If its completely compatible with swtich 1 library, cant see how it can be another wiiu but will see.
If its completely compatible with swtich 1 library, cant see how it can be another wiiu but will see.
I said there's zero chance it comes to Xbox in Japan on Day 1. Which yeah maybe not zero, I guess, but I kind of doubt it
I wasn't saying it used the same amount of money as mainline FF I was just assuming it is categorized as AAACan't comment on Granblue but Tales and Yakuza have always been a much lower budget series compared to something like Final Fantasy.
Yakuza especially reuses so many assets to be able to come out nearly annually. That low budget charm is part of why I like the series honestly. Basically prepare yourself for Yagami to somehow be in Hawaii for Judgment 3.
but would ER be considered AAAWait till you find out ER didn't have anything close to an AAA budget.
According to Miyazaki they release AA games and reuse a bunch of stuff. People conflate them with AAA because they're popular and good.I wasn't saying it used the same amount of money as mainline FF I was just assuming it is categorized as AAA
just like how for example you have games like Rift Apart being AAA but also Ragnarok also being AAA too
although maybe those JRPGs are even less in budget then the former (Rift Apart) but is still under AAA
first time I was told they are AA which is surprising to me at least
but would ER be considered AAA
idc about budgets being the same, I was talking about what companies deem as AAA and not AAA
I wasn't saying it used the same amount of money as mainline FF I was just assuming it is categorized as AAA
just like how for example you have games like Rift Apart being AAA but also Ragnarok also being AAA too
although maybe those JRPGs are even less in budget then the former (Rift Apart) but is still under AAA
first time I was told they are AA which is surprising to me at least
but would ER be considered AAA
idc about budgets being the same, I was talking about what companies deem as AAA and not AAA
yeah it is about the range and I'd assume the range covers those games but I guess notwell budgets are how companies categorize what they deem AAA, its just a shortterm for big budget - and yea theres a range there
They are indeed paying for it, that's why you're seeing this in their trailer:
Exclusivity means you can't even talk about the game going somewhere else until that date, let alone actually releasing it. It also leaves enough of a window for SE or whoever to determine whether or not it will be worth it to port.That's timed though. Is Rebirth coming to Xbox on 5.29? no. And Remake still hasn't but was supposed to. They're just never putting them out on Xbox, regardless of being paid for perpetuity.
I mean, until now apparently. I guess they are changing their minds.
We may have to wait until the end of life of these games. FF16 still has its release on PC and other consoles. The sameOr that, as I said, Final Fantasy is their biggest historic IP and that this IP in particular, combined with the fact that these 2 releases are likely their biggest titles in history, underperformed and keeps performing worse each time ?
Yeah I do think part 3 will almost certainly be a timed exclusive, probably for a long time for consoles.tbh Squares deal with Sony is mostly timed exclusivity based on past experiences, though i gurantee part 3 of ff7 remake trilogy will be ps5 exlcusive for at least 3 months and once its out on pc.
Also think FF7R Part 3 will still be timed exclusive, but FF17 probably won't. I'm sure they're working on that game already.Yeah I do think part 3 will almost certainly be a timed exclusive, probably for a long time for consoles.
I am laughing because the expectation that Switch 2 will be powerful enough to support the next mainline Final Fantasy is silly. The TDP is just not there on any chip on the market and is still far away. I doubt even FSR/DLSS can make up for it. Just look at the Ally or the Deck for frame of reference where the tech is.
Switch 2 would be a great target for an FFIX remake, too.If they make the next FF with the Switch 2 in mind, there's no reason why it won't be. I get FF has been chasing (relatively) bleeding edge for a bit, but if they aren't meeting their sales expectations/losing money they probably are going to scale back. They've ported plenty of stuff to the normal Switch that wasn't originally designed for it too, and Switch 2 will be more powerful. SE is going to want/need Switch 2 money more than the other way around.
Plus, SE has very few games in their roster that they can classify as "major titles being developed for Nintendo platforms" right now. I'll say it again: if they truly want to grow the FF brand, they are going to need to reach as many people as they can. That almost certainly means treating the Switch 2 seriously.
We may have to wait until the end of life of these games. FF16 still has its release on PC and other consoles. The same
for FF7 remake which still has the released on other consoles.
I think the only thing SE was missing with FF7R was PC launch also. If we think that Sony gave a lot of money to SE for some timed exclusivity, I find it hard to imagine it being less than the amount of money they would have got for releasing on Xbox too.
And you have to place that context alongside other titles.You can compare sales on a timeframe.
FFXV sold 5 million copies on day one.
FFVII Remake sold 3.5 million copies in the first week. It took 4 months to reach 5 million copies.
XVI sold 3 million copies in the first week. We never got an update on sales, after nearly a year.
