I don't understand how you can read ATP's flip and not assume BoJack is town. The role just... doesn't work if Picard has a whole other (scum) chat to talk in.
I want to sleep on this. Someone is in the chat and I am thinking about whether I should reveal it. Now wee is dead, it's not info I want to die with me. But I want to see how things pan out a little.
Fate was a feeling I got at End of Day 3. I think I mentioned feeling off about him then, but his jumpyness weirded me out. He tagged me a couple times when LP claimed doctor and my initial reaction was (...?) because I was already voting Blarg and found it weird that he seemed to be reluctant to vote for someone he was scum reading all day but instead call other people clownshoes. What's given me pause is that he did say to vote Blarg up when he began gaining traction.This is interesting because some of the scum in your list I would say absolutely no to. What is it about those three?
Middle of D3.
Sorry, With the way this series is, I can't discount that the mafia could be comprised on multiple groups but all under the "mafia" banner.The scum team are Romulans. We don't need to worry about the Borg.
I have no idea what the state of the canon is these days.
Maybe not exactly solidly against as scum, but all three of your scum reads I have in at least a "not now" list.Fate was a feeling I got at End of Day 3. I think I mentioned feeling off about him then, but his jumpyness weirded me out. He tagged me a couple times when LP claimed doctor and my initial reaction was (...?) because I was already voting Blarg and found it weird that he seemed to be reluctant to vote for someone he was scum reading all day but instead call other people clownshoes. What's given me pause is that he did say to vote Blarg up when he began gaining traction.
Like I said above, Random is mostly PoE. When I put aside everyone I don't want to deal with now and who I town read, I have him to investigate.
Royal's vote history makes me think he's trying to avoid wagons. His activity is fine, he said he was busy and I believe that, but LP-HP-LP is an easy tunnel to hide in.
Who are you solidly against being scum?
*flashback to eastenders*I just hate having a flavour cop and them have seemingly nothing to do otherwise.
Where are you looking first? HP?Maybe not exactly solidly against as scum, but all three of your scum reads I have in at least a "not now" list.
Royal in particular I think stepped up a lot yesterday now they have the time to post, but I would have to reread to see if it has merit. Random is similar, I liked their energy right out of the gate when they replaced in. Fate maybe I could see myself agreeing with after an ISO, but it's not where I'd look first.
I'll be very sad if my PR is fluff. Understanding, but sad.Sorry, With the way this series is, I can't discount that the mafia could be comprised on multiple groups but all under the "mafia" banner.
I can't just say its Romulans, I just can't. It wouldn't make sense.
Why have an empath then? They should be able to determine greed (Ferengi), Emotionless (borg), Romulan (ferocity) or whatever ATP was.
Until all the scum team flips as romulans, I am not going to assume that they all are. Its just flavor afterall. I just hate having a flavour cop and them have seemingly nothing to do otherwise.
Get any results last night?
Yes. I know people have been dogpiling on them and they're feeling shitty about it, but I have to put that aside. I said a couple of days ago I wanted to pick up loose threads from D1 but got distracted by anex. Should have stuck with my original plan. HP and LP are in my POE right now because I don't know if I believe day 1 was TvTvTvT.
considering some roles in this game, id be more belieavble to your role being just fluff
Yeah, I scanned LP last night.
Okay. So what do you make of HPs 2-shot DV? Scum utility?Yes. I know people have been dogpiling on them and they're feeling shitty about it, but I have to put that aside. I said a couple of days ago I wanted to pick up loose threads from D1 but got distracted by anex. Should have stuck with my original plan. HP and LP are in my POE right now because I don't know if I believe day 1 was TvTvTvT.
Eh, it's NAI to me. It could go either way in a role madness. I've not taken that into consideration in my thoughts on him.
Well, okay. Then what are you looking at in this case?Eh, it's NAI to me. It could go either way in a role madness. I've not taken that into consideration in my thoughts on him.
I mean, if I was in a private chat with a claimed multi-shot or unlimited investigative role that revealed a result N1 I sure as hell would get suspicious if there weren't more results rolling it...Do we know that wee revealed that the role was one shot in that chat?
Anex (confirmed Town) blocks HP and there is no NK that night. How can we not check this, Double vote or not?
His general contribution to this game.
interesting
Though I will say, he did give this full reads list yesterday that I want to look at some more. Compared to anex's there were some wild differences, not that it necessarily means anything.Wee
Bojack
You
Malus
Random
Vere
Zipped
Ephi
Anex/LP
Jman
Royal
Can't really separate Anex and LP. I'd probably drop LP to joint bottom with Royal if it wasn't for the fact that he has claimed doctor
if you read yesterday, HP used his ability and wasted itAnex (confirmed Town) blocks HP and there is no NK that night. How can we not check this, Double vote or not?
