I knew from the op that this was about that fucking frog. That guy is the hardest boss in the game.
So going from Demon’s Souls to Jedi Fallen Order is rough... (Respawn loading times)
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Like trying to go back to DS4 from DualSense you'll never go back muwahaha
Same. Loading times in JFO were not something that I expected to experience on PS5. Can't imagine how bad it must be on PS4.
But what truly ruined JFO for me was Sekiro, which I played a rather long time ago, but I still remember how responsive controls in combat were in that game. Unlike in JFO, where combat is junky.
But what truly ruined JFO for me was Sekiro, which I played a rather long time ago, but I still remember how responsive controls in combat were in that game. Unlike in JFO, where combat is junky.
I remember BluePoint saying in an article and interview that they deliberately made Demon's Souls loading a little slower so that players could reflect on their death even though it is ridiculously fast as is.
looks like the devs didnt optimize it for SSD that much. I am sure they could get the loading times under 10 seconds or even less if they had time/budget for it.
I went from Demon's Souls to Dark Souls Remastered on my PC and, dare I say it, it might even be loading a little faster, lol.
Yes, 2012 textures vs the beautiful Demon's Souls, etc etc, but I have not been left wanting for quicker load times with this switch, thankfully. God bless SSDs.
I do miss the pretty graphics...
Yes, 2012 textures vs the beautiful Demon's Souls, etc etc, but I have not been left wanting for quicker load times with this switch, thankfully. God bless SSDs.
I do miss the pretty graphics...
I got stuck in the same boss just yesterday. I also stopped do to load times
Yeah I was about to give up, but tried one more time and somehow my parries were almost 100% on point, only fucked up avoiding a couple of unblockable lunge attacks. All for nothing though because to open the cage in that arena you need an upgrade, so I'll come back later.
I didn't find the loading times to bad on PC, but the constant hitches in framerate are depressing. Game is good apart from the random stutter.
On a somewhat related note, have people been finding it hard to go from FROM's newer stuff back to Demon's Souls? I know Demon's Souls has great graphics & drastically improved load times, but it seems like it'd feel like a regression to go back to it from stuff like Sekiro, Bloodborne, and the Dark Souls games. Like even at the time, I thought Dark Souls 1 was a big improvement over Demon's Souls.
It honestly felt like I was playing any of the Dark Souls, didn't feel like a downgrade in gameplay or anything like that. If anything, I was surprised by how well-designed the mechanics were considering that was From's first venture into this kind of title.
40 seconds seems very long. I beat the game on Series X recently and loading is a few seconds at most.
No, that's not possible with SW:Fallen Order because it isn't a PS5 game. It's a PS4 game that runs in BC mode on the PS5. All PS4 games load no faster on the PS5 than they do on a PS4 that has an SSD.
To get near instant loading for this or any other PS4 BC game on the PS5, the dev would have to make a dedicated PS5 version (like Sony's Spiderman games). Those type of games can then also add haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, better textures, etc. than the current PS4 version.
It's probably not the average, but I did have very long loading times yesterday. In some instances it felt like it loaded fairly faster, but I didn't measure those. Will see how it goes tonight.
Long loadings after dying is extra punishment for players. I was facing this on Control (I suck at shooters) and had no problem activating Assist Mode to beat bosses. It is surely better than waiting a minute after each death. I'm glad loading times are going to be reduced in this generation.
The loading on respawn is fucking dumb. You instantly load in when you fall off ledges, and you instantly load in when you rest. What the fuck?!
To me the biggest difference was the bosses, they are pretty whatever on Demon's, but the other games are much, much better. I've started bloodborne again, and the bosses are way harder than anything on DS. However that performance hurts, I need a 60fps patch stat, hell, I'll take a "remove stutters and play at a solid 30" patch
If I ever do play this game at some point, I can't imagine myself playing on anything higher than normal. I don't think I would care to be dying that much.
I thought the giant bat was. I had to actually drop the difficulty on that one.
I finished the game last night and enjoyed it a lot. LOL at that running animation though, he makes Forrest Gump look graceful.
Eh....by the time you reach the bat, you're far better equipped to handle it. I managed that on my first attempt, but the dumb-ass frog i ended up returning to near the end of the game. So in that sense, the early encounter with it definitely feels harder.
