To be fair, it's not as bad as it looks. Also, S ranks are fairly easy to get (just no death runs basically).
It's more about memorization than reaction outside of your very first attempt at a stage.
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Sonic Generations - 4K resolution, Auto HDR, and FPS boost have rendered this dangerously close to a current-gen game
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It's more about memorization than reaction outside of your very first attempt at a stage.
Picked up Unleashed awhile ago for like $3 on a digital sale, but only started it now.
Oh god this game is miserable in so many ways. Just so much bloat and honestly, while Sonic stages run well and look pretty nice(the couple I've played so far), I think they are also a step behind even what Generations delivered for 3D Sonic. Just way too boost heavy and a feeling like I am not navigating or negotiating the stages.
Generations though…still a wonderful gem. Just cannot believe a sequel for this or Mania was not in planning for the 30th. Just wtf.
Oh god this game is miserable in so many ways. Just so much bloat and honestly, while Sonic stages run well and look pretty nice(the couple I've played so far), I think they are also a step behind even what Generations delivered for 3D Sonic. Just way too boost heavy and a feeling like I am not navigating or negotiating the stages.
Generations though…still a wonderful gem. Just cannot believe a sequel for this or Mania was not in planning for the 30th. Just wtf.
Sup, SonicEra!
Someone just said at this news:
"too bad it's generations"
"They probably think sonic adventure are good games too"
And I asked why they think these views and the reply was:
"classic sonic sux in it"
"boost gameplay"
What is your response!?
Someone just said at this news:
"too bad it's generations"
"They probably think sonic adventure are good games too"
And I asked why they think these views and the reply was:
"classic sonic sux in it"
"boost gameplay"
What is your response!?
to stop engaging in low effort bad faith discussions of the series on the internet
Honestly the Werehog is just God-of-War lite. They became pretty enjoyable after opening up the combat as you progress. It was a technical mess back in the day, so the fps boost might make it more palatable. I'd put it above Generations as an overall package, so if you find yourself craving more boost-Sonic, it's an incredible ride.
The art style helps a lot in this regard - I've been enjoying going through the game again (but I loved it the first time around too)
"Nobody asked you, fucko!" Then I backflip onto a skateboard, flip em the bird with both hands, and stare at them as I roll downhill into traffic, causing several accidents.
Yes as they don't have a Resetera Account haha.
I think they only like the classics and Mania...so really just the usual type of person you see here I guess.
A small pre production. I have no doubt the end result is going to look as good if not better than what we saw. They also made it clear that they were going to do major overhauls to the lightning, audio design, and most importantly the limb damage/reaction.
As someone that has played DS religiously, all of these changes will end up making this a much better experience, and just like the Mafia remake, it's going to make the original release redundant.
I just hope they include all the dlc in the game.
I don't think it will make the original release redundant. The original game still holds up and stands on its own.
To stop reading Resetera threads about Sonic that arent the community thread ;) But seriously, just ignore them. You'll get the usual stupid crap from people like "Sonic was never good" or "how do you even play Sonic" or "Sonic hasnt been good in decades..."
Same old crap that's reheated in all corners of the Internet including here. The "how do you even play Sonic" always confuses me, makes it sound like its some mechanically complex game with tons of different mechanics to juggle and sub systems to unlock and manage... you run, jump, and run some more. Then replay the levels several times to learn them more and more to become more proficient at said stages to get better times, find shortcuts etc. Its not rocket science...
Mafia's original release hasnt been replaced though... The remake - while actually good - still fumbled on a few areas including:
Character motivations somehow being worse than they were originally making certain plot twists worse in the remake
Cutting out much of the relaxing pre/post mission driving where you just soak in the atmosphere
Drastically cutting back on unlocking new cars/side missions while in the main story (I think some of that was shunted to the post game sandbox mode but really... I dont like the change)
Certain voice actors not being quite as good as the originals
Certain missions being changed slightly which have certain plot beats fall flat
Its a good remake, but there absolutely is reason to play the original again. Several in fact. Its like Yakuza or Resident Evil 2/3. Where the remakes do some good stuff, but drop the ball in other aspects so in several ways, the originals are still a viable and sometimes better alternative.
The answer is... both. Hence my confusion. I enjoy some sonic games but I can't really point to any particular reason why. I don't think it's the level design, or the game feel or even the aesthetics. It's definitely not because the platforming is interesting to me.
But as you've said, the games are at least partially designed around replayability, but i've never really gotten bitten by that bug so it leaves me wondering what is there in a 'one and done' experience for the sonic games... if anything.
Honestly it sounds like BS but if you let it, Unleashed can really grow on you. It is messy, super frustrating and mechanically Generations is just better, but Unleashed has a lot to love and a ton of unlockable content to return to. The medals will both irritate you and make you appreciate the level design a lot more.
Unleashed on a new save file is a 4/10. On a completed save file it's an 8 or 9/10. The main daytime stages for the most part are amazing to replay and go for S ranks. But yes the bloat and all the crap in the game makes for a miserable first experience. Unleashed is a game that will grow on you if you have the patience to let it. And I imagine with the fps update it's even better now.
Holy shit you weren't kidding, OP. I got the update but didn't know it made it 60 fps. Did a run through of Chemical Plant Act 2 and City Escape Act 2 and oh my fucking god. Fuck Colors, this is the premier Modern Sonic game now lol.
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I can confirm it looks and runs fantastically well on the Series S. Such a gigantic upgrade from the original 360 release, I'm having a great time trying out all these back compat additions and upgrades.
Anyone with an LG OLED try it out with black frame insertion. Crystal clear motion makes a huge difference in a game like this.
Anyone with an LG OLED try it out with black frame insertion. Crystal clear motion makes a huge difference in a game like this.
I can't get over how great this game is. Looks and runs incredibly on the Series S.
How did they never make a sequel?
How did they never make a sequel?
"how am i supposed to know to press the down button to roll" posts coming form the same people that primarily play a platformer than makes you hold the button you use for projectile and melee attacks to run always cracks me up
Welcome to the pain. Sega releasing this and Racing transformed within a year of each other and then promptly forgetting what made either game successful is one of the most puzzling, frustrating things in the franchises history.
Yeah, it was GWG. That's how I have it.
Now I'm just waiting for Unleashed to be GWG. lol
Does the 60 fps boost break some of the jumps in Generations?
(Skip to 15 seconds)
I tried this jump at least 5 times on Xbox and they all ended up in death. I booted it up on PC and got it in one. Sonic should swing onto a nearby platform and for whatever reason that just wasn't happening here.
(Skip to 15 seconds)
I tried this jump at least 5 times on Xbox and they all ended up in death. I booted it up on PC and got it in one. Sonic should swing onto a nearby platform and for whatever reason that just wasn't happening here.
I'm literally stuck on this exact section, is it doable on xbox?
At the very least, you can not take the hook and grind on the rail below. But if it isn't just a fluke, I'm freaking flabbergasted it hasn't been brought up seeing as it's one of two ways an a 50/50 path split.
Yeah, the Back Compat sale thread had me looking at this video again. It's amazing to me just how poorly it ran on launch and how well it does now.
I never bought this game, I got it from Games with Gold, and even though I friggen can't stand 3D Sonic games, I'm thinking about giving this one a shot.
Its so much more complex.
It depends mostly on artstyle.
Dependent on shaders that scale well? shure, higher render resolution and framerate, and youre golden.
Does it use a lot of intricate textures? eh, then its getting problematic.
Did it use a lot of textures to not render stuff (background, control consoles, etc)... then the game will look way worse in a higher resolution, sine you see that its all just a flat texture, and that one will be really soft.
Are the things it tried to present rather intricate, so that it would be visible that the models are relatively low res?
-> Remodeling is usually not an option. stuff like Sonic characters are rather simple (!= easy to make, tahts a different thing!)
Are the mechanics/physics coupled to framerate? then a lot of reengineering would need to happen.
Did it use a loot of low resolution models to have a lot on screen at once?
in higher resolution the amount of models wont be impressive today, but look partialy worse then back then.
Overall: if a game ticks a lot of those boxes, then there is a chance that a reasonable remaster would be a ton of work and a remake would not be far off.
Im with you that we gete to many remakes, and for many games remasteres would be 100% fine.
Its just that not all cases are that easy and would look great.
Me as a PS5 owner right now on this
Sega might do a remaster of it some day like with Sonic Colors, the sad thing is how slow they been about doing it.
Been wanting a 4k 60fps version of the Sonic racing games and Unleashed but who knows when those will happen.
Since the thread has been bumped, yep this happens 100% of the time. Sucks that it happens but I don't think Microsoft's backwards compatibility team can fix it since they don't mess with game code.
It's the only broken jump I've seen in the game. Not saying there aren't others but I haven't encountered them. I'm glad they didn't stop this mode being enabled due to this one bug, as annoying as it is.
I can't remember if there's a red coin on that route. If there is, you can disable the fps boost to get it. No ideal but it's the price we pay for 4k 60fps.
I wonder if the team on the pc port caught this issue, cause I don't actually see it happening there
I remember reading that the crane glitch did sometimes happen to some users on PC. The solution involved changing the application's processor affinity.
I suspect it could be fixed on Microsoft's end, but they'd need to
1. Know about it
2. See it as worth fixing.
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Good god!!
If you told me this was a new release and not a game from over a decade ago, I'd believe you!
Just completed it a few days ago. on the Series X Great art direction goes a long way. The game really doesn't need any remaster. I will say that I wasn't big on AutoHDR but everything else was on point. 4K60FPS was stunning.
I'm a bit mixed on the game itself but no doubt it looks amazing.
Unleashed is also 60fps on the series X. Although I wouldn't recommend that anyone actually plays Unleashed.
I'm a bit mixed on the game itself but no doubt it looks amazing.
Unleashed is also 60fps on the series X. Although I wouldn't recommend that anyone actually plays Unleashed.