LP has posted since day start, can you quote to them refusing?Scum apparently doesn't bother to even try to kill the claimed doc (according to Zipped whose claim is consistent with at least yesterday's behavior), our cop is dead, the "doc" refuses to even acknowledge that this is weird and in general just avoids to engage with anything about last night. How is this not fishy as hell?
11 left, 3 scum. So we got 2 more misvotes until myvo? That's an uphill battle.
Scum allegedly has a switcher that messed with wee's check, so if they switch their kill target with someone else, Zipped goes elsewhere and scum shoots who they want.
I think anex was a good pick for the vote yesterday. It's unfortunate he was town and perhaps everyone was biased against him, but the evidence there was pretty compelling.
Votes would move after a doctor claim. There was a chance that Blarg could've been the alternative if people felt strongly about HP. Blarg wasn't around to vote either.
Look at the votes at the end. We went after anex because he was the last remaining vote on HP. The HP wagon almost completely disappeared. Scum had little to no influence on the vote, and that unpredictability means that you'd prefer to sacrifice the guy leading rather than the quiet teammate who could've been the alternative. Heck, the same thing happened with Launch: he was in contention, wasn't around, was pushed to the front and voted out.
Plus even if I survived and HP died, then what? Just look at the past couple days, I'm still getting votes. No chance I would've lived much longer.
You know what I'm thinking about? Jman. He didn't play like a miller. He didn't do much at all. I remember he felt very strongly that HP was town on D2, and that's about it. On D3 he voted me in like the first 10 minutes of the day and didn't move it. Even in his exchange with wee, he didn't claim or hint at his role. What's to say Nat didn't check scum chat upon replacing in and see his teammates say "fake claim miller, you can hand wave the delay and say it was jman being jman".
I also thought about malus. While he voted for Blarg, it was while HP was getting into the lead and it's not impossible that he went for the bus and accidentally ended up looking townie when the swing happened. And fake claiming a BP vest that scum won't test is a good way to discredit a claimed doctor. He also didn't do much after tunneling me for 3 days. But I can't reconcile that with his public poker action which can't be anything but town, so I'll accept that he's town and telling the truth.
I'm not doubting HP has a more-than-1-shot Double-Vote. I'm doubting this necessarily makes him Town.if you read yesterday, HP used his ability and wasted it
LP has posted since day start, can you quote to them refusing?
I have trust issues, I'm trying to work out how to separate the more spurious reasons for suspicion from ones that might actually have basis.
Sorry, With the way this series is, I can't discount that the mafia could be comprised on multiple groups but all under the "mafia" banner.
I can't just say its Romulans, I just can't. It wouldn't make sense.
Why have an empath then? They should be able to determine greed (Ferengi), Emotionless (borg), Romulan (ferocity) or whatever ATP was.
Until all the scum team flips as romulans, I am not going to assume that they all are. Its just flavor afterall. I just hate having a flavour cop and them have seemingly nothing to do otherwise.
To me that implies the Romulans are the mafia, not that they're just part of it 🤷You are Commander Sela, the Godmother and Tracker, and are aligned with the Romulans (Mafia).
Can't wait for whoever doesn't go first to get called out for potentially adjusting based on whoever does 👀Lone_Prodigy if you aren't going to full claim, can you at least give us your flavour so we can compare it with Vere's flavour check?
I'm devil's advocating thing one.Anex (confirmed Town) blocks HP and there is no NK that night. How can we not check this
im not afraid of posting my feelings if they are just empty and hollow,y pushing your scum reads (you've been scum reading me all freaking game, and your case is that I have no scum reads. Whatever).
i didnt want us to end up on different wagons"wait we should coordinate this" to put it off when voting for Blarg actually mattered.
That's a fair line of reasoning if you want to get to the bottom of his play but I somewhat doubt you're going to get anything out of HP right now. So you'll likely have to go off of the case you put work in.His general contribution to this game.
Sorry HP wherever you are, but their contribution as town hasn't stacked up the last few days. I wanted to do an ISO yesterday and dig into those feelings, specifically looking at his reads and giving him credit where due, but it was lacking and I felt it wasn't worth posting. I still want to try to do it again to put the case forward, but in short, he's spent most of the last couple of days lamenting that people are on his back without trying to solve. The "giving up" feeling he's giving off reminds me a lot of what Geno did as scum in Scooby Doo 2. Most of his reads have been prompted by others as well, all the way back to D1.
