I've never gotten the agency argument. It makes sense when someone doesn't have agency when they can technically have it. But when it's impossible to have agency in the first place, how can you say anything definite about the character at all?
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Should/Will a Street Fighter 6 do away with Cammy's gratuitous ass shots?
- Thread starter MajulaDream
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I've never gotten the agency argument. It makes sense when someone doesn't have agency when they can technically have it. But when it's impossible to have agency in the first place, how can you say anything definite about the character at all?
100% on Cammy. She need a damn redesign. She looks ridiculous on her default costume. There is so much they could pull from in other media.
I hope they push Ryu to be even more a hobo as well.
I mean, mainly because w/e reasoning is being given such as ladies like to show off their workout bods for a fictional character comes down to usually a man giving some bs reason why they made a horny ass design.
Like, a rash guard with some compression shorts would've been an awesome design choice. Give her stuff a neat design on her outfit, bam, done. It shows she's a fighter, and it makes her look cool.
Lol I know, I was partially being silly with my comment, but I also was partially serious.
And yes I know sexism is a big problem in games and all media (well in everything actually).
Friend is clearing out house for a garage sale and pulled out a ton of Street Fighter merch he gave me. One of which was a Cammy statue.... I'm embarrassed to own it but damn that ass can not be denied. For reals though yes bare minium her default costume should be changed. The asstastic leotard being so iconic to the character ( for better or worse) that it will never be completely removed.
Should she get a new default costume? Sure.
That leotard costume isn't going anywhere, though. If it's not her default, it'll be DLC, along with a bunch of other sexy costumes, as evidenced by the SF5 DLC.
That leotard costume isn't going anywhere, though. If it's not her default, it'll be DLC, along with a bunch of other sexy costumes, as evidenced by the SF5 DLC.
Honestly some of the character designs in SFV are just fucking embarrassing. Things SHOULD change but they wont.
You just dont understand that this fictional character's ass is a huge part of who she is as a person. /s
False. Cammy is muscular and toned in SF5. Unless your referring just to her ass than still no.
Damn that slap looked powerful. Look at that blood!
Jessica Haggar playable fighter when?
They should do away with it, and I'm somewhat expecting it to happen for eSports reasons (I'm just thinking back to this match when a Mika player had to go with a less sexualized costume; they could avoid this problem by having the default designs be "eSports / stream friendly")
It won't stop a nostalgia costume from being a thing, and all her other costumes will probably be super sexualized too (bc SFV has shown Capcom they can make bank off DLC costumes) but this is what I'm expecting to happen with Cammy in SF6
If you really want an answer, I'd recommend you direct your question to this thread
It won't stop a nostalgia costume from being a thing, and all her other costumes will probably be super sexualized too (bc SFV has shown Capcom they can make bank off DLC costumes) but this is what I'm expecting to happen with Cammy in SF6
If you really want an answer, I'd recommend you direct your question to this thread
I invite all of the don't change Cammy people to visit this thread. https://www.resetera.com/threads/wh...ave-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/
To me the concept of characters designs being iconic and sacred completely goes out the window when the company makes tons of wacky alternative costumes available. How often do you see a SFV match with both players using the default costume?
If Cammy's default look in SFVI was like this.
There'd be an uproar and the "justification" would be that her look is iconic and they shouldn't change it.
But I guarantee that if they instead changed her default costume to be more like this.
Those same people would suddenly care a lot less about tradition.
If Cammy's default look in SFVI was like this.
There'd be an uproar and the "justification" would be that her look is iconic and they shouldn't change it.
But I guarantee that if they instead changed her default costume to be more like this.
Those same people would suddenly care a lot less about tradition.
Well yeah. Those same people are defending for horny reasons and Capcom would probably add her og suit later.To me the concept of characters designs being iconic and sacred completely goes out the window when the company makes tons of wacky alternative costumes available. How often do you see a SFV match with both players using the default costume?
If Cammy's default look in SFVI was like this.
There'd be an uproar and the "justification" would be that her look is iconic and they shouldn't change it.
But I guarantee that if they instead changed her default costume to be more like this.
Those same people would suddenly care a lot less about tradition.
Men do not have a long toxic legacy of being reduced to sex objects that persists to this day and so depicting men as sexual is not an adequate response to sexualizing female character designs.
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Era must be the place on the internet that doesn't like asses.
It's already been posted but goddamn the replies ITT
Remember that time Capcom was surprised that people found Ryu with a beard attractive? They absolutely approach male character designs differently.
I honestly have no idea about Jin's origin as a sprite since I only saw him in Marvel.
Dhalsim got a pretty big overhaul.
Charlie too, but hes not SF2 cast.
They just need to base her main design off her RE Jill costume next time
I was going to buy that outfit since its her only tactical alt but i rarely play SF5 anyway.They just need to base her main design off her RE Jill costume next time
Even Marvel have worked on toning it down, though. See Spider-Woman and Captain (formerly Ms.) Marvel.
Her design never really made since other than being a relic fro the 80s and early 90s.
I much prefer her Fiona costume
I much prefer her Fiona costume
Just because not every character needs their ass or tits hanging out doesn't mean none of them can have their ass or tits hanging out.
I have spoken.
I have spoken.
ResetERA: We're the most liberal gaming forum on the Web.
Also ResetERA: Cammy's ass is her most defining feature. Also, women enjoy showing their ass, ever thought of that?
Y'all fucking suck. No wonder anyone not straight, white, and male is driven away.
Also ResetERA: Cammy's ass is her most defining feature. Also, women enjoy showing their ass, ever thought of that?
Y'all fucking suck. No wonder anyone not straight, white, and male is driven away.
What the fuck does being liberal have to do with wanting Cammy's design to stay the same? Like brah.
As long as you have (free) alternated costumes with pants, I have no problem in leaving her default look as it is.
With or without butt, though, I'd love everyone getting new designs in every new entry (even Ryu). Leave the classic look as an extra outfit.
With or without butt, though, I'd love everyone getting new designs in every new entry (even Ryu). Leave the classic look as an extra outfit.
Not really. "Showing skin" in a traditional fighting garb is far different from actually being sexualized, most of men sexy features are either grossly exhagerated or not really evidenced or exposed in Street Fighter. The closest SF got to sexualizing a guy is the Cody Haggar outfit, and even though it's tacky, the Ed red costume. Meanwhile most of women outfits are actually sexualized and meant to display very particular parts of their bodies, including ass, thighs and breasts.
It's just not the same, it could be from the point of view of someone that isn't attracted to men, but call me when their thighs are exposed, or when you can partially see their ass, or when the camera zooms on their... features. Then we can resume the discussion of either they are or not sexualized to the same extent as female characters.