I didn't notice any significant loading issues on Series X. Sure, it could have probably been faster with some optimization, but it wasn't really noticeable to me enough to stand out as being bad.
I played this game last month on PS5 and loading times were faster for sure, but occasionally, and when dying, it would take much longer to respawn, but like x3 the time. Seemed like a bug to me. It maybe happened 5 or 6 times to me (and i died a lot lol)
Yes absolutely. Demon's Souls plays like a slog compared to Sekiro for example, which is by far From Software's most modern, polished and streamlined game. Sekiro plays very fast and fluid. No stamina bar, fairly placed save points, no fall damage, grappling hook, streamlined inventory/weapon/equipment/character progression systems, less numbers in general, etc. help a lot. Demon's Souls has a somewhat archaic overtone in comparison.
As a newcomer to the series (having played Demon's in november and having reached the final boss in Sekiro just last night, with a Bloodborne playthrough in-between), I don't think it's that simple - Sekiro is not at all a direct upgrade from the Souls series. They are very different games, conveying different things, but sharing a similar DNA.
Obviously, Demon's is way slower than Sekiro, but so are MGS5 or even RE4 compared to Vanquish. Except for the more obtuse ones, I thought that the mechanics in Demon's held up really well. The core gameplay is a blast.
And that's a minor point of your argument but there absolutely is some fall damage in Sekiro.
It seems loading is generally faster in back-compat games on XSX than on PS5. Even short ones - I load into my Rocket League matches faster than my friends on PS5 when I'm playing on Series X.
Slightly off topic, but if I enjoyed the gameplay in Fallen Order would I also enjoy Demon's Souls? Or are the two games not really comparable?
I found myself having a good time with the combat in Fallen Order, despite it's jankiness. I'm interested in trying something else that's stimiliar, I've seen it compared to Sekiro but I doubt I have the skills and reflexes required for that game.
I found myself having a good time with the combat in Fallen Order, despite it's jankiness. I'm interested in trying something else that's stimiliar, I've seen it compared to Sekiro but I doubt I have the skills and reflexes required for that game.
Isn't it because the game runs in backward compatibility mode when played on PS5? Like it's not optimized for the PS5 SSD.
I haven't played much of Fallen Order to say yet, but yeah I think the reason they compare it to Sekiro is the openness of the levels, something the previous games don't really have as your mobility is more limited and linear. Combat-wise, yeah Sekiro has a stance bar and faster action, so it's comparable in that regard too. With that said, difficulty is something that you need to keep in mind and Sekiro doesn't hold back in that regard. Bloodborne is a great game too, if you want to explore that.
The obvious solution is to just not die
jk it's not Dark Souls but it certainly isn't the easiest game in the world
jk it's not Dark Souls but it certainly isn't the easiest game in the world
I was about to disagree with you two as I'm playing on XSX and the respawn loading times are awful (like exactly as the OP describes on his PS5) BUT I just realized that I may have accidentally installed it on my external HDD. My god. I really hope that's why. I'm really enjoying this game (and Quick Resume makes it really easy to just pick up and play) but those death reload time suuuuck.
I'll check this first thing when I get home.
I remember it during the Bloodborne days, as the launch version had terribly long loading time. So people (jokingly I think) mentioned that shit was part of the punishment lol, I don't recall if it was ever meant to be taken seriously tbh.
Yeah, you're not going to get SSD speeds using an external HDD ;-)
Here's a benchmark comparing PS5 and Series S|X load times:
I know!! I just assumed that it was installed to my SSD, and simply thought it might be related to it not being a "proper" next-gen patch (whatever that means). But looks like it's a mistake on my part haha
I feel like respawn times are normally really quick for me? I just started playing this on PS5 on the SSD this past weekend.
When I fall in a hole or into some unswimmable water I reappear almost instantly.
When I fall in a hole or into some unswimmable water I reappear almost instantly.
I just checked again, died and after the Respawn sign was less than 5 seconds I think. I feel like it's usually shorter but I was miles from my last meditation point.
Oh, those are instant, but respawn upon death (as in losing all of your HP) takes a while.
Damn that's music to my ears! I died a bunch of times on that stupid frog, too, and loading to the nearby meditation point took at least 30 seconds. Alright, gotta stop checking era now, wrap up my work and then boot up my Xbox lol
Awesome, I have Bloodborne as part of PS Plus so I'll check that out first and then move on to Demon's Souls. Thanks!