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Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man has better characterization than MCU Spider Man
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Not in any way, shape, or form, at all. Raimi's Spider-Man has one character trait, MCU's is an actual person.
I'm beginning to think the Raimi threads are some kind of coordinated stunt at this point.
1. They didn't suck
2. JK Simmons is the best thing in all three Raimi films and they were never going to do better than that casting
3. Marvel Studios brought him back, not Disney
I'm beginning to think the Raimi threads are some kind of coordinated stunt at this point.
1. They didn't suck
2. JK Simmons is the best thing in all three Raimi films and they were never going to do better than that casting
3. Marvel Studios brought him back, not Disney
No, my thread wasn't about the exact same thing. It was a completely different topic that unfortunately devolved into this crap. But you can keep ignoring what I've been saying all along and just lump my thread in with every blatant pro-Raimi thread that's been posted since FFH. That's cool too.
You mean MCU right because nothing is allowed to touch the precious MCU!
Well MCU Spider-Man doesn't really even have characterization, so the Sam Raimi movies win by default in this regard.
Nope, Holland is the best Peter Parker and Spider-Man, hands down.
Well, that's up to you. But you're not exactly playing fair here. Just saying.
It's tiny_bench_hop.gif vs mannequin_swing.gif
I also hate on doaflip.gif. Like dude your Spider-Man, you should go up 10ft in the air with your ankle. That was just in shape Tom doing a flip.
I also hate on doaflip.gif. Like dude your Spider-Man, you should go up 10ft in the air with your ankle. That was just in shape Tom doing a flip.
I have to disagree OP. I think that some elements of Peter's life are different than the Raimi films by necessity since MCU Spider-man is connected to a broader universe and the character has to be distinct from its previous iterations (Tobey and Andrew). Different doesn't mean worse. MCU Spider-man had a close relationship with Tony Stark, it would make zero sense to have Tony's protege have money issues.
If you're attached to that particular element of Peter's life I can see why you would believe that the Raimi films did it better and that's ok, I really like them too. However, opening yourself up to a different interpretation of the character that has some different life experiences but still retains the emotional core of "what kind of effect does being a superhero have to a regular kid/person" could only be a good thing.
If you're attached to that particular element of Peter's life I can see why you would believe that the Raimi films did it better and that's ok, I really like them too. However, opening yourself up to a different interpretation of the character that has some different life experiences but still retains the emotional core of "what kind of effect does being a superhero have to a regular kid/person" could only be a good thing.
First off, the word you wanna use is "different," not "better." And secondly:
Raimi's version is only one version. Just because he made Pete be broke all the time doesn't mean it's the best. It was great at the time, and this isn't me saying the movies are bad or anything (3 not withstanding), but bad luck/shit life doesn't define him.
If you have only read Ultimate Spider-Man, yeah, you're right.
Raimi's versions clearly took that particular story (particularly the first 5 issues) and recreated them very well.
But for Spider-Man as a whole? Wouldn't go thst far.
Raimi's versions clearly took that particular story (particularly the first 5 issues) and recreated them very well.
But for Spider-Man as a whole? Wouldn't go thst far.
Okay. I turned 39 this year. I've been an Spider-Man fan since I was 10 years old. I survived the Clone Saga. I enjoyed the animated series as a kid. I loved the Raimi movies as they came out. I even defended Topher Grace as Venom as I saw him as an "Anti-Peter" instead of the comic version.
But times change, and so must we. You can absolutely like the Raimi versions better. Or you can see them as "the best they could do back then"
You can hate the MCU Spider-Man for glossing over Uncle Ben and focusing less on the Friendly Neighborhood part.
But we shouldn't be doing this every week.
The Raimi movies are heralded as the first super hero movies to be willing to take the silly with the serious since Batman and Superman before them.
And they are decent flicks no doubt. But they are not the end all be all of super hero flicks.
The MCU Spidey movies are part of a large story and can give them more weight and strength. But they aren't the end all be all of superhero flcks.
Let's just all be happy that they aren't Amazing Spider-Man 2 and join hands in that fact.
But times change, and so must we. You can absolutely like the Raimi versions better. Or you can see them as "the best they could do back then"
You can hate the MCU Spider-Man for glossing over Uncle Ben and focusing less on the Friendly Neighborhood part.
But we shouldn't be doing this every week.
The Raimi movies are heralded as the first super hero movies to be willing to take the silly with the serious since Batman and Superman before them.
And they are decent flicks no doubt. But they are not the end all be all of super hero flicks.
The MCU Spidey movies are part of a large story and can give them more weight and strength. But they aren't the end all be all of superhero flcks.
Let's just all be happy that they aren't Amazing Spider-Man 2 and join hands in that fact.
Can there be a rule against making Spiderman 2 threads?
Or should I make a Spiderman 2 thread tomorrow?
Or should I make a Spiderman 2 thread tomorrow?
First, this isn't a Spider-Man 2 thread. Second, people shouldn't be allowed to discuss the movie anymore? I wonder if you'd be saying the same thing if people were making FFH threads constantly.
Lol this. Revoke thread privileges for a week for people that do this please.
Just how many threads do you need? Do you not realize you can contribute to all the existing threads? Every possible thought needs to be its own thread or what?
By the way, I haven't seen FFH.
That little snide remark definitely doesn't reinforce the notion that you made your thread earlier today in good faith though.
Homecoming did what Raimi couldn't and broke a billion (and is the better spiderman)
Take the L Raimi fans.
Gotta have a Doc Ock film to set up Superior Spider-man. Run with SpOck for a trilogy, bring back Peter on the next Endgame.
The complaints are about people (willfully) not using the search feature.
At least try to be less outwardly disingenuous.
When I made my thread, I wasn't even aware or cared that there was some sort of war going on between MCU stans and Raimi stans. I don't go on the off-topic side of this forum much. I literally just happened to rewatch the Raimi films last week and wanted to share my thoughts on the second film in particular. If I had known or done a search and found out what has been happening, I probably wouldn't have bothered posting it, so that falls squarely on me, I guess.
I have nothing against the MCU films. I watched FFH and greatly enjoyed it. The reason I made that snide remark is because of how MCU fans have been acting in my thread and in this one. Considering I wanted to have a genuine discussion about Spider-Man 2 earlier today and my thread ended up being a shitshow and the fact that the intent of my thread was assumed to be no different than other pro-Raimi threads (even though I clearly explained the intent of my thread a million times both here and in my thread), I think I have a right to be a little upset. I take no sides in this silly debate. I'm just a little flabbergasted by how things turned out. But I do realize that not everybody bothers to read OPs.
Exactly this. Not a good outlook for Era today in my eyes. And I normally love this community.
Stop caring about stupid shit maybe. Let the mods handle it or simply don't post if the existence of a few similar threads bothers you so much.
All these Raimi Spider-Man threads make an excellent case for adding a filter option to the ignore thread feature to automatically block them as they come up.
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