The American political machine is a joke and every day it feels less worth it to engage with it.Just saw this on twitter.
What a dickhead.
Seriously.. this guy is the best you have against Trump?
The American political machine is a joke and every day it feels less worth it to engage with it.Just saw this on twitter.
What a dickhead.
Seriously.. this guy is the best you have against Trump?
Look, you do realize you do not have to defend this comment, right? Like you can be fine voting for Biden despite this comment, it can not matter that much to you, but you do not HAVE TO try and defend the indefensible.
I was curious what was said so I searched for replies @ that user + "slave" and there's literally only one person between her initial tweets on the topic and her accusation that leftists were calling her a slave.
He is not the best we have. However the voting public sucks and chose the wrong guy.Just saw this on twitter.
What a dickhead.
Seriously.. this guy is the best you have against Trump?
I think the mistake made here is thinking anyone has to defend anything. I think it was dumb, don't consider him a racist and folks are free to feel how they like. One way or the other black folk here need to stop acting like they speak for other black people (in general, not pointed at you) and we'd have less issues. Generally, Biden is popular with black people and I don't personally think this is changing it, but hey you never know.oh you was a panther? And you defending joe Biden telling us we aint black if we don't vote for him?
Huey Newton rolling over in his fucking grave. Somehow I didn't think you could become more embarrassing but delishis, this is even worse of a look for you!
Im black, its a terribly bad joke I aint defending and you still need to go sit your ass down with this bullshit. Fuck outta here.
The irony... Jesus.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt given the context, I really hope he just meant to say that as in access to literature, because of not holy shit
I am black and I understand the complexities and his statement was extremely offensive and off-putting. While I agree he is the better option of the two, he doesn't inspire black folks I know to be enthusiastic and isn't even running on policies that will help the black community. We are all voting for him begrudgingly because Trump is much worse.I'm surprised nobody bothered to mention that Biden overwhelmingly won because of the black vote. This is typical Era feigning shock without actually understanding the complexities of a community.
Uh...Malcom X advocating for a black nation is not 'segregationist', segregation is the literal segmenting and marginalizing of the black community within a larger community, and doing so in a way that specifically harms black people and gives them less access to resources. Malcom X wanted self-determination for black people, not to be segregated inside of America with worse living conditions, which is what segregation is. It is shocking to me that you do not understand the distinction.I don't know what Malcolm would've thought about Biden. But I only brought up someone black who thought well of segregation because uniformed people here present it as a white supremacist only position.
Bernie had his chance, the populace as a whole rejected him. Can we move past it and stop saying it every-time we have a thread on Biden? Shit was nauseating in 2016, can we not do the same thing again in 2020.This guy is going to fuck it up. "Oh no one will ever vote for Bernie!"... yeah Bernie's not looking so bad right now huh? Just wait till the real electioneering starts and they start flinging real shit at Biden. He's fucked. He won't be up to it. This is just the beginning. Prepare for Emperor Trump.
What offends you so? The people defending this really could have just shut the fuck up for free and I wouldn't have said anything
Uh...Malcom X advocating for a black nation is not 'segregationist', segregation is the literal segmenting and marginalizing of the black community within a larger community, and doing so in a way that specifically harms black people and gives them less access to resources. Malcom X wanted self-determination for black people, not to be segregated inside of America with worse living conditions, which is what segregation is. It is shocking to me that you do not understand the distinction.
He is not the best we have. However the voting public sucks and chose the wrong guy.
Uh...Malcom X advocating for a black nation is not 'segregationist', segregation is the literal segmenting and marginalizing of the black community within a larger community, and doing so in a way that specifically harms black people and gives them less access to resources. Malcom X wanted self-determination for black people, not to be segregated inside of America with worse living conditions, which is what segregation is. It is shocking to me that you do not understand the distinction.
Yeah, not sure how he's supposed to be pushed left if people can't handle him being criticized for anything he does.Just another example of Biden telling a group he has hurt, through word or deed, that he has no obligation to be better so long as the competition is worse. And people will play damage control for him and shield him from all criticism, while still pretending that he can be "pushed left".
Other black folk shouldn't have to not share their opinion because you're going to wyle out and start calling them house negros. Had more of that ignorant bullshit in my life because I spoke differently despite coming from a rougher area than most. You can seriously kick rocks with this type of stuff.What offends you so? The people defending this really could have just shut the fuck up for free and I wouldn't have said anything
Same poster in question has a history of calling people 'sell-outs'.Other black folk shouldn't have to not share their opinion because you're going to wyle out and start calling them house negros. Had more of that ignorant bullshit in my life because I spoke different despite coming from a rougher area than most. You can seriously kick rocks with this type of stuff.
Please give an example of forced legal segregation that is not based around the oppression of a minority group then.Segregationist is the support of segregation. Segregation is synonymous with separation.
The US flavor of "separate and unequal" is not the only version of segregation that exists.
Or - hear me out - there's a global pandemic.This is why the party stuck him in a basement for the last couple of months
To bring language like 'house negroes' into a discussion where this old man is playing the age old "You ain't black if" card is just ridiculous dude, if not downright tone deaf.
Other black folk shouldn't have to not share their opinion because you're going to wyle out and start calling them house negros. Had more of that ignorant bullshit in my life because I spoke differently despite coming from a rougher area than most. You can seriously kick rocks with this type of stuff.
Same poster in question has a history of calling people 'sell-outs'.
Again with a blatant mischracterization. I doubt you even saw the interview.
That depends. Full mask-off racist? Maybe not. Racially insensitive or just plain boneheaded? We already saw that. We had 5 candidates at the end, all white, and all of whom at some point having made a racially insensitive comment (or several) due to either their proximity to Black people (Biden) or having no Black people on their team influential enough to say...maybe don't say that.
The problem with Biden is that it fits a pattern of him taking his comfort with Black people (Black leaders who have earned trust with our community, in particular) as a sort of "hood pass." That is a mistake. I don't believe that Biden went on TBC with the intent of revealing his racism, and I don't think the sheer number of Black people who know Biden and have worked with him would so enthusiastically throw their support behind him if they thought he was racist (and at some point I do allow room for that).
To me, the problem is more pervasive. Biden here reveals a lingering mentality that Dems ain't got to work for these Black ass votes. And the only reason I, personally, don't come down too hard on Biden specifically about this is because this is not a Biden specific problem. Voting Republican may be a non-option for the majority for us, but that is not an effective salve against the stinging reality that Democrats don't do nearly enough to reciprocate the hard work, discipline, loyalty, and frankly passion that Black people as a demographic infuse into this party. That goes well beyond Biden.
But that's the one we're talking about here. Why are you being disingenuous?The US flavor of "separate and unequal" is not the only version of segregation that exists.
Biden is going to start giving the late Rob Ford (previous mayor of Toronto) a run for his money.
But this one will never cease to amaze me:
Who said it wasn't? The whole idea of being pro-segregation from a black point of view is that we would never be fairly integrated into white society and thus needed seperation.Please give an example of forced legal segregation that is not based around the oppression of a minority group then.
But it fundamentally isn't the same, even if I find both morally questionable. It's like saying there weren't legitimate reasons outside of the religious connection for why many Zionists preferred their state to be in what is traditionally Judaea instead of somewhere in Europe or the Americas, and part of that was due to the feeling such a state would basically be an open-air ghetto instead of an actual state in (what was at the time) a relatively less antisemitic region. The outcome of that decision can (and is) still rightfully questioned to this day, but the reasoning is quite different from that of many white settlers to places like the Americas, Oceania, and Africa.Segregationist is the support of segregation. Segregation is synonymous with separation.
The US flavor of "separate and unequal" is not the only version of segregation that exists.
That's not pro-segregation, that's black nationalism. They are not the same thing! Also Biden never espoused black nationalist views, he supported keeping US, separate but unequal segregation when it came to busing.Who said is wasn't? The whole idea of being pro-segregation from a black point of view is that we would never be fairly integrated into white society and thus needed seperation.
Doesn't that suggest it would be even more apt to call out privileged white people?
It's not tone deaf. What makes defending a white man telling black people they're not black if they dont vote for him acceptable?
It's not tone deaf. What makes defending a white man telling black people they're not black if they dont vote for him acceptable?
At least if you were white and defending this, I understand because whiteness. But if you're BLACK and saying this, yes that is very much coonish behavior. Now being a house negro doesn't make you not black. I'm not rejecting your identity, I'm just characterizing it in the way that I have observed.
And yeah you can say "well I'm not defending it but I don't see why you other negroes are so outraged" as if it makes it any better. Like the fact that you don't understand why black people would so viscerally react to Biden, or any other white person, saying this, is why I'm calling people names.
But this isn't about simple difference in opinion. It's about not reading the room and understanding that other black people may react to racist jokes more viscerally than others. I'm not calling niggas house negroes because they like Linkin Park or wear Hot Topic, I'm calling them house negroes because they fail to EMPATHIZE with their skinfolk over something that NONE of us should be defending
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This is semantics. Alot of the arguments for pro "segregation", "black nationalism" or whatever you want to call it came as opposition to integration as it was being pushed and legislated .That's not pro-segregation, that's black nationalism. They are not the same thing!
Seriously, log out and pick up a bookThis is semantics. Alot of the arguments for pro "segregation", "black nationalism" or whatever you want to call it came as opposition to integration as it was being pushed and legislated .
This is semantics. Alot of the arguments for pro "segregation", "black nationalism" or whatever you want to call it came as opposition to integration as it was being pushed and legislated .
Materia Man is too old to be thinking this, you should have the age and wisdom to see through this, right old timer?Niggas are being plain ridiculous if they think Black Nationalism is the same thing as segregation. Pick up a fucking book bro
It is absolutely not semantics, people who were pro-segregation wanted to maintain the legal oppression of black people in US society, people who were in favor of black nationalism wanted black people to create their own nation where they could self-determine and weren't subject to the laws of a white majority. They are literal opposites.This is semantics. Alot of the arguments for pro "segregation", "black nationalism" or whatever you want to call it came as opposition to integration as it was being pushed and legislated .
It's not tone deaf. What makes defending a white man telling black people they're not black if they dont vote for him acceptable?
At least if you were white and defending this, I understand because whiteness. But if you're BLACK and saying this, yes that is very much coonish behavior. Now being a house negro doesn't make you not black. I'm not rejecting your identity, I'm just characterizing it in the way that I have observed.
And yeah you can say "well I'm not defending it but I don't see why you other negroes are so outraged" as if it makes it any better. Like the fact that you don't understand why black people would so viscerally react to Biden, or any other white person, saying this, is why I'm calling people names.
But this isn't about simple difference in opinion. It's about not reading the room and understanding that other black people may react to racist jokes more viscerally than others. I'm not calling niggas house negroes because they like Linkin Park or wear Hot Topic, I'm calling them house negroes because they fail to EMPATHIZE with their skinfolk over something that NONE of us should be defending
This quote chain is for africans only, thanks!