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Shenmue I & II Remaster (8/21/2018; PC/PS4/XB1 - $29.99)
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Only Shenmue 2 is in 16:9.
This is the YT trailer on SEGA Official Channel btw
i was a total moron during the Barber Shop QTE,
I was like WTF is wrong with me? hahahaha I must have tried 100 times never to think about the real solution then I was ahhhhhhh
I was like WTF is wrong with me? hahahaha I must have tried 100 times never to think about the real solution then I was ahhhhhhh
Not even a remaster? Just an HD port? I didn't hope for a remake but at least a remastered edition with high res models and textures...
SEGA went full cheap with this one.
I thought only cutscenes were 4:3...
So many years, but we did it!
A nice clean port with dual audio is all I ever wanted. All the original assets intact, and untouched.
My only nitpick is the new clock. It looks a bit out of place due to it's high resolution.
An option to toggle between the new UI and the original would be a great little bonus.
A nice clean port with dual audio is all I ever wanted. All the original assets intact, and untouched.
My only nitpick is the new clock. It looks a bit out of place due to it's high resolution.
An option to toggle between the new UI and the original would be a great little bonus.
LOL digital foundry said they were technically superior? They totally missed the boat.
Shenmue II on the XBox is missing hundreds of textures and lots of the geometry is changed. The only major improvements are that the crowd draw distance is further, the sun flare is made up of more polygons, and the framerate dips less.
examples:
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Texture for sign on the door is missing
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Entire gate is missing
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Texture is rotated incorrectly
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Object geometry is placed incorrectly
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
The geometry of the roof is clipping through the wall on the Xbox version
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
The geometry for the back wall of the shack is incorrectly placed behind the brick wall, making it invisible
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Many of the signs in the sky have been removed
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Likely owing to the way the DC handles transparency (it uses a painter's algorithm) virtually all transparent objects are now opaque in the Xbox version
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Another example of transparency missing
And so forth. The Xbox version has these types of cuts EVERYWHERE. Missing textures, missing geometry, missing transparency. Shame on DF if they missed all this. These are just a few readily available examples from Shenmue Dojo, the Xbox game is full of these changes.
Great news! I doubt the original Shenmue would hold up in today's gaming world so I'm really glad they include a modern control scheme. From a technical point of view, they should try to increase the draw distance of characters because that irritated me even back then. Other than that, I'd be fine with a resolution bump.
I wonder how these games have aged. I am happy they have been announced, but they waited this long and it seems like a minimum effort port. They should at least update the visuals...When I played the game like 14 years ago it looked great.
These games ages well but yeah, port effort looks minimum to me.
I believe the first game is also in widescreen.
They show one small clip of it in 16:9.
EDIT: Beaten.
They show one small clip of it in 16:9.
EDIT: Beaten.
Wow.... this is great news!!
now I can really wait for Shenmue 3 since I can now play the first two.
I know Shenmue 1 and 2 are great games and I almost bought a Dreamcast back in the day for them.... but....
How well will Shenmue 1 & 2 holds up in 2018? Story and characters and Music and gameplay and art direction... compared to modern games, will they feel updated?
I know the games are great but I am hesitating to jump in... can you guys please sell me on the Shenmue universe ?
now I can really wait for Shenmue 3 since I can now play the first two.
I know Shenmue 1 and 2 are great games and I almost bought a Dreamcast back in the day for them.... but....
How well will Shenmue 1 & 2 holds up in 2018? Story and characters and Music and gameplay and art direction... compared to modern games, will they feel updated?
I know the games are great but I am hesitating to jump in... can you guys please sell me on the Shenmue universe ?
Which I find a bit cynical of Sega. I mean we got Outcast which was from the same time as the original Shenmue and equally ambitious, and they at least gave it a big visual update, on what I am sure was a very limited budget. This...to my mind is shoddy. Happy it is released, but will only get it depending on the price. It should cost about £15 max...At full price? No chance
as far as I'm concerned, the story, art direction, and music in Shenmue has yet to be rivaled by modern games. The setting is still super unique, the story is till super engaging and not like what you see in other games, and the music is phenomenal.
Check this out, even mundane events like arm wrestling are given epic themes in Shenmue:
Shenmue is no joke.
No.
This is Shenmue I, from the trailer.
So only cutscene of S1 are in 4:3? I don't get why at this point, since they are all ingame... I guess ppl will mod them to 16:9 on PC anyway.
Nice to wake up at 7am to this.
