TLJ is going to get shit by this film more than on youtube. Rose is going to be a glorfied cameo, rey is a PALPATINE.
Star Wars EP.9 Story Rumor/Leak So Far (Spoilers obviously) (Now with poll!)
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Just want to say my piece but I have not been impressed with Star Wars diversity when they all equal to window dressing to me at this point. Finn imo had the potential to be the most interesting character. Imagine a defected Stormtrooper who's strong in the Force. That's how the promotion made it out to be and now look 😭 Just a caricature chasing after a white character. Rey is Rey. I don't really have strong feelings for her or is attached to her. You could replace her with anyone and it wouldn't really affect the overarching story (or the lack of) that much.
Poe is hot but that's really about it. Cassian despite short lived had a much stronger background and motive as a character in one movie than Poe in three. Rose - don't care for her.
Kylo has been my favourite though really because there's not many interesting new characters in the Nu Trilogy. Part of it is my love of Adam Driver but he could've been stronger written throughout and now there's this bullshit, pussing out ending to his arc. His potential as a character as just gone down the toilet. It makes me mad but at the same time, the fandom can fill or fix the blanks as they've always done.
This will probably be my last Star Wars film I'll see in cinema. I had such high hopes before EP7. The endless creative possibilities with this franchise and yet they've made it so small and insular. If they started a new trilogy story a few hundred years into the future, it'd would've been much more freeing and we would've been better for it
Poe is hot but that's really about it. Cassian despite short lived had a much stronger background and motive as a character in one movie than Poe in three. Rose - don't care for her.
Kylo has been my favourite though really because there's not many interesting new characters in the Nu Trilogy. Part of it is my love of Adam Driver but he could've been stronger written throughout and now there's this bullshit, pussing out ending to his arc. His potential as a character as just gone down the toilet. It makes me mad but at the same time, the fandom can fill or fix the blanks as they've always done.
This will probably be my last Star Wars film I'll see in cinema. I had such high hopes before EP7. The endless creative possibilities with this franchise and yet they've made it so small and insular. If they started a new trilogy story a few hundred years into the future, it'd would've been much more freeing and we would've been better for it
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In the end, everything special about Rey came from Palpatine. A man.
Glorious message JJ.
Wait...Rey is 30? Or did someone stockpile Sheev's sperm?
It's amazing how true this is, especially relative to the prequels. The prequels have issues, but one thing they did so well was creating the feeling of a massive and diverse galaxy with differing planets, civilizations, and alliances.
This trilogy just feels super small in comparison.
I've come under the belief that Star Wars works better as an assortment of TV shows. Long-form story-telling.
It lets everything breathe more.
That's my view in general on most stories. I would rather see a Netflix style ~8 episode season with multiple seasons rather than a few films. Much more time for sub-plots and characters to develop.
I suspect that might be the case.
The TV shows while having a good sized budget will never have a full blown movie budget either, which means the writers are going to have to focus hard on the story and limit the effects stuff.
I also get the sense Abrams and Johnson were more excited about writing a "thesis statement" on what Star Wars should be as a film franchise rather than just sitting down and saying "OK, what's the story here, what makes sense".
The younger filmmakers put the franchise on such a high pedestal in other words that it gets in the way of just treating like a normal story.
Also TV shows by their episodic nature kinda have to have more pre-planning on where the story is going and all that stuff laid out in advance. You can't really budget a season of TV while not knowing what the heck episode 5, 6, etc. are going to be.
If Disney acquired SW post GoT, they could've done this from the jump if they weren't so risk averse
Rian had to know that Rey wasn't actually a nobody, and he could have made Finn, Rose, or Poe the Force sensitive nobodies.
It's so weird how young she is
There is a 99.9% chance that JJ did not plan any of this shit in advance and even if he did he absolutely didn't tell Johnson.
I suspect the plan really was that she would be a Skywalker or Solo some how, but that go tossed out. Either that or JJ really didn't know.
It's hilarious that in 2019 every new planet in Star Wars looks exactly like earth, while the prequels gave us shit like Utapau, Umbara or Felucia
I would guess either a Skywalker or a Kenobi honestly, from TFA.
I read the spoilers. fuck it I don't even care anymore. this whole trilogy is dumb and makes a mockery of the previous movies.
My guess is he had no idea and figured Johnson would do what JJ himself always does and pull some stupid twist out of his ass. When Johnson didn't do that, JJ was like "WELL FUCK THAT" and decided to do it himself.
