why these Western European nations are a bit cagier: if this escalates past the point of conventional weapons, even if Ukraine wins, the aftermath will be horrific for everyone on the continent.
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor opposes using Western weapons to strike Russia
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has spoken out against Ukraine using weapons provided by Western allies to strike Russia.
Scholz continues to be as spineless and as inoffensive to Russia as his position will allow.
Hopefully not. It would be pretty bad PR, its allies would notice and I'm not so sure that the Ukrainian public would be in favour of meatgrinder assaults even if they are prisoners. After all, if they start using such tactics some may fear that they wil eventually do the same with the mobilized, which would be terrible for morale and not all that effective either.
And the reality is that men who can fight, whether volunteers, conscripted, or released from prison to do so, are in short supply in Ukraine and they cannot afford to throw them away in the same way that Russia does.
He won't stop poking until he finds steel. It seems the Baltics are aware of this, so hopefully the rest of NATO backs them and shuts down Putin's appetite for escalation beyond Ukraine. If they do the shitty Sullivan style half measures, or naive "resets" like Obama, then it will only embolden him further and invite disaster.
This was my stance when they first said it, and it turned out to be a nothing statement after all. Now it's been weeks and there has yet to be a Storm Shadow strike in Russia. It is extremely clear that the restrictions are still in place
Key Takeaways:
- Russian forces are reportedly concentrating forces of unspecified size in western Belgorod Oblast near the border with Ukraine, likely to fix and draw Ukrainian forces to the area and prepare for offensive operations that aim to expand the Russian foothold in the international border area in northeastern Ukraine.
- Western officials continue to publicly debate Ukraine's right to use Western-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia amid Russian efforts to persuade the West to continue its self-imposed limitations and divide the NATO alliance.
- Russia's defense industrial base (DIB) will reportedly manufacture and refurbish three times as many artillery shells as the West will produce in 2024, although Russian shells reportedly suffer from quality-control issues and Ukrainian artillery is reportedly more precise than Russian artillery.
- Kremlin officials continue to indicate that Russia is not interested in meaningful negotiations with Ukraine and promote Kremlin information operations that aim to push the West to make concessions on Ukraine's sovereign territory and people.
- Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Svatove, Avdiivka, and Donetsk City.
- Former Wagner Group fighters reportedly continue to form new units under Rosgvardia and Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz.
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