That image is deliberately misleading and comes from 4chan.
The Japanese Support is platonic too.
But I'm sure no one will actually pay attention to this and keep on being indignant.
First time I have seen this, hope it's true.
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[spoilers] So what's this about dating/romancing an 11-year old girl in the new Fire Emblem Engage?
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First time I have seen this, hope it's true.
That's not the text that is currently on display in the non-localized version though...That image is deliberately misleading and comes from 4chan.
The Japanese Support is platonic too.
But I'm sure no one will actually pay attention to this and keep on being indignant.
That image is deliberately misleading and comes from 4chan.
The Japanese Support is platonic too.
But I'm sure no one will actually pay attention to this and keep on being indignant.
Uh, if this is true then basically the entire discussion here is moot? There's nothing wrong with this whatsoever and that basically makes the image in OP an elaborate troll.
The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
Zelda is purposely written as a fairytale style kind of story. Not a war story.
Is this actually in the non-localized version? Or was all that text edited in the image in the OP by 4chan?
While it's true it may have been posted like that to give angry reactions, the overall point still stands, they are basically dancing around you grooming and dating a 11 year old.
Yeah, I read it like a little kid going to a grown up saying "I want to marry you" and getting an answer like "oh, you're still too young for me" or something.
But analyzing it better, if that's what they meant, it's poorly written and creepy.
Most Zelda games are literally about Ganon conquering Hyrule and taking over.
Fire Emblem is anime and fantasy as well - i dont think anyone is playing this and thinking these magicians are supposed to mirror real life conflicts.
The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
If the "even if its still too young for us to be lovers" part is real i dont think its as out of context as youre implying, no, even if it starts with this comedic undertone
Fire Emblem Engage is a cartoon SRPG about a bunch of anime people with magic powers fighting against zombie monsters and an evil dragon.
I don't think this is a "war story" as people would usually think of it.
I'm more inclined to believe creepy anime game is creepy than someone being like, "Well ACTUALLY the translation is wrong." Sorry.That image is deliberately misleading and comes from 4chan.
The Japanese Support is platonic too.
But I'm sure no one will actually pay attention to this and keep on being indignant.
It really does not matter and she did not design them on her own in a vacuum without input or approval from others. Most character artists as far as I've ever read do not get free reign to design characters however they want. This has been a consistent point brought up by people with regards to Kozaki's role in the designs for Awakeing/Fates. There is an Art Director and others who provides design requests and direction of what characters they want and details about them. Whether ultimately drawn or designed by a man or woman these characters really aren't great.
I kinda pity the "anime avatars" who constantly complain about "censorship", because it always ends the same. When you ask what got censored, it's always weird creepy shit like this.
Person A: "CENSORSHIP IS BAD!"
Person B: "Yeah, censorship can be bad. I agree. What got censored?"
Person A: "They removed the marriage dialogue for this 11 year old girl character."
Person B: 😐😐😐😐😐
Person A: "CENSORSHIP IS BAD!"
Person B: "Yeah, censorship can be bad. I agree. What got censored?"
Person A: "They removed the marriage dialogue for this 11 year old girl character."
Person B: 😐😐😐😐😐
its so weird that they chose for THIS to be the one in which Anna can be romanced, but not the previous one where she is an adult.
Did the Fire Emblem Fates creative team work on this? The awful story, bad writing and well, overall creepiness is something that was very much present and actually worse in FE Fates.
Did the Fire Emblem Fates creative team work on this? The awful story, bad writing and well, overall creepiness is something that was very much present and actually worse in FE Fates.
The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
okay, that is better than what the pictures in the OP was implying.
Yes, this game shares a lot of key staff with Fates, the head writer of Engage was one of Fates' main writers too.
The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
The first and second line translations are still correct as far as I can tell.
MC uses the word "koibito" which means lover
I was under the impression that there are no romances in this game because there's no S-rank social links?
Takes out the what now?The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
I mean XC3 just did this (sorta, since their tube people with accelerated maturation) with a decent deal of depth and nuance. Like when the party finally meets regular humans and are like "what are babies?" "what are novels?", etc. It's both funny and tragic.
Afaik romance still exists but only for the MC, and its a separate event after you give them this ring later in the game, not a S rank
Sorry, what are you trying to imply here, exactly? That she might not want to design characters this way and that higher ups are making her?
If that's true, to clarify further, the character designer in question: Mika Pikazo, kind of does draw these characters on her own. Along with other characters from different shows And games.
She's a very popular designer for VTubers and posts her art regularly on her own personal Twitter account and Instagram. Her extravagant and colorful style is what she's known for.
Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz) • Instagram photos and videos
75K Followers, 36 Following, 128 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz)
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Like, take a look at her works here.
Yeah, I noticed that too. My read on the middle line, as an extremely out of practice translator, is definitely along the lines of "well if we can't be lovers yet, maybe we can be partners instead..."
Someone with far more experience and knowledge than me could probably get a better translation though.
You only get to S-support one character and you do so by giving them a ring. In a game called Fire Emblem ENGAGE. The subtext is so loud it makes Broly seem like a whisper.
Here's a timestamp of an elected Tokyo official defending and arguing for protection of pedophilic content in media
NSFW obviously
Inside the Pedophilic Manga Industry in Japan
A loophole in Japan’s law on child abuse material allows artists to freely draw sex with children. Despite a growing number of nations moving to ban this fic...
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I know full well who she is and her other works and no I'm not saying she didn't want to draw them like this. I'm saying she didn't design them alone, there was input and approval from others in the process, and even if she had done it all alone the fact that she is a woman doesn't really change the problematic nature of them.Sorry, what are you trying to imply here, exactly? That she might not want to design characters this way and that higher ups are making her?
If that's true, to clarify further, the character designer in question: Mika Pikazo, kind of does draw these characters on her own. Along with other characters from different shows And games.
She's a very popular designer for VTubers and posts her art regularly on her own personal Twitter account and Instagram. Her extravagant and colorful style is what she's known for.
Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz) • Instagram photos and videos
75K Followers, 36 Following, 128 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz)
Like, take a look at her works here.
That image is deliberately misleading and comes from 4chan.
The Japanese Support is platonic too.
But I'm sure no one will actually pay attention to this and keep on being indignant.
Love you tried to say "actually is not as bad as it looks" but the intent is basically the sameThe lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
There was a reason it was changed in localization
How is it possible to misread something this poorly?Sorry, what are you trying to imply here, exactly? That she might not want to design characters this way and that higher ups are making her?
If that's true, to clarify further, the character designer in question: Mika Pikazo, kind of does draw these characters on her own. Along with other characters from different shows And games.
She's a very popular designer for VTubers and posts her art regularly on her own personal Twitter account and Instagram. Her extravagant and colorful style is what she's known for.
Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz) • Instagram photos and videos
75K Followers, 36 Following, 128 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Mika Pikazo (@mika_pikazo_mpz)
Like, take a look at her works here.
The lines in the OP are real, but they're being deliberately put out of context.
The support goes something like "Alear takes out the ring, Anna thinks they're proposing and says she's too young, Alear clarifies that they're actually asking to be trade partners".
That last line is closer to "Someone very important to me" than "significant other".
Significant Other is a common read of 大切な人. I'd say it leans more towards the possibility of being one-sided is all. It's an incredibly strong statement either way. And you're still introducing them to the family because...??
Here's a bazillion examples with English translation if you want to see how most of them lean.
Its less blatant but its still the same subtext. They're toying with pedo stuff the way Anime used to (still often does) bait gay relationships rather than showing them outright.
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I really wish someone would translate the whole thing with all the context possible because everything about the romances in this game has been shitposted to death by 4chan types since before the game is out. I'm sure the picture in the OP is directly from 4chan.
Regardless of the full context in this particular instance, the slide into dating sim Fire Emblem has experienced, gives me more and more pause as time goes on.
Nintendo has pretty ruthlessly leveraged this angle to increase the series popularity. They know who they're catering to.
For my part it is wearing very thin.
Nintendo has pretty ruthlessly leveraged this angle to increase the series popularity. They know who they're catering to.
For my part it is wearing very thin.
I'm 100% for this creepy shit to disappear. Game is fantastic, but the sexualization is unbearable.
Just to be clear here, which character designs in Engage are you finding to be problematic?
I'm looking at all of them myself and I'm struggling to find which ones would stand out to be that way.
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Do you want to elaborate on this, since there's still some conversation in the thread about how accurate the picture is?
Or are we just drive-by defending underage grooming?
Unless the actual Japanese text is fabricated, I don't see anything off about the literal translations, per se. I don't know the context. But the second one doesn't sit right with me with or without context. Why write a scenario like this to begin with...?
I've read the more nuanced explanation by a poster in this thread and to be honest it's not really the exoneration certain people are trying to say it is.
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Can you help us out then? Can you translate more of the text? Is there some more context? Because I'd totally be ok with the game NOT sexualizing minor in case you were wondering.
This isn't going to get any better considering we've already heard what the best argument is from both sides by now. Everything inbetween is either down to accuracy or interpretation, and that doesn't really fix the general scenario.
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