I did not know this
reylos been calling a 30 year old man a "poor broken boy" .___.
Luke is 19 in ANH and Anakin is 19 in AOTC. It's the parallels.
It does fit the treatment white fascists usually get so at least it's accurate.
the gag of it all is them refusing to have him take responsibility of his actions and framing Han and Leia as either the worst parents in the world or acting like Snoke mind controlled him the whole time and for some ungodly reason Rey the 19 year old has to save this 30 year old man from his own tantrums
why do people keep giving this hack important jobs. how many times is he going to do that and get away with it.
Johnson has said that he sat down with JJ and talked about TLJ's story in the context of how it would fit in the overall trilogy. I can't imagine what those conversations were like with how the movie ended up and TROS going out of it's way to backtrack on one of its major climaxes.
Until he starts bombing spectacularly, he'll keep getting jobs.
People still believe that standard PR?
He's an idiot and a terrible writer, but he's an incredibly successful idiot and terrible writer.
Anakin Skywalker is a mensch compared to his grandson.
(I still like Ben Solo as a character though)
I guess JJ also forgot that he told us the other Knights of Ren were also Luke's students, considering how little the leak says about them, it seems like they're there just to job.
You'd think the EVIL STUDENTS OF LUKE SKYWALKER would be some cool villains, but they're the General Grievous of this movie, maybe even less that, do they even get names?
You'd think the EVIL STUDENTS OF LUKE SKYWALKER would be some cool villains, but they're the General Grievous of this movie, maybe even less that, do they even get names?
I'm not sure either of them are well written but at least Anakin is written. Sure he randomly drops "MY NEW EMPIRE" outta nowhere lmao but at least we actually know what he wants. Wtf does Kylo want. To rule the galaxy? And why...? Why does your mentor trying to kill you suddenly make you want to destroy the government...
Whats the trope for that one called? Some young virginal pure girl being the only one who can forgive/redeem/fix some fucked up monster. Its like.... ew. Shippers man. Mad ting.
To be honest I don't know if he could expect much. According to Daisy Ridley, Johnson basically threw out all of Abrams' outlines for VIII. So I think JJ is just somewhat returning the favor. Or more or less they simply want to tell a story as they see fit and there's not that much consideration for continuity per se.
It'd be interesting if it turned out to be half way decent, lol.
I get the feeling the Lucas treatment that he gave to Disney was a trainwreck.
Like the whole thing about them planning Sheev from the start, it doesn't really matter. They're either lieing and its plain to see because of the end result of the films or they're telling the truth and incompetent, both suck.
The Knights of Ren aren't Luke's students.
The new Kylo Ren comic is saying that the half of Luke's students that vanished with Ben didn't do it to join him.
That half actually chased after Ben Solo after he "murdered their" master to bring him to justice. Whether Ben killed them with the help of the KoR or not remains to be seen.
It really needed a Cameron or Nolan. Abrams and Johnson are alright but I don't think anyone would consider them top tier filmmakers based on their overall resume.
Abrams is like a Michael Bay-Steven Spielberg hybrid but not really quite as good as either at their strengths.
Rian Johnson is a promising filmmaker but it's not like his previous work was that incredible. Looper is kind of a solid 7/10 film.
That is a very convenient way to do some damage control. Especially after this scene:
The implication is clear, Kylo had some of his classmates at his side
But hey comics filling in JJ's sloppy writing has been the foundation of this trilogy
Finns degradation to comedic relief grinds my gear so much. There was so much potential, a completely new story they could have told. instead we get the funny black guy. character development is so weak in these new movies. trying anything new in this movie is so weak. and when they try we get edgy mcedge stuff like TLJ.
the only movie that captures what I wanted from the new trilogy is Rogue One. a hint of nostalgia, old gritty looks made with new technology, a tight gripping story on a grand scale without too much rehash. instead they went with STAR WARS: NOW BIGGER AND BADDER with death planets making mockery of the iconic Death Star which looks like a satellite station now, a lazy Palpatine sucessor that no one knows where he came from, what his purpose was and he already got killed off, the Empire basically making a comeback and now possibly Nu-Palpatine making the whole OT useless.
I'm veering off, I could go on for ages. the new trilogy makes me so angry I feel like crying.
Next to nothing happens in TLJ so it didn't step on JJ's Rey Palpatine plan
Even though I'm not crazy where they took the character, Hamil's acting here is some of the best of his career and better than every performance in the prequels combined.
While watching TFA for the first time I was really hoping to get dual force sensitive protagonists.
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