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Sanders Campaign Roiled by Conflicts Between Organizers, Management over Wages
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Again, I think it's news worthy and I side with the workers 100 percent.
It's the framing I have an issue with .
Is this about the workers or is it a hit piece?
Weaver's there? Wasn't he partially responsible for the toxic atmosphere in the '16 campaign?
Workers..... Mainstream workers politician can't pay his workers a decent wage.
That is a horrible analogy. Why not just agree that his field workers need to make 15$ an hour and be done with it? Instead of getting defensive because people are attacking or coming down on Bernie.
It's a small issue, the workers called out the campaign, it gets a little traction and the salary folks get a buck or two more and it's all good
Again, if that's the story then the focus on one politician instead of the systemic injustice is odd framing
It's not just one politician, it's the one politician who leads this campaign. Bernie's not involved elsewhere on Kamala Harris campaign while this was going on, he's the one who calls the shots. I dislike the argument that issues with Bernie's campaign must only be reported as systemic, as though he and his campaign are above having their own internal problems dissected in the media.
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How much to do you think Warren's campaign manager makes?
And why don't you think there's an issue with people who help the elderly not getting paid?
I mean, I can sort of see accepting it if there is really no other option, but come on, those campaigns can pay them, they have a ton of money.
I really don't get why you'd think any of that is a desirable situation.
p.s.
How is "people should be able to volunteer if they want" is any different than "people should be able to work for free if they want"?
So am I, but I also live in California so it's easy for me to round up from $12 to $15. Neither of those wages are very livable for most of CA.
$3 an hour makes a difference and it has an even bigger impact in most states with a minimum wage hovering around $8.
Seems like the real issue is excessive overtime, but I guess if you're gonna work that much you should get paid accordingly.
Why can't it be boh.
The Post can't write a hit piece about you not living up to your ideals, if you live up to your ideals.
They do deserve to get paid that. I was directing my post at the people who aren't simply saying that his field organizers are right, but instead are trying to make it out as if Sanders' whole argument is fictitious.
I worded it poorly. I should've edited my post.
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It comes off like you aren't because you're going after the candidate that's most actively promoted and provided a $15 minimum wage.
His salaried workers haven't been fairly compensated, but between first advocating unionization and establishing a $15 minimum wage for his hourly workers, he's actively advanced the cause more than any other candidate.
He needs to address the issue of his salaried field organizers full stop, but let's not pretend like he hasn't walked this necessary walk more than anybody else.
None of the campaigns other than Bernie's campaign have contracts with their unions yet as far as I know. Warren, Castro and Swalwell are the ones that I know are unionizing. Biden, Harris, Buttigieg, Booker and O'Rourke campaign staffs haven't begun to unionize yet.
Agreed on the former, but the latter remains to be seen.
How is the systemic injustice being carried out here? Who are the actors that are directly responsible?
How? He's completely avoided getting in the middle of this as far as we can tell. He's not lifting a finger for the unions here.
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Except we can see it right now.
Unless you're intentionally sticking your head in the sand for questionable reasons.
Salaried wages not getting overtime pay at all is not how salaried wages should work, even though that's how they typically do work.
That was about sexual harassment, and Bernie was a no-show for that, as well. It took the staff personally writing a letter directly for him to notice it, and was long after '16.
The man can barely keep his fucking campaign in order. How is he supposed to be an effective president? I'd still vote for him over Trump, but then, I'd vote for a potted plant over that man...
I just looked it up, he had the same issue back then (albeit with interns)
Actually they can.
I'm with the workers here but let's not pretend WaPo has some amazing editorial standards when it comes to Bernie.
"Bernie Sanders is the only person allowed to cross the amazon strike picket lines because he's fighting for worker's rights and he's ALSO allowed to only pay his workers less than $13/h despite arguing for $15/h because he's fighting for worker's rights"
admittedly this thread has far more people calling this out than I expected, which pleases me
admittedly this thread has far more people calling this out than I expected, which pleases me
This is why you support candidates not because you believe them to always do the right thing, but because you believe them to be beholden to our interests and forced to do the right thing on our pushback, and not the pushback of big money corporate interests.
I always take this kind of news with a g win of salt. They're unionized aren't they? So disputes by nature will happen when workers are unsatisfied. But being as it's a campaign, it'll be sensationalized that the campaign is 'roiled' in conflict. Especially easy to get picked up by publications owned by certain individuals who might have feelings towards said campaign.
So... negotiations are ongoing, and the union hasn't sent their newest proposal after rejecting their employer's previous proposal?
ok? "roiled by conflicts" seems a little bit editorialized
