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Shenmue I & II Remaster (8/21/2018; PC/PS4/XB1 - $29.99)
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Oh really? So I guess the Japanese are a global audience too? But then, the American global audience didn't get Japanese voices, so they're still correct.
Why would the Japanese be a global audience if the game is from Japan? That doesn't make any sense.
It says "a global audience" (people outside of Japan). People in Europe are "a global audience". It's as simple as that. And it's not like I was the only person to notice that.
That'd be kinda cool -- they could make it a thing you access from the menu, or a second function on your wrist watch :P
But emulating the VMU is definitely not a necessity. From memory, it's only really utilised when learning moves from NPCs, and even then it only shows the combo after you've done it, I *think*...info that's readily available in the move scroll menu. It's also used as a counter in one particular fight towards the end of the game but yeah...nothing substantial.
But we Europeans didn't get the Japaneve audio for Shenmue I, so that sentence is right. For the first time we are getting the Japanese audio for both games.
Obviously "global audience" means for people around the globe. Europe is not the whole globe. Again, they mean a worldwide release in dual language, so that people outside Europe and Japan can enjoy the Japanese dub.
To be fair, that was before it was known that it's shipped as "one game". Still, now it's half right, half wrong.
Anyway, while it's nice to get Japanese audio for Shenmue, it's not worth a rebuy for me since PC gamers are getting screwed over again, due to limited to Steam and probably no physical either.
Does that really constitute being screwed over? Most PC games don't get physical releases. Getting two games in a single, cheap package that have never been on PC before...sometimes you take the good with the bad.
Just because other publishers have bad practices, it doesn't mean it's ok to do the same. I get why Americans weren't into physical PC games too much since their PC gaming culture is totally different. Eventually publishers decided Europeans are the same, despite the market situation being totally different. And now we are at the point that we are. I would have no problem dropping 150€ on a physical special edition of Shenmue since I consider it to be one of the best games ever. But if it's DRM (Steam) and not even physical? No thanks, not even for 5€.
(And I played the games already, so I don't need them again. It would be more for showing support and collecting it.)
Don't know if this extra info was posted (other than $30 pricing)
The skip time is only contextual.
RedSwirl has made an accurate description of Shenmue's concept. Upvote.
Guys, I'm just genuinely curious here, is this game really going to sell well? I'm sure the only reason people will be picking it up is for nostalgic reasons. I, personally, see no reason as to why anyone who is younger would pick this up...the graphics are horrendously dated, so are the mechanics and the story arc is incomplete. I'm 22 myself and never played the originals and this doesn't entice me one bit. If anything, I'd rather play Yakuza as it seems to be in a similar vein...but you know, better.
...his point is that you can't just skip time until events happen, that you have to find an in-game distraction or else just wait around.
But that's not true at all. The "context" you speak of is that you are allowed to skip time to specific events -- precisely what he said you couldn't do.
Downvote your comment all day.
OKAY, I just now, this morning, right this minute while I'm eating my oatmeal, found out about this.
It's really happening. And it's coming to PC as well.
Holy Sailor Searching Batman, DAY FUCKING ONE PURCHASE. Not even concerned with what it costs, I am buying this the minute I can.
It's really happening. And it's coming to PC as well.
Holy Sailor Searching Batman, DAY FUCKING ONE PURCHASE. Not even concerned with what it costs, I am buying this the minute I can.
It will sell to the people who played the originals, which was in the hundreds of thousands, and perhaps those who want to play Shenmue III but start the story properly. It never hurts to have these games released. Even today there isn't much like Shenmue on the market, whether younger gamers happen to like it or not...
I had Shenmue on the Dreamcast and never got around to playing Shenmue 2. I remember being disappointed, but now it has been so long since I played that first game I barely remember it. I bought some stuff out of a machine and drove a forklift, and did martial arts (I think?). Man what a weird game. I'll probably pick this up.
I'm a purist so don't like the idea of achievements, I like stuff in Shenmue wasn't gamey and was just pointless, like collecting capsules and a random fight in the harbour when some school girls pick a fight. Getting an achievement for collecting a yellow can would take away from that random charm. If achievements were only for important scenes it might be ok. Random stuff in Shenmue is better discovered on its own, not following an achievement guideline to get everything on your first play through.
People shitting on Shenmue's graphics is weird considering it's a 20 year old game. Obviously they're going to be dated. To me though they're still some of the best graphics from that time that still hold up today in spots. It definitely has its charm and there's no way I'd consider them bad. Can't think of a better looking game in this style from 20 years ago. Looking forward to seeing the final product from this release.
