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Shin Megami Tensei 3 Nocturne is kicking my ass
- Thread starter DJwest
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Really, 90% of all Nocturne threads ever created could easily just be titled "Jesus Christ, Matador, WHY?!"
Matador memes are unironically my favorite thing about Nocturne. Of everything in that game that still resonates after playing it Matador is still the most memorable.
That fight is the ultimate test of whether or not the game is for you. He unequivocally beat my ass the first time around and then I aced him the second go around after re-evaluating my strategy. It left me with a level of satisfaction very few JRPGs give after a boss battle. Aesthetically it's a treat, all of the fiends are. From the music to their unique battle field and charismatic dialogue they're all fantastic.
That fight is the ultimate test of whether or not the game is for you. He unequivocally beat my ass the first time around and then I aced him the second go around after re-evaluating my strategy. It left me with a level of satisfaction very few JRPGs give after a boss battle. Aesthetically it's a treat, all of the fiends are. From the music to their unique battle field and charismatic dialogue they're all fantastic.
My advice for beginners is to almost always have Rakukaja available for bosses and utilize resistances/weaknesses. When fusing make sure to accept the skills you want, spending a little time to reroll can pay off in the long run. Noting some stuff down can be useful at times.
Matador is the first real test of the game so if you get a handle on that fight you'll be on your way.
Matador is the first real test of the game so if you get a handle on that fight you'll be on your way.
Good old Matador.
That music when he shows up too. Damn.
Agility buffs. Agility down. Whatever force resist you can find. You'll get him.
Nocturne is not actually all that difficult once you get rolling, but buffs are important. Press turn can be infuriating with dragon eye and such, but choose str or mag and just pump it. 90% of my deaths were probably from me taking myself out from repels.
That music when he shows up too. Damn.
Agility buffs. Agility down. Whatever force resist you can find. You'll get him.
Nocturne is not actually all that difficult once you get rolling, but buffs are important. Press turn can be infuriating with dragon eye and such, but choose str or mag and just pump it. 90% of my deaths were probably from me taking myself out from repels.
Pretty sure you have to fight daisoujou before you can fuse him and he is a later fiend. Daisoujou was my Matador, I raged so hard tackling him but it's true he is a great demon to keep for the rest of the game.
Persona 5 is one of the easiest if not the easiest Megaten title.
1. Use buffs, remember that unlike 'One More' mechanic in Persona, 'Press Turn' is all about getting as much turn as possible and avoid letting enemies do the same, so Sukukaja is objectively more important than Tarukaja/Rakukaja.
2. Get a demon with Void/Drain/Repel Force (Zan), you can equip Hifumi but it's kinda useless if one of your demon already Void/Drain/Repel Force, I personally prefer Kamudo to Hifumi due to Matador spamming Andalucia when he's low.
3. You can use MIN/MAX critical skill for easy win.
Unrelated to Matador but crucial information.
1. You can stack up to 4 buffs/debuffs.
2. Never let go of Pixie you got from beginning of the game, you can fuse her into new demon, but do not let this new demon go. Or you can play it safe and just keep the Pixie and don't let her go ever.
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1. Use buffs, remember that unlike 'One More' mechanic in Persona, 'Press Turn' is all about getting as much turn as possible and avoid letting enemies do the same, so Sukukaja is objectively more important than Tarukaja/Rakukaja.
2. Get a demon with Void/Drain/Repel Force (Zan), you can equip Hifumi but it's kinda useless if one of your demon already Void/Drain/Repel Force, I personally prefer Kamudo to Hifumi due to Matador spamming Andalucia when he's low.
3. You can use MIN/MAX critical skill for easy win.
Unrelated to Matador but crucial information.
1. You can stack up to 4 buffs/debuffs.
2. Never let go of Pixie you got from beginning of the game, you can fuse her into new demon, but do not let this new demon go. Or you can play it safe and just keep the Pixie and don't let her go ever.
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Ah, that's true, it's been a while since I've played the game. But I did have to fuse Daisoujou in order to defeat one the the fiends, must have been one of the riders.
Yeah, Daisoujou kicks ass. My final team for
Lucifer was Daisoujou, Black Frost and the uber Pixie you get endgame. Beat him.on the first try.
It's the opposite, it's great that everyone is on the same page here.
It is the 1st thing which pops up when SMT3 talk is going on lol.
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Well, good to know that I'm certainly not the only one who hit that brick wall lol
Nwah, it happend mostly to all of us, especially when you're new to the SMT series, so no shame :).
Welcome to SMT friend. There are times when even I wonder 'why do I like these games??' because goddamn they can really kick your ass and laugh at you while you're down.
Anyway, these fine folks have given you all the times I could have. So good luck, and happy god-slaying.
Anyway, these fine folks have given you all the times I could have. So good luck, and happy god-slaying.
I've never even played the game, and I knew. Hahaha. Coincidentally, I was just telling my friend about the matador and Gyo photoshop (first reply) this evening. He left my house less than an hour ago. Lo and behold.
I recall I had 2 Demons immune to physical attacks for that fight, which made it easier.
Daisoujou's flat out broken. That's one of my few problems with the Maniax edition of Nocturne (which is all NA got): The fiends and their fights are outrageously cool, but the main game was clearly not balanced for playing with them. A midgame demon should not be soloing fights and remaining a mainstay through endgame.