If you're legitimately feeling shit and hating this HP, I'm sorry. But it can look like he's skating by on this glum attitude and people feeling sorry for him. If he's town, then he should try to solve today period. ISO someone, put a case together, anything.
I came away from this post feeling that those initial people you mentioned (Fate/HP/Jtiko) are a cloud of 'I don't know' for you, is that right? You ended your vote on Zipped yesterday, is he still your scum read?I have trust issues, I'm trying to work out how to separate the more spurious reasons for suspicion from ones that might actually have basis.
I can scum read a hell of a lot of things you've done (Your hostility, trying to take advantage of people townreading ATP for his. Your flightiness with regards to actually pushing your scum reads (you've been scum reading me all freaking game, and your case is that I have no scum reads. Whatever). Your pushes to vote for Blarg and then your "wait we should coordinate this" to put it off when voting for Blarg actually mattered.) but I still haven't decided if I actually am.
Same thing for HP, where his lack of engagement with the game has allowed him to draw connections to approximately no-one.
Or Jman's lack of visible solving, lack of visible stances, lack of pushing. His stationary voting. Also Wee calling out Nat's what's going on-ing as scummy, though I don't actually know if it is.
I can also rationalise some of those away.
I want to try and look at it in reverse. What reasons am I holding on to for town reading people. See if it lines up with any of those suspicions. Potentially a lengthy job though.
I want to look at HP and our replaced first either way.
To me that implies the Romulans are the mafia, not that they're just part of it 🤷
Vere could just be out here dog sniffing.
Can't wait for whoever doesn't go first to get called out for potentially adjusting based on whoever does 👀
I'm devil's advocating thing one.
Anex blocking an HP who was submitting a kill is an explanation for the kill-less night, not the only explanation.
Some teams prioritise cops over doctors.
On the offchance LP is telling the truth, if they targeted Wee the night he revealed himself (thinking he might self protect) and he blocked their kill of her then her death last night could be because they figured they had a free run at her because it was blocked the night before and they thought he couldn't protect the same target twice in a row.
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Wouldn't Wee not had results to share until N3..? I'm confusedI mean, if I was in a private chat with a claimed multi-shot or unlimited investigative role that revealed a result N1 I sure as hell would get suspicious if there weren't more results rolling it...
Anex (confirmed Town) blocks HP and there is no NK that night. How can we not check this, Double vote or not?
Scum apparently doesn't bother to even try to kill the claimed doc (according to Zipped whose claim is consistent with at least yesterday's behavior), our cop is dead, the "doc" refuses to even acknowledge that this is weird and in general just avoids to engage with anything about last night. How is this not fishy as hell?
D3 indicates they're not both Scum at least...
i hope u guys r ok :(Haven't read any posts since two hours ago. My girlfriend got robbed today and we started drinking VERY early so, uh, sorry nkt sorry.
Take your time Making sure you and yours are alright and ok comes first, solving murders can come during the hangover tomorrowHaven't read any posts since two hours ago. My girlfriend got robbed today and we started drinking VERY early so, uh, sorry nkt sorry.
Thank you, I was really missing the context here
Wouldn't Wee not had results to share until N3..? I'm confused
I would be sick to my stomach if HP turns up scum
Damn, I'm sorry man. I'm hoping you're both good, no one should have to experience that. Take all the time you need.Haven't read any posts since two hours ago. My girlfriend got robbed today and we started drinking VERY early so, uh, sorry nkt sorry.
Thank you, I was really missing the context here
Wouldn't Wee not had results to share until N3..? I'm confused
Oh, I got that LP was feeling curious. Someone up to date tell me if that fits.
The only crusher I ever thought was curious was Wesley….Oh, I got that LP was feeling curious. Someone up to date tell me if that fits.
I am adamant that there is a doctor in this gameIf Zipped is indeed a Bodyguard, I could very well see that this could be a doctorless game.
Can you try and get something out of HPTo the matter of HP and the roleblock, is it possible that D3 was SvSvS? I personally find that unlikely, but HP is definitely not out of the PoE.
You're really not gonna just let me die are youI am adamant that there is a doctor in this game
if you want me to claim i would, idk who reviewed this game and what level of "fuck you" there is
Can you try and get something out of HP
unless you are scum open wolf otherwise id rather not mislynch again
What's your read on Zipped then? Do you think he could be fake claiming?I am adamant that there is a doctor in this game
if you want me to claim i would, idk who reviewed this game and what level of "fuck you" there is
Can you try and get something out of HP
a bodyguard is self resolving unless they dont have their shot but why would scum!zipped fake claim without any pressure on them toWhat's your read on Zipped then? Do you think he could be fake claiming?