As someone who has never played these before, I'd much rather play these are they're releasing as opposed to a remake
I want to play the classic games but with some modern features such as better resolution and maybe some QoL fixes. I wouldn't be that interested in a full remake
It's weird to me that so many people seem to want full remakes of any game more than a decade old
I want to play the classic games but with some modern features such as better resolution and maybe some QoL fixes. I wouldn't be that interested in a full remake
It's weird to me that so many people seem to want full remakes of any game more than a decade old
Ah. Haven't played Shemue II.
And did they reveal more details in terms of what they're doing with this remaster? Where did you hear that about the Shenmue 1 remaster?
A mod merged the threads, and in the process, killed the other OP which had a lot more info. But yes, it's been confirmed in game informer. Updating some textures, the controls, the UI, and also implementing time skip into shenmue I.
Okay I want the PS4 controller to make VMU sounds now whenever and wherever Shenmue did them.
So happy this will be reelased for all. I hope we will get a pack with all 3 games too. This has the same the same content as the DreamCast versions with updated resolutions and not the Xbox one port right? Because the latter was missing many things.
This is really an epic idea. We really need to wteet SEGA for that so they won't neglect the PS4 DualShock 4 features. And I also hope there is mid-gen console support with Native 4K.
Oh definitely, have they even mentioned Pro/X details yet?
If I could tweet Sega I would do it.
Suzuki didn't want to implement that feature. He did so only because of the complains. The time skipping is not part of the Shenmue's philosophy.
Well that's real neato insight into tales from your ass, but the discussion is whether or not you can time skip in shenmue, not about the purity of the glorious philosophy. And you absolutely can. Stop spreading false information.
Nope, the discussion was precisely about game philsophy. You just played on words with someone trying to explain what's Shenmue, as usual with you I would say.
And yes, the time skipping was not wanted by Yu. It's a well known fact.
This is what I replied to:
This is not true. This doesn't say a damn thing about philosophy. This says you cannot time skip in shenmue. You can. You can time skip in shenmue II, and you can time skip in the shenmue remake.
And the dude I replied to didn't even know that, and appreciated the clarification. You are weird.
I didn't see them mentioning anything about the new consoles. Tweet 3t Ltd they are the devs. I just tweeted them about all DualShock 4 features and PS4 Pro support.
HD textures and HD resolutions but I don't know about the other assets. The infos say keeping the Dreamcast assets. It is a remaster not a remake.
Skipping time contextually is not the same at all as skipping time alone. You cannot skip time in the way Bethesda games do, and that makes all the difference in terms of gameplay.
The use of time is one of things that defines Shenmue's concept. So debate about game design philosophy, it definitely was. But as usual you'll rush into your keyboard, separate the part you want from the context, and deny again with your usual "this ain't true" "not at all" "you're lying" "you're weird". The discussion ends here on my side.
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there have been 2 GDC keynote presentations by Yu Suzuki on the development of Shenmue I and II, including a Shenmue post mortem at GDC 2015.
I'm talking about the Shenmue 1&2 HD collection project if it wasn't clear, not about the original Dreamcast games.
I don't really get this. Achievements are pretty much just a tacked on feature that don't affect a game's story or modes. Ignore them if you're not interested.
D3T, the ones developing this remaster, have floated the idea of doing dev diaries on Twitter if they can get the time.
Isn't it mandatory for games on Xbox/Playstation to have achievements/trophies anyway? At least I've never come across a game that didn't have any, bar the old Playstation 3 games that came out before the trophy system was in place.
Should I sell my copy of the og Xbox version ? I never really gotten around to it and now it's kind of redundant with the remasters coming out
Beats me, I don't play on consoles outside my Switch.
Nice they're in, though. Maybe it'll encourage average players to try chasing some of the well hidden side-content.
Yes all XONE/PS4 games must have achievements/trophies. If a certain dev really dislikes them they can just make less or ditch the platinum (Firewatch originally had only 5 trophies, SOMA has only 10).
Adam said Sega was "floored" by the response to the Shenmue HD announcement. I think it's going to sell very well and let Sega know that they need to support Shenmue fully going forward. Of course that also depends on the sales of Shenmue 3 too but I must say we fans have come a long way since the days when Sega wouldn't even acknowledge Shenmue's existence...
This collection has been requested for so many years. I'm curious, has there been any mention as to how long it has been in active development, and/or when Sega started actively researching its viability?
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