VII Rebirth never had a PR for sales and reports indicate it's on track to do half of what Remake did, meaning it may not have sold 3 million copies yet.
VII Remake sold 7 million copies after 3 years and a half.
XV sold 7.7 million copies after a year and a half and over 9 million copies in the same timeframe as VII Remake.
Come on SE, I want FFXIII, FFXIII-2, FFXV and FFXVI for Switch 2. If you can make it work that FFXIV MMO gets released for Nintendo, sure why not too. Want those games moreso than the FFVII remakes.
I really would not get my hopes up. It makes way more sense if it's a "where applicable" situation. Switch 2 while an upgrade will probably still not be in the same ballpark as the current consoles and it's releasing possibly 4 years into the Series and PS5. You really just have to look at Capcom for what the playbook is here. They will attempt to get all their games to all platforms including Switch 2 and the ones that require the higher fidelity will be on all the platforms that can support it PlayStation, Xbox, PC.If they make the next FF with the Switch 2 in mind, there's no reason why it won't be. I get FF has been chasing (relatively) bleeding edge for a bit, but if they aren't meeting their sales expectations/losing money they probably are going to scale back. They've ported plenty of stuff to the normal Switch that wasn't originally designed for it too, and Switch 2 will be more powerful. SE is going to want/need Switch 2 money more than the other way around.
Plus, SE has very few games in their roster that they can classify as "major titles being developed for Nintendo platforms" right now. I'll say it again: if they truly want to grow the FF brand, they are going to need to reach as many people as they can. That almost certainly means treating the Switch 2 seriously.
Luminous engine is not yet ported to Switch ecosystem which would be the key roadblock, but i think this announcement pretty much say they will be ported that engine over now if there is any future to the engine. Worth noting specialty engines of SE's contempories (Capcom's RE engine and EA's Frostbite have all made it to Switch now and is certainly means a Switch 2 branch of those engines will just build up for future ports)based on rumoured specs .... xvi... yeah no... or get ready for a really bad version of it.
based on rumoured specs .... xvi... yeah no... or get ready for a really bad version of it.
I really would not get my hopes up. It makes way more sense if it's a "where applicable" situation. Switch 2 while an upgrade will probably still not be in the same ballpark as the current consoles and it's releasing possibly 4 years into the Series and PS5. You really just have to look at Capcom for what the playbook is here. They will attempt to get all their games to all platforms including Switch 2 and the ones that require the higher fidelity will be on all the platforms that can support it PlayStation, Xbox, PC.
Luminous engine is not yet ported to Switch ecosystem which would be the key roadblock, but i think this announcement pretty much say they will be ported that engine over now if there is any future to the engine. Worth noting specialty engines of SE's contempories (Capcom's RE engine and EA's Frostbite have all made it to Switch now and is certainly means a Switch 2 branch of those engines will just build up for future ports)
They specifically called out Nintendo platforms for a reason in the financials, their beggest games don't show up there and it looks like it will be changing
And you have to place that context alongside other titles.
In Japan, FFXV's opening week sales were the worst the series had ever seen and a month later, it pushed above 1 million.
Had XVI opened its first month with 1M sales in Japan, we'd be looking at well over 4M/ nearly 5M worldwide after less than a year. Not great, but much better. Similar story here with Rebirth, which has only recently gotten over 400k in sales. We might be looking at 3M by now.
Japan's sliding away from Playstation and push toward mobile and Switch has been a huge thorn in SE's side for some time. And you have general industry contraction/monopolization via the Big 5 games.
I don't really know what they do about it other than multi-platform releases.
Okay I lol'd at the summer school comment.Must be a summer school class.
I probably shouldn't have said 'zero chance,' but yeah I kind of doubt even with this new multiplatform strategy they probably will prioritize Xbox day 1 for a game like DQ, especially in Japan if it releases there first. Like I said before they aren't necessarily going to have day 1 on everything just like not every game is going to release on Switch 2 day 1 due to needing more work because of the fidelity of the product.
I guess acknowledging that Square did multiplat releases before and may not be day 1 on every platform in every region from now one is too controversial
Sounds like a good idea SE.
I'm gonna laugh so hard if in the next generation, publishers finally just bite the bullet and develop games based on Nintendo hardware and then scale up to PS/XB. I guess showing up late is better than not at all. Hahaha.
I'll be happy to buy FF7 on pc/switch if it comes but I'm not paying full price for old ports and I'll skip part 3 entirely if I don't get a crack at discounted 1 and 2 first. That, or ideally, I'd buy a FF7 whole package day 1 on pc/switch 2. I hope they go that route.
Not if you live in 2/3 the World's countries apparently...
I don't know if this was posted earlier or not.
Good news for those worried it's only AAA from here on out. Better to have a few quality AA titles than a whole bunch of questionable failures.