I'm so, so happy to be able to play these again. It'll also be the first time ill get to finish the second game.
I'm not overly concerned about it being a straight port. As long as the frame rate is stable and the controls updated i'm happy.
I'm so, so happy to be able to play these again. It'll also be the first time ill get to finish the second game.
I'm not overly concerned about it being a straight port. As long as the frame rate is stable and the controls updated i'm happy.
No hecking way this will be released in full price. Cant imagine the backlash
No, Shenmue has arguably better QTE than just about any game before or after. For one, most QTEs are branching, so if you fail them, you don't start over, but rather the sequence changes and you have to live with the consequences. As such, there are actually not that many QTEs you can outright fail in the game, and those are usually the ones very related to key events. And even then, the timing for the QTEs is great -- Yu Suzuki was known for how great his arcade games feel, and he approached QTE the same way, with huge arcade style prompts that tend to match the on-screen action and large input windows with good visual and audio feedback to let you know you did the input correctly.
Also, Shenmue II subverts QTE is an honestly genius way.
Actually, just read this post I wrote a few pages back:
if i was more emotional i'd cry. this looks like the best reissue this year by far. i just replayed the series last year so the games are still fresh in my mind but who cares. it'll be good to knock down the trophies for them. never finished the first game in japanese, so this will be the best opportunity as well. shenmue will never die, you guys better appreciate.
just don't mess up the port and we're good.
just don't mess up the port and we're good.
Well, first thing I'll do is force or inject some form of AO in the games ASAP.
Other than that, cool !
Other than that, cool !
I hope so. Never know with Sega. They have waited this long to re-release this after such long term demand, and it seems like a port a couple of guys could have done in a month.
Are you daft? these are minor alteration a port version got. Go see that shit again without your hilarious platform bias googles mode on. The biggest reason that matters to not play it, is the translation, if any.LOL digital foundry said they were technically superior? They totally missed the boat.
Shenmue II on the XBox is missing hundreds of textures and lots of the geometry is changed. The only major improvements are that the crowd draw distance is further, the sun flare is made up of more polygons, and the framerate dips less.
examples:
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Texture for sign on the door is missing
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Entire gate is missing
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Texture is rotated incorrectly
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Object geometry is placed incorrectly
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
The geometry of the roof is clipping through the wall on the Xbox version
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
The geometry for the back wall of the shack is incorrectly placed behind the brick wall, making it invisible
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Many of the signs in the sky have been removed
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Likely owing to the way the DC handles transparency (it uses a painter's algorithm) virtually all transparent objects are now opaque in the Xbox version
Dreamcast:
Xbox:
Another example of transparency missing
And so forth. The Xbox version has these types of cuts EVERYWHERE. Missing textures, missing geometry, missing transparency. Shame on DF if they missed all this. These are just a few readily available examples from Shenmue Dojo, the Xbox game is full of these changes.
When this HDmake was confirmed for PC&Xbone just minutes after your grinned at the end of the trailer, did you punch the table and cited Muppet345?
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It's not a straight port, since you can select voices in english and japanese, and that's not nearly as simple as it sounds. There is a mod for the Dreamcast version of Shenmue I that inserts JPN audio and keeps English subtitles that reveals how this isn't a painless process. The mod breaks in several instances, because the audio has hooks that the game engine uses to move the mouths for the characters. If you drop the JPN audio in the US version of Shenmue, lots of animations break, and sometimes the opposite happens, where the mouth animation dictates the speed which the audio plays, so some audio clips will play like 2 to 3 times too fast.
Working in the JPN audio is actually a significant change which means, no, this isn't a straight port.
Says HD in the title and OP. Will be most likely be an effort similiar to Jet Set Radio HD (higher render res, new control scheme, 16:9, small bonus additions)
Hello yeah! Picking up this collection on day zero. I have always wanted to experience the series but never had the Dreamcast growing up.
...the conversation was about which platform is superior. I played the Xbox version originally. no "bias goggles" on (what a stupid term, btw). The DC version objectively is superior. The DC version uses the superior JPN dub with english subtitles. I'd say the translation in the Xbox version is actually fucking awful.
Has anyone mentioned price?
I hope they go the Yakuza route and make special editions of it (steelbook, artbook set, etc). Imagine collectors buying 2 or 3 different variations based on retailer exclusivity, like with movie releases?
I hope they go the Yakuza route and make special editions of it (steelbook, artbook set, etc). Imagine collectors buying 2 or 3 different variations based on retailer exclusivity, like with movie releases?
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