You have, in various ways, but I would specifically appreciate a refresher on what you think "self described socialists" currently should be doing, as tangible actions. If you wouldn't mind?
Look at what life has been like under the world's greatest upheavals and revolutions. Wouldn't it be better to be able to recall adjunct and essential skills that aid in surviving revolutionary times than it would be to simply quote Lenin?
You seem to imply that workers will come to the correct conclusions on their own.
Yes. You can not dictate a solution to a group's struggles. There isn't an idea to be built towards.
What do you say when the working class adopts fascist ideas then?
There will always be the danger of reactionaries who support Capital as it removes the facade of formal democracy and uses violence to discipline revolutionary elements. Fascism is no different than any other examples of violently authoritarian Capitalism.
There is no "answer" to how to prevent the reactionary element and every revolutionary situation is constrained by its own material condition, so there can simply not be one single answer. We live in a bourgeois and Capitalist society, theoretical ideas are marked by our bourgeois and capitalist way of thinking. We think of Revolution and worker's movements as something that requires a milestone to be set and then "managed". That is bourgeois and incompatible with a society that exists outside of these social structures.
The revolution will see victories and defeats until the real Party and the real Vanguard is developed and theoretically sound.
If you want to read some more, then:
http://libcom.org/library/activism-amadeo-bordiga
the people like me who are active socialists are part of the working class.
When describing your personal ideals above not a single one of them was "part of the working class" and that your future career is one of the intelligentsia. So please forgive me if I take that at face value and assume you are not part of the working class.
I can't believe you honestly view those revolutions as playing out with the influence of no politics whatsoever.
I didn't say that they were carried out without the influence of any politics. I said that those Revolutions were not Maoist, Bolshevik, or Liberal. Those Revolutions were Proletarian and the politics were Proletarian.
The fact you've gotten so angry at me for actually pointing out that you probably have no involvement in genuine political struggle is telling.
You're a Liquidationist Trot and the only reason you're involved in these "political struggles" is to assuage your own bourgeois guilt.
Playing the game of "who's more Revolutionary" like "Do you even Lift Bro?" There's that Liberal/Identity Lifestylism.
Anyway almost all of your arguments seem to lend towards the working class not needing any form of working class organisation and just coming automatically to their own conclusions.
Yes, because I don't think the working class are morons who need to be disciplined into following the correct political path.
Sorry that's not even a correct use of the term "Liquidationist"
Liquidationism is the ideological liquidation of the revolutionary character of the Vanguard Party when the Party loses it's revolutionary roots to the working class. Stalinism, Trotskyism, Etc.
Every Revolution is the result of the working class democratically revolting, not because some bourgeois party that calls itself Socialist demanded it happen.
and also seems to ignore the fact that the bourgeoisie themselves have organisation and hegemony over the working class
Yeah, it's called The State.
but I'm also convinced you are a troll, because I've seen your ideas on the internet and there's nothing original about them
You Trots and Stalinists have been spouting the same ideas for over 100 years and have a success rate of Zero. It's a failure and the working class has turned against you so your only excuse is to assume that the working class are just stupid and need to be disciplined. You don't get to call someone else unoriginal. Your program of failure has remained the same for a century.
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