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Sony FY2019 Results - PS4: 13.6m (LTD: 110.4m) / FY19: 2nd best year ever for PlayStation / 41.5M PS+ Members & 66% Digital Ratio
- Thread starter ArmGunar
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Do they ever discuss software performance or do they not talk about that in the same way Nintendo and Capcom do?
66% digital ratio! I theorize Sony will be the one this time to push for online drm (probably more lax than oh xb1) for next gen. They've only said there will be physical media for PS5 games and not that the license is tied to the disc as it is now. Microsoft won't fight them on it as they want the same thing.
WiiU would be no 1 following the success of Wii, Xbox 720 will be a close second and PS4 dead last, followed by Sony exiting the console hardware entirely.
There's still time to pull it off, just need a perfectly timed cross gen release.
The one's that kinda mess up are R* with just 1 GTA release, but then again a remaster of V managed to keep them at the top of the charts an entire gen and will most likely continue to do it for the next one o_O
Sony's consumer electronic business (smarthpones, tv's, etc) isn't that strong, a lot of their profit comes from playstation and camera sensors for smartphone. Their stock value is around LG's one in comparison. Samsung is like way bigger, with being huge in making ram/ssd's and smartphones, they also sell way and way more tv's. Samsung is like triple the value of Sony. Panasonic is a third of the value of Sony.
..... wut.
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Damn, PS4 is beast indeed! The amount of money this thing has generated for Sony vs its previous home consoles (one of them that just happens to be the best selling console of all time) is ridiculous.
Samsung sells dam near everything so they don't compare to Sony, Samsung makes/made tanks
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Ahah yes, my forecast was underestimated for sure lol
If Jan-March is an all-time record, with lockdowns in April + The Last of Us Part II in June, I can't wait to see April-June numbers !
Thanks guys ;)
And no, there is no forecast for PS4 hardware
Indeed, didn't they make as much revenue in just the fy2018 as they did the entire PS2 gen? There's so much more money being tossed around these days and they get a cut of everything.
Probably software costs as well. Sony games are probably much bigger budget than Nintendo ones.
This worries me.
I won't switch to digital (only).
I like my tripe A game boxes!
I can't see the PS6 not being digital only now.
It's fucking awful but what the fuck can I do.
It's done.
Physical games will still be around. Ultimately B&M stores have to fill their shelves with stuff. I say this as someone who is digital only on PS4 and X1.
Wow, I was pretty optimistic about PS4 success, but even I would not bet one year into this gen that PS4 will stay ahead of PS2 curve for so long. Tremendous success for the Playstation team, and just imaging that the same team is now working on PS5 makes me pretty optimistic about that one too. :)
The main thing a lot of the numbers show is how engaged the entire fanbase is. With high software numbers and engagement
66% digital ratio is the most impressive stat. I'm part of the crowd. I'm already 100% digital.
Gonna be a real shame when the industry does go fully digital.
I like having my games physical for the most part and considering I usually get my new releases at least £10-£20 cheaper than PSN prices, its going to start costing me a lot more considering how many games I buy for my systems.
They will sell more digital if they fix psn plus subscribers that got a psnplus game be able to purchase it when it is in sales for plus subscribers...
Big decline in hardware (similar YoY percentage drop to Xbox Q3 FY20), which I suppose is a sign of the generation coming to an end for both these systems.
Huge increase in digital split. A surprising jump tbh.
So they're not only going to lock out a third of their consumers, they're also going to screw the very retail channels that they're going to rely on to promote and push their fancy new console in a few months time?
Huge increase in digital split. A surprising jump tbh.
So they're not only going to lock out a third of their consumers, they're also going to screw the very retail channels that they're going to rely on to promote and push their fancy new console in a few months time?
for a paid subscription service it seem great, that's steady cash from 1/3rd of the install
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I just added that PlayStation expect about 70% of FY19's Profit for their FY20, which gives about ¥167bn Profit ($1.52B)
That would be the 4th best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation (during a launch year of new hardware)
That would be the 4th best Operating Profit ever for PlayStation (during a launch year of new hardware)
Thanks !
Or, you know, they don't do that in order to not fuck over their retail partners either. Which they kinda need in order to sell their consoles at the very least.
Also not fuck over a 3rd of their customers either. Which, btw, refers only to this Quarter (and not overall for the year or the 6 years of the console).
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That's insane. Long seem to be the days where launching new hardware was basically a death sentence in profits in the near future.
What a flex. Launching and marketing a console usually costs $1B.
Yes, Plus still offers cloud saves on PS3 though. Idk what benefits it offers on Vita currently but I would imagine there are still some stragglers.
That revenue is generated due to the hardware sales though. Every game sold on PSN counts as revenue for Sony. How many people would subscribe to PS+ on a PC?
That's super interesting.
Looking at your graphs for the other console gen transitions:
PS2 -> PS3, from slight profit in FY05 to huge loss in FY06
PS3 - > PS4, from slight loss in FY12 to moderate loss in FY13.
Considering that PS4 will have an outstanding final year software wise (quarantine boost, FF7R, TLOU2, GoT), I'm surprised Sony is still projecting a 30% smaller profit this year. (maybe a hint that PS5 retail price will be lower than $499?)
Exactly. Until streaming services take off consoles are here to stay.
Sony and Nintendo both killing it, and Microsoft looking to go in strong next gen. Gaming is looking very healthy right now!
I am only part of the 665 digital because of account/Game sharing, Would switch back to physical instantly without that feature. Or if they had a gamepass of sorts.
I would add most of the revenue for Nintendo is first party generated so they are keeping more of their revenue in house whereas Sony is having to pay out up to 70% back to third parties. It's amazing all of the big three seem to be increasing profits and revenue simultaneously.