Then she should have told the kids that huh
I dont think the GND has a chance in hell of passing but maybe she should have actually outlined who the problem is
Tough to say what she might have said given that edited video...
Then she should have told the kids that huh
I dont think the GND has a chance in hell of passing but maybe she should have actually outlined who the problem is
Are you serious? Without a second thought. Tax the rich more and go for it, it's not like it's technologically impossible.Let's be honest... who here would back a government plan that would ban consumption of gasoline for cars and limit air travel? Oh and the corresponding lifestyle changes? In the next 12-15 years.
That doesn't change my general point, which I thought came across fairly clearly. These kids are being scared shitless and then used by the adults around them. It borders on child abuse, in my opinion.This is technically correct but the obvious connotation of the phrase is that more fear is being generated than the reality of the situation poses, which is not the case here.
Have you considered that these kids are rightfully afraid for their future and wanted to do this as well?
Yup, she doesn't look great here but who knows if additional context may change that. They should release the unedited video.Let's be real... That video is pretty tightly edited to make Feinstein look as bad as possible.
What is reasonable conversation in this matter?I'm not really sure why these types of arguments have to become tribalistic when there hasn't been any rejection of what either of the group of people are saying, the issue in this case is being simplified into "a particular bill" instead of a set of policies, as though the options are either "support the green new deal" or "kill the planet." There is room for discussion and debate here about the specifics, but again, this was a gotcha video full of the older kid cutting off Feinstein and Feinstein being dismissive. I dunno why the green new bill has now become "the only way to save the earth" in the eyes of many as though it's everything in it or nothing in it. I like Cortez and I like a lot of the ideas in it but I'm still being attacked here even though I never even expressed my views, it's that type of immediate kneejerk anger that prevents any reasonable conversation from ever taking place.
Yeah both sides. Like I understand that the climate is going to be totally fucked for future generations but what about people who want to keep doing things the way that got us into this situation?Feinstein was a jerk but so were the people confronting her, both parties unwilling to actually listen to each other.
liberals who are ok with feinstein here need to understand that this kind of thing is why the left does not see you as allies
"we voted for you" as in the people of california"we voted for you"
"how old are you?
"i'm 16 I can't vote"
HAHAHAHAHA oh god...that was hilarious.
Meh, yeah how are you supposed to deal with people coming in demanding your vote on a sham bill.
Fucking exactly!This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
LOVE TOO WRITE OFF THE DEATHS OF LITERAL BILLIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE AMERICA WON'T BE AS AFFECTEDNot really a fan of these kids being taught that their world will be destroyed in their lifetimes. North America won't be nearly as affected as other areas of the world.
This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
Not really a fan of these kids being taught that their world will be destroyed in their lifetimes. North America won't be nearly as affected as other areas of the world.
WHO GIVES A SHIT DUDEThis is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
lmfao, Feinstein did a great job making herself look bad. Way to ignore why anyone in here is upset at all. WHO CARES ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT!??? DECORUM!!!!!!!!!This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
I mean again, I don't understand why the internet response to "let's talk it out" has to be lol boogie both sides, choose or die. This was a clear hitjob from a group with an agenda using kids as props to get Web Hits by refusing to actually talk about anything and just keep spouting their lines. To answer the question in the thread, was Feinstein being snide? Uh yeah. Did the people who made the video actually wanna talk about policy? Nah.Yeah both sides. Like I understand that the climate is going to be totally fucked for future generations but what about people who want to keep doing things the way that got us into this situation?
Thankfully she saved herself when she reminded the children of how many million votes she won(?)This is a planned ambush to make Feinstein look bad. The group that orchestrated it wanted to make a video where pure-of-heart kids humbly ask Feinstein for help on climate change, and then the adults who planned the ambush get to act the part of spontaneously shocked teachers and parents while they spout obviously planned platitudes into the camera.
I hate these kinds of things, it insults my intelligence like I don't know what's really going on. I can understand Feinstein's frustration. These ambush groups are everywhere in D.C. and probably the only reason Feinstein stopped to speak to this group at all was because the group used kids as props and it would have looked even worse for Feinstein to totally ignore them.
Her problem is that McConnell is about to make them vote on a sham resolution for the GND. There is no actual bill in the Senate, just a craven Republican ploy.So ambush aside, what's her problem with the GND? I haven't really been following the actual policy and information on it.
Like sure I could vibe with the fact that it was edited especially bad but its not like Feinstein is without issues and some of these responses are pretty scary.i hate it when i'm ambushed by someone trying to make me look bad by asking me to do the impossible (explain something and not be rude toward children), and thus am forced to be snide and dismissive to make myself look good
This makes it even sadder because the people who will be most affected by climate change can't even voice their opinions outside of some kind of strike action."we voted for you"
"how old are you?
"i'm 16 I can't vote"
HAHAHAHAHA oh god...that was hilarious.
she is rich and powerful and has been such for almost her entire adult life
that so little has been done to ameliorate the effects of climate change and so much has been done to worsen them is a stain on her moral character and basic competency
I mean again, I don't understand why the internet response to "let's talk it out" has to be lol boogie both sides, choose or die. This was a clear hitjob from a group with an agenda using kids as props to get Web Hits by refusing to actually talk about anything and just keep spouting their lines. To answer the question in the thread, was Feinstein being snide? Uh yeah. Did the people who made the video actually wanna talk about policy? Nah.
This is a bad take. I don't like Feinstein at all and think she does not come across well in this video either.liberals who are ok with feinstein here need to understand that this kind of thing is why the left does not see you as allies
This is a divide that involves the deaths of literal hundreds of millions at the least, I think it's okay to have an ideological line here.This is a bad take. I don't like Feinstein at all and think she does not come across well in this video either.
But this idea that some Democrats have of people "not being left enough" to be considered part of the left is really stupid and self-harming to the entire Democratic party. There is no reason to create a divide when currently the party has to be united to topple the opposition. Not everyone "on this side" feels the same way about every issue. But your view on things is no more justified that someone's view who might actually like Feinstein. And it's extremely presumptuous for you to assume you speak for the entire left with such a statement.
Do you have less than a hundred posts? Seems not.how about you stand on your square and say what you mean? stop doing subliminals.
He means the left as in leftists as in socialists, communists, etc.This is a bad take. I don't like Feinstein at all and think she does not come across well in this video either.
But this idea that some Democrats have of people "not being left enough" to be considered part of the left is really stupid and self-harming to the entire Democratic party. There is no reason to create a divide when currently the party has to be united to topple the opposition. Not everyone "on this side" feels the same way about every issue. But your view on things is no more justified that someone's view who might actually like Feinstein. And it's extremely presumptuous for you to assume you speak for the entire left with such a statement.
I'd prefer to focus on the divide between Democrats and Republicans first (which renders any sort of climate change deal moot anyways because the right won't pass it) before trying to create or address a division in the left.This is a divide that involves the deaths of literal hundreds of millions at the least, I think it's okay to have an ideological line here.
So a party defined by nothing except opposition to the other party? Where do I join! And if you think leftists want to claim the Dems, you don't know very much about leftists. And of course views are more justified than other views. Climate change should be the #1 issue for Dems.This is a bad take. I don't like Feinstein at all and think she does not come across well in this video either.
But this idea that some Democrats have of people "not being left enough" to be considered part of the left is really stupid and self-harming to the entire Democratic party. There is no reason to create a divide when currently the party has to be united to topple the opposition. Not everyone "on this side" feels the same way about every issue. But your view on things is no more justified that someone's view who might actually like Feinstein. And it's extremely presumptuous for you to assume you speak for the entire left with such a statement.