Well there it is. It takes quite a while longer to load on PS5 than it does on the Series X and S consoles.
Guess I'm gonna have to try and avoid dying too often and I'll keep using rest mode for sure.
So going from Demon’s Souls to Jedi Fallen Order is rough... (Respawn loading times)
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Well there it is. It takes quite a while longer to load on PS5 than it does on the Series X and S consoles.
Guess I'm gonna have to try and avoid dying too often and I'll keep using rest mode for sure.
For those that don't watch the video, here are the stats. The XSX smokes the PS5 in loading time. All are installed on the internal SSD.
XSX: 16.06s
XSS: 16.13s
PS5: 43.71s
Well, this is odd. Just checked and it is installed to my internal SSD. Huh.
Loading is fine, all things considered, but when respawning it takes much longer than I would have expected with the SSD, especially compared with Forza Horizon 4's car switching or DOOM Eternal's loading. So that's weird.
I guess I'll have to actually time it next time an enemy kills me.
I disagree. There simply wasnt a game for which its dev team decided to reduce loading times for next gen hardware. It was remaster, next gen version etc, but never an update for SSD.
You telling me that the game for ps4 cant have faster loadings when devs decide to redo some hdd/sdd programming?
I cant imagine that it wouldnt be possible.
Dude, this has been established for months now.
100% of all PS4 games run on the PS5 in backwards compatibility mode. In BC mode, every game loads the same on the PS5 (unless stored on an external HDD) as it does on a PS4 Pro with a SSD. Not only that, SSDs on the PS4 Pro do *NOT* run at the drive's maximum speed. It is faster than an HDD, but has its limits based on the SATA tech's limitations on the machine.
To maximize compatibility (IMHO), Sony has the PS5 cloning the ability of the PS4 Pro in BC mode when it comes to this issue. That's why there is no improvement with the PS5's internal or external SSD, and there is nothing a dev can do about it because those limitations are SDK related and the dev is helpless in changing that.
As I said above, the only way a dev can improve loading times that take advantage of the PS5's SSD is to release a full PS5 version of the game. There is no other option.
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Has some dev said that it is impossible to update ps4 game to take advantage of ssd for faster loading times? Has any dav team said that if they want to do that, they need to do full next gen version? Or is it your assumption? Genuinely asking right now. Thanks.
Well yes, it's on an SSD. Dark Souls games usually load quite fast as well if you play the PC versions and install them on a SSD drive.
Out of curiosity, just how fast can games load when in theory the engines that they're running on are (for a lack of better word) rewritten for these SSD's?
Take Spiderman for example, from a cold boot
loading a save using the activities cards, it takes a whopping 10 seconds (amazing!!) but could/should it be faster?
Take Spiderman for example, from a cold boot
loading a save using the activities cards, it takes a whopping 10 seconds (amazing!!) but could/should it be faster?
Dark Souls Remastered has 1-2s load times on PC with an SSD. Sometimes it's pretty much instant.
That mini boss being the giant lizard thing?
My advice is don't bother. Come back to it later, because you're just too weak in The early goings.
My advice is don't bother. Come back to it later, because you're just too weak in The early goings.
This has zero to do with me. Your question is no different than asking if PS4 games can be patched or developed allowing access to the DualSense's haptic and adaptive trigger abilities. The answer is "no" for the same reason devs can't make full use of an SSD's speed. They can't because the SDK that developers use to make PS4 games can't "see" these features on the PS5. They can only see the limits possible on a PS4 Pro.
As I said, it's all accepted knowledge by now that PS4 BC games on the PS5 do not exceed the maximums allowed by the PS4 Pro. Do you want 60 fps in a PS4 game on the PS5 in BC mode? Then the game has to have been programmed to reach that potential on the PS4 Pro (even though the PS5's power allows for more consistency in reaching the max). The same is true for the maximum resolution... PS5 BC mode cannot exceed the maximum resolution available on the PS4 Pro.
So that's why all evidence points to this being true as well for loading times. Every single video of loading speeds for PS4 games running on either the PS5's internal or an external SSD run at the exact same speeds of PS4 Pro games running on an SSD. This is because the BC shell that Sony made on the PS5 does not see anything accept what a PS4 Pro allows.
Getting back to the topic, this Star Wars game actually can improve loading speeds without making a PS5 version if the dev figures out a way for the game to alo speed up loading on a PS4 Pro with a SSD (maybe better compression or something like that). The improvement won''t be nearly as impressive as a native PS5 game (as Spiderman shows), but the main point is that there's only so much that can be done without a truly next gen re-release.
Already beat it yesterday heh, but it was useless because I can't open the cage yet... and I'm on the second hardest difficulty... all that effort and loading for nothing lol.
Hey, those loading screens contain vital tips, I'm tellin' ya!
I've had load times as short as like 5 seconds to as long as a minute. This is on Xbox series x
If you're last meditation spot was far from the place you died the load times are quite long. The load time from dying to the second sister was probably the longest I've experienced. Excruciatingly long, but that was before the patch, I don't know how it is now.
But yeah demons souls load times are fantastic.
If you're last meditation spot was far from the place you died the load times are quite long. The load time from dying to the second sister was probably the longest I've experienced. Excruciatingly long, but that was before the patch, I don't know how it is now.
But yeah demons souls load times are fantastic.
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SW: Fallen Order is the poster child for archaic game design. If I used any game from the previous generation of an example of how hardware limitations could compromise the gameplay experience it would be that game
That boss (oggdo boggdo or whatever) is easily cheesable. You are approaching from within the cave, right? (where you can cut the poles in the way just prior to froggys room). You can go into his room, get a hit or two in (always from the side, abuse the force slow power to help) and then simply retreat back into the cave from where you entered the froggy's room. he can't follow you there, so just regroup and repeat, one safe-ish lick at a time.
You can also fight legit- tricky, but not impossible. You just want to keep to the side of the creature and away from its aggressive forward lunges- don't bother with attempting blocks/parry. He even has a color change tell when he's about to do one of those lunges.
Just don't be greedy, be ready to constantly side dodge and punish him when he commits to a lunge and misses and you got time to get a hit or two in from the side, then retreat and repeat. Again, abuse the force slow as much as you can to ease up your ability to dodge and get to the creatures side and punish it a bit.
You can also fight legit- tricky, but not impossible. You just want to keep to the side of the creature and away from its aggressive forward lunges- don't bother with attempting blocks/parry. He even has a color change tell when he's about to do one of those lunges.
Just don't be greedy, be ready to constantly side dodge and punish him when he commits to a lunge and misses and you got time to get a hit or two in from the side, then retreat and repeat. Again, abuse the force slow as much as you can to ease up your ability to dodge and get to the creatures side and punish it a bit.