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Oct 25, 2017
30,086
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/michael-flynn-robert-mueller-fbi-sentencing-prison

WASHINGTON — Special counsel Robert Mueller is okay with a sentence that doesn't include any jail time for Michael Flynn — the former Trump national security adviser who pleaded guilty to lying to FBI agents in the Russia probe — according to a new court filing Tuesday night.

Flynn is scheduled for sentencing on Dec. 18, more than a year after he first appeared before a federal judge in Washington, DC, to enter his guilty plea. His deal with the government required him to cooperate with Mueller's office, and in Tuesday's filing, prosecutors said Flynn's offense was "serious," but that he deserved credit for accepting responsibility and "substantially assisting the government."

"Given the defendant's substantial assistance and other considerations set
forth below, a sentence at the low end of the guideline range — including a sentence that does not impose a term of incarceration — is appropriate and warranted," prosecutors wrote.

Flynn pleaded guilty on Nov. 30, 2017, to a single count of making false statements, a crime that has proven the downfall of other defendants who pleaded guilty in Mueller's investigation so far — former Trump attorney Michael Cohen, former deputy Trump campaign chair Rick Gates, former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, and Dutch lawyer Alex van der Zwaan, who had ties to Gates and former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort.

Making false statements carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000, but per Flynn's plea agreement with the government, his estimated sentencing range is between zero and six months in prison, given his lack of criminal history and assuming the government is satisfied with his cooperation and acceptance of responsibility.

Flynn is due to submit his own sentencing memo on Dec. 11. He's one of seven people to plead guilty in Mueller's investigation so far, and he'll be the fourth person sentenced to date.

The sentencing memo in Flynn's case kicks off a week of highly anticipated court filings by Mueller's office. Special counsel prosecutors are expected to weigh in by the end of the week about new allegations that Manafort lied to federal investigators after signing his plea deal and what sentence they recommend for Cohen.
 

Replicant

Attempted to circumvent a ban with an alt
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,380
MN
If he serves no jail time is sets a bad precedent. He needs to be punished for crimes.
 

KHarvey16

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,193
Max sentence was 6 months. Lots of jail time was never on the table.

Remember, he plead to one count of lying to the FBI.
 

Ithil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,397
If he serves no jail time is sets a bad precedent. He needs to be punished for crimes.
The precedent is "turn on your fellow crooks and get wrung out for all that you know for as long as the investigators want to avoid the punishment they will receive". I think it's an alright precedent.
 

BWoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
38,333
Flynn flipped HARD

For the record, here was Trump's transition team (and their "executive committee"):

Ben Carson, Chris Christie (previously head of the transition from May 2016 through election day), Michael Flynn(incoming National Security Advisor), Newt Gingrich, Rudy Giuliani, Jeff Sessions (incoming Attorney General), with the addition of K. T. McFarland (incoming Deputy National Security Advisor), Gov. Mary Fallin, Sen. Tim Scott, Rep. Marsha Blackburn (previously on the executive committee), Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, Rep. Tom Reed, and outgoing Rep. Cynthia Lummis.[
 

Soul Skater

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,201
Mueller doing this is really brilliant actually.

Trump has tried to do everything he can to signal to loyalists he'll pardon them if they stay that way. This is basically Mueller doing the same thing.

But he can't offer the security Mueller can.

Manafort was loyal and might die in prison. Everyone who knows anything should flip.
 

Vas

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,016
Substantial aid, eh? He gave it ALL up. And he has less incentive to hold out for a pardon when the deal is so nice.
 

Shoeless

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,001
Trump can't be happy about that. No one that participated in this can be happy about that.

All they can do now is accuse him of lying in court to get a reduced sentence, that's about the only play they have left. That and accuse him of being a traitor right from the start that manipulated them. They'll need to turn him and anyone else that folds into the puppet masters that orchestrated everything, and paint themselves as abused victims helpless to resist.
 

Sky Chief

Member
Oct 30, 2017
3,383
This is huge. They say that his testimony is also being used in non-Mueller led criminal cases. They're all getting indicted.

Also, this guy had a great record before getting involved with Trump. He has a lot more integrity than someone like Cohen.
 

Shokunin

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Oct 25, 2017
6,105
The city beautiful
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Common Knowledge

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,262
Who needs to hold out for Trump's pardon that may or may not ever come when you can flip on the fucker like he deserves and get off nearly completely?
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,636
Damn. No jail time? He must have just spilled everything and then some.
 

danm999

Member
Oct 29, 2017
17,153
Sydney
What happened to that business with him being accused of kidnapping Gulen to send him to Turkey.

Because lying to the FBI fine slap him on the wrist for that if he helps against Trump but uhh, that other stuff...
 

MattyG

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,031
Or it's a signal to others that it may be benificial to cooperate, and that a promise of a pardon isn't needed...
This^ Flynn is already publicly disgraced. Him sitting in a prison cell does nothing beyond give us a bit of a "fuck you" victory. The information they got from him and may now get from others who were holding out for pardons is FAR more valuable
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,466
As much as I hate that this shithead gets no jail time, I like the meaning behind it. People much worse than him are about to go down.
 

Yerffej

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,611
Maybe this is what Trump got wind of when he was tweeting about Mueller yesterday.