Spider-Man Miles Morales will support cross save between PS4 and PS5
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I can read it as you want, but they're giving a free upgrade with cross saves.
Spider-Man PS4 having a remaster is a different situation.
At the end of the day , we have games that don't transfer their saves with a PS5 upgrade and games that does.
This is confusing and should be explained why it's happening to users, so they know when they upgrade a game if their save will upgrade or not. We need more communication.
This is confusing and should be explained why it's happening to users, so they know when they upgrade a game if their save will upgrade or not. We need more communication.
Then again people that don't come here and check twitter don't care about this type of info.
I am not so familiar with the PlayStation architecture, most of my experience is with the Xbox platform. The idea of "transferring" your save is strange to me. Is this not something that synchronizes in the cloud?
The last game I transferred a save to was from Borderlands 2 when the next gen version came out; but that was a separate remaster. Is the Miles Morales PS4 version not the same game as the PS5 version? I thought Matt said PlayStation had a form of Smart Delivery.
The last game I transferred a save to was from Borderlands 2 when the next gen version came out; but that was a separate remaster. Is the Miles Morales PS4 version not the same game as the PS5 version? I thought Matt said PlayStation had a form of Smart Delivery.
Miles Morales PS4 and Miles Morales PS5 are 2 different games, you can buy each other on their own i can have a PS4 disc with that game and a PS5 disc with that game, It's really not different and neither hard to understand
But well, all companies can get away with shitty behaviors because people still pay regardless
I mean if you started on PS4 and upgrade to PS5 why would you go back to PS4.
Do they have a reason not to include cross-saves other than technical (which implies than the remaster is more significant than we might think)?
I know the use cases are low, but the ability to have my PS5 in the theater room and my PS4 in the bedroom and swap between them would be pretty cool.
Spiderman PS4 and Spiderman PS5 are different games. Just like The last of us and the last of us remastered.
My man, this is only starting, the first Digital Foundry report when one of them drops a frame or a pixel in comparison to the other... Be prepared for the first "Digital Foundry - Game X |OT2| Didn't have enough insults in the last one"
You either get free trophies or no trophies up to that save point if the second game has its own separate set of trophies.
I can see that. I'm planning to put my PS4 back in the box or sell it starting Nov 12.
Sony's version of (not so)smart delivery is to have completely separate versions that publishers can optionally link together using an entitlement system. If the two "different" games want to use the same save then it's up to the publisher to create a system for it.
Microsoft treats crossgen games as a single product with the same saves, same achievements, same DLC, etc. If a PS5 games does the free next-gen entitlement and goes out of its way to implement a bidirectional PS4<->PS5 save transfer system then it's "functionally" the same as smart delivery. The difference is that Microsoft supports and encourages these features at a basic system level.
Yes. I mean thats the obvious thing so if they fuck that up its a whole different thing. Your BC games should totally let you access your old saves.
99% sure BC games on PS5 will basically work like those games being shown on XSX over the last couple of days
The "concerned" madness will end when it's made clear that we won't be losing our save games for everything but a few very specific cross-gen titles. We've already had two examples of games being unable to support cross-save on PS5, whilst supporting it on Xbox; what's to say that every 'PS5 upgraded' title which isn't cross-gen will face the same issue? Will Cyberpunk saves carry over when the PS5 version comes out next year? What about TLoU:P2 saves in the rare chance they don't make us pay for a 'Remaster'? What about Avengers, which is a massive time-sink GaaS that saves locally; will people have to start again when the PS5 upgrade releases? We simply don't know, and Sony has yet to clarify anything in regards to that.
At the end of the day Sony's competitor is offering something much more consumer-friendly and clear than they are, and it's not console warring or platform trolling to point that fact out. We shouldn't just stop demanding Sony do better with this sort of stuff simply because some people think it's "madness," to do so.
Nope. Shit will hit the fan with the first data sales from UK, Japan and America, the Digital Foundry 400% zoom faceoffs, the new acquisition announcements and speculations...
The first two years of any console generation always bring out the worst from any gaming comunity.
Thank you for elaborating, this is generally what I expected, and feared.
I wish the best to anyone jumping into this platform day one, but I'm staying away with a 60ft pole.
By the way if you're looking at doing this then I don't think getting the PS5 version will be a good idea. AFAIK it seems like PS5 versions of cross-gen games won't work on PS4 (I may be wrong, but I've yet to find any evidence to the contrary), so if you get Miles Morales for PS5 it'll be locked to that console.
A very good point! I'm probably not going to do this myself, but the option would be nice for people who would.
I could be wrong but we havent heard anything from ubisoft on the Playstation side of things about cross save. (Xbox versions uses smart delivery so that part is covered)
So....I get that Spidey 2018 is getting a remaster, and that it's "a different game/sku" and that's why the saves won't transfer over. But, I wonder: I was expecting that Miles PS4 to Miles PS5 would also benefit from an equal facelift. That Miles PS5 is just as much a jump over Miles PS4 as the Remaster will be over Spidey PS4.
Get what I'm saying? It's odd for the saves to work cross-platform in one case, and not in the other, imo. Is it because they're desigining it with cross-save in mind, and it's just too much trouble to try and make that work retroactively on Spidey PS4?
Get what I'm saying? It's odd for the saves to work cross-platform in one case, and not in the other, imo. Is it because they're desigining it with cross-save in mind, and it's just too much trouble to try and make that work retroactively on Spidey PS4?
How will Sony clarify this with every game. It's just like people who want a list of the 99% of games that are BC. If the complaint is there isn't a unified system for game saves complain away but it seems the complaint is the need to "clarify". I just don't know what there is to clarify which I stated in my original post.
Is this a personal attack? I've owned every PlayStation console since the PS2. No need for that.
At this point, I think they just need to release footage of Spiderman Remastered so people can stop complaining about it being a port or that it should be free.
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Then we'll get people saying this doesn't look all the different.
I don't care how when they should do it anyway. You shouldn't have to draft up a business strategy meeting to hold the opinion that Sony shouldn't be leaving publishers to be the bearers of bad news that they, through their own poor planning, made happen in the first place. This is Sony's own goal here, not third parties'.
I hate that you're both right
I'm getting my "they're the same picture" meme ready to go.
Maybe Miles was developed with cross-gen in mind and so cross-save is possible, while Spider-Man wasn't, so it can't transfer saves to Remastered?
I thought the confusion was around the whole Spider-Man PS5/remaster vs Spider-Man PS4 thing and the saves not transferring between the two?
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To even come close to stopping Spider-Man: Remastered would have to at least be noticeably superior to the free updates being given for other game. If Microsoft shows off Forza Horizon 4's next-gen update and it's got most of the same improvements that Spider-Man: Remastered has then, boy, that argument is never going to end lol
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Microsoft has the luxury of porting their PC specific graphical features to the Series X.
Sony isn't in the same position with their hardware exclusive.
And yet there were plenty of PS3 to Vita cross save games with their own trophy lists.
Few of the excuses hold water really, Sony just wants to sell the remaster as it's own separate thing and avoid giving a free update to existing owners.
I'll just leave it there. You seem to be taking your beef with Sony up with me. For their entire existence Sony's policy has been "it's up to the publishers" for nearly everything.
I don't know if Cross-save is the right term. Ideally that's how it would work, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a save transfer from ps4 to ps5.
As for Spiderman remastered, I imagine part of the difference is it being a remastered game with all of the DLC and a different trophy list. The same as The Last of Us Remastered at the beginning of this gen.
As for Spiderman remastered, I imagine part of the difference is it being a remastered game with all of the DLC and a different trophy list. The same as The Last of Us Remastered at the beginning of this gen.
Even if this were exactly how you put it, the value for consumers doesn't change. They'd still be paying for a marginally better experience that people on another console can get for free. I'd liken it to full-priced Switch 3rd-party ports; yeah, I get why the publisher priced them that way, but I still don't think the price is any good.
(Though with this I can't imagine that a lot of the work wasn't already done when creating Miles Morales. It's set in the same city, uses the same engine, and features many of the same characters, after all)
"Beef with Sony?"
I'm buying a Playstation 5 day one alongside two of Sony's first-party launch games. I won't be buying a Series X at launch, however.
The primary reason I care so much about this cross-save/next-gen upgrade stuff is that Sony's first-party titles and third-party exclusives are some of my favourite games around, whilst Microsoft's games are simply not on the same level at all.
Making this out to be some console war thing to discredit the fact that your only real argument is that "Sony couldn't and won't change, so get used to it," won't convince anyone.
I find it insulting that people think Sony is a good guy instead of a compny driven by greed like all capitalist companies. Sony ain't your friend bud. You are just a trick
