Silent Hill 2 remake pre-order lists a "new origin story" for Pyramid Head [UP: Apparently not. See threadmarks]
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Yeah, it's phrased weirdly but the bullet point doesn't strictly speaking say that the origin story is Pyramid Head's.
My first thought upon reading it was that it was referencing "Born From a Wish".
Of course, even if it was phrased better, it seems like people have already make their minds about the remake already.
I haven't played any game from the studio so I can't comment on their track record (and frankly, what people are saying about them here just tells me that their writers are very insensitive, not that their games are necessarily bad per se).
But considering Konami's own track record... Well, I want to be optimistic, but I at least can understand some of the malaise.
Critical analysis of past evidence isn't at all the same thing as assumptions based on nothing. Konami hasn't put out a good Silent Hill game in well over a decade, their products for years now have been cheap and shown no regard for quality, the first thing coming out of their Silent Hill revival is an unimaginable embarrassment, Bloober has put out mostly mediocre games, and their interviews regarding this project don't inspire confidence that they know what makes the original so good. I'm assuming nothing, I'm making a prediction that it will be a huge disappointment based on all the evidence that suggests it'll be a disappointment.
if i had to guess right now, i would imagine it's an extra, side content-based short section/story.
you either access it via one of the new endings, a original area or the main menu.
i hope it's something apart, like you can either ignore it or play without compromising the main narrative we know and love.
you either access it via one of the new endings, a original area or the main menu.
i hope it's something apart, like you can either ignore it or play without compromising the main narrative we know and love.
I know y'all hate Bloober but learn to read. Two completely separate things. Pyramid head returns and an origin story for the game at large
I still think this too and consider this thread an overreaction over a bullet point.
Remember when they had Nemesis cry an actual tear at the end of the second live action movie? It feels like how this would go.
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It's funny because you know Bloober was already knee deep into developing SH2R when he posted that lol
Maybe that was the day Konami asked him to write an origin story for Pyramid Head.
Konami: "Hey, Ito! Bubby! Baby! You know that thing you're famous for? Pyramid Head?"
Ito: "Red Pyramid Thing?"
Konami: "Yeah, Pyramid Head! Do you think maybe you could help out the guys remaking Silent Hill 2 and come up with an origin story for Pyramid Head that they can develop into a new chapter of the game?"
Ito: "But Silent Hill 2 already explained the origin. There's nothing to--"
Konami: "Great! Sounds like you have lots of ideas already! Looking forward to what you come up with!"
Ito: "I wish I hadn't designed fxxkin Pyramid Head."
Konami really thought the dog could cook huh
Why would they think the dog could cook
he's a dog
Konami is so dumb.
Why would they think the dog could cook
he's a dog
Konami is so dumb.
always wanted to play thatWatch it be an adaptation of The Arcade:
It's no wonder the fans love Pyramid Head!
What on earth...how have I never heard of this? What was the gameplay like? 'Hold your fire' makes me think lightgun.
View: https://youtu.be/2c6Yh_zr1ls?si=OdOGnsLE2kZRRrru&t=23
It's a light gun game based on the Little Baroness monument in Silent Hill 2. It's a cheap asset flip where you visit locations from Silent Hill 2 and 3 with no respect to making sense. Like you visit the Silent Hill Historical Society and end up in Toluca Prison where there's a graveyard below the prison just like the one James finds even though all of that was specific to his psyche and has nothing to do with the characters in this game. You even end up in Central Square Shopping Center from Silent Hill 3, which is in a different town...
Am I missing something? Lisa trevor was an entirely new thing not from the original game. Pyramid head already has an origin and its a manifestation of james guilt.
This is like giving a tragic backstory to fucking chucky or michael myers (yes, I know both versions got a back story, but I will stand that what we got in 6 was better than the rob zombie shit.) why can't pyramid head just be a monster? he doesn't need a family!
Kinda thought this haha. That or "Hey, so this is what Bloober pitched and we're all on board. Just need your signature if you want a paycheck"
*cue Ito's tweet*
But I do need to ask about bloober games and their messaging. How does it differ from being sympathetic to a thirsty, misogynistic boomer after his crime? SH2 is a top 3 or 5 game for me so I don't mean to shit smear it with such a basic descriptor but one part I'm curious about is how a more sensitive landscape will handle such a theme. Is it more preachy with less thought put into the victims? Do you play as the abuser or are they the antagonist with a redemption arc? Just curious because I always see it brought up but feel like the same can be done for James and SH2 but we all defend it because it's a classic/favorite. I don't plan on playing it either so spoil away. I'm sure I know the answer (poor writing, no subtlety, no care for the victims, no justice etc).
In The Medium the ends with you killing the abused complete with the achievement "Can't always save everyone". The monster in the game was an allegory for her trauma and the only way for it to end was to kill her.
I assume Ito has the final word on this, right? if he actually came up with something new for PH, then i'll be ok with this.
i don't get the mention of SH5 in that overview, are the planning to remake every entry or something? i'm confused.
and what is SH Short Stories?
i don't get the mention of SH5 in that overview, are the planning to remake every entry or something? i'm confused.
and what is SH Short Stories?
He's an inter dimensional traveler who links all worlds in the silentverse.
Watch the first two episodes of the new action thriller Silent Hill Shattered Dimensions, streaming exclusively on paramount plus
Sorry for the spoilers
Watch the first two episodes of the new action thriller Silent Hill Shattered Dimensions, streaming exclusively on paramount plus
Sorry for the spoilers
Edit: wrong quote
You kill the abused? As in her trauma made her a monster type situation? OK, it is as clown shoes as I'd expected based on the reactions compared to SH2. Hopefully SH2 doesn't get the type of flack I expect when viewed from a simplified POV as I'd alluded to above lol.
What if it's actually James that is the figment of Pyramid Head's imagination?
Maybe it has a saviour complex (due to past trauma, of course) so it needs to come up with imaginary scenarios where it can play the role of a hero so it can feel good about itself.
Please hire me, Konami.
It seems the "origin story" in the Best Buy listing might have been taken from an out-of-context quote from Masahiro Ito on the Canadian Gamestop website.
https://www.gamestop.ca/PS5/Games/914541/silent-hill-2
https://www.gamestop.ca/PS5/Games/914541/silent-hill-2
We don't know Ito's full involvement right now beyond re-designing monsters (you can see design differences in the nurses, the Lying Figure, and even in the texture on Pyramid Head). Hopefully he has been a resource in reworking the story/scenes.
Known leaker DuskGolem has stated that Silent Hill f is being viewed internally as the next mainline entry. Seems likely it was referred as 'SH5' by whatever actual insider within Konami leaked all of this stuff.
SH Stories seems to be another internal name for possibly multiple smaller SH projects by indie developers. Silent Hill Townfall, by NoCode (and Annapurna) is the only one revealed thus far.
