In fairness, don't Ben and Rey have these powers because they are a dyad which in the
movie they explained only comes along like once a millenia or something ?
they are extremely special yes
In fairness, don't Ben and Rey have these powers because they are a dyad which in the
movie they explained only comes along like once a millenia or something ?
In Rogue One a Corvette goes to Hyperspeed and just bounces off Devastator.
It requires specific conditions, and the Raddus also had a special experimental shield technology that played a part in it working too
Agreed. Watching this and Han's death in TFA side-by-side... ugh, my heart hurts.I'm not done reading your post but had to jump in a echo this. The scene with Han is one of the best in the film and Driver is soo damn good. When he says "Dad.." and kinda flinches in a mixture of pain and relief was an incredible moment.
Yes!
There is also the paradox where as time goes on, more expanded universe shit just keeps piling onto Vader's sins.
People love to comment on thematic resonance of these movies, but fans and the general public mostly want to see people in cool costumes do cool things.
They literally show a baby doing it in a TV show released the day before the movieIn fairness, don't Ben and Rey have these powers because they are a dyad which in the
movie they explained only comes along like once a millenia or something ?
One of the few original ideas in the movie that I really liked
An antagonist can redeem themselves without grafting a surprise big bad as the main driver of the action. ROS reeks of first draft, on the fly writingIt's not a mess. It's exactly what happened with Darth Vader. His turn to light came just as much out of left field in ROTJ. Ren's redemption is just a Skywalker re-run.
So, yes, having a Kevin Feige-esque figure who was able to shepherd 23 movies - all well-received to varying degrees - to a universally well-received 23-movie-saga conclusion wasn't too much to ask, especially given that this trilogy was just three movies. Just three. That's all they had to do. Marvel did it with two dozen films in a decade. Star Wars's crew didn't because they were constantly changing the themes and messages and plots and characters of the films beat by beat until the end.
I guess. But I feel like that would be something you'd want to show onscreen rather than inferring that it happened.We don't know that they didn't do that for him as well. He was thrown into an endless pit, and still had the strength to climb out. The same thing that happened to Rey must've happened to him too.
One of the few original ideas in the movie that I really liked
everything is a mess but is a mess i was waiting, and i liked it.
I was the only one in the office who seemed to not like it. Every time I brought up a thing I didn't like, they all went "Yeah, that was weird," but they still liked it overall. I think that's going to be how it works out for most people. Everyone's going to have the same things they talk about, but for some people it will be something they dislike, and for others it will be something they didn't care about.I'm pleasantly surprised that the panelists on Kind of Funny's Star Wars in Review all liked the movie while acknowledging it has flaws. I liked it as well, while realizing there are problems with the movie. As an end to the saga, I dug it. It's far from the trainwreck people are making it out to be. RJ went overboard subverting Star Wars. J.J. corrected course, but over corrected. That said, as much as the pacing of the movie was breakneck (it felt like two movies in one), it was a fun roller coaster ride IMO. I'm satisfied with it.
I don't think anyone is confused as to why he can't do it in the story. I understand why he can't but the entire idea is dumb and rushed. It could have been good if they had given it more time and tried different ways of getting the translation out of him. Having the memory wipe solution as the only real option after trying a bunch of other would have given 3PO's goodbye some actual weight. That and not just restoring his memory right after of course.3PO starts to explain why the memory wipe is required. He says something about Republic Law forbidding the translation but is cut off. Would explain why translator droids are not permitted to translate Sith. Some old Law the republic passed that required droids to be locked out from translating text of the enemy
Thanks. I just ordered the visual dictionary for tros. Would you recommend getting the tlj amd tfa ones as well?I was made a thread about this.
The few minutes we got of Ben Solo fighting were probably my favorite. That shrug actually had me believing he was Han's kid lol.
My biggest issue with the whole ST is that it just reset the galaxy again. Like we were literally here at this exact moment in terms of galactic affairs at the end of ROTJ. What was the point of all this
Honestly I dont think youre that alone. I fall into this category and several other people have expressed the same sentiment. I don't particularly care that this movie was a fuck you to the last jedi, because this movie itself wasn't any good either (in fact I would say its much worse). And unlike TLJ, this movie had not a single interesting thing in its entire run time-with the best stuff being shit it aped from TLJ like the kylo rey dynamic. The only reason its funny that this movie went so far out of its way to spite TLJ is because this movie itself is a dumpster fire and together they tarnish the entire OT saga and render it meaingless. These actors and characters deserved so much better.I'm starting to feel like I'm in some weird special group of people who disliked TLJ because they thought it was a bad film and not because I particularly disagreed with anything it did. I don't give 2 shits what TLJ did plot wise, I just thought it did it badly. Now I've seen this film and all it's done is undo what TLJ did for seemingly no reason at all (genuinely - why does Rey need to be who she is? You could have done this story without wasting so much bloody time undoing stuff you didn't have to) while also making many of the same failures TLJ did.
Primarily, it fails at feeling like Star Wars. Completely fails. Both films have all these action sequences where they fling a bunch of sights and sounds at me which I recognise as being Star Wars, without actually feeling like it. TLJ at least got better as it went on and in the second half started to nail it, but the opening hour of TLJ is bloody awful, especially the entire first scene. This one doesn't even manage that, every single action sequence is just this shit CGI fest that has absolutely no excitement whatsoever. There's no flow, no kineticism or anything. Shit just blows up and I'm supposed to be excited.
I disliked TLJ because I thought it was a bad film - badly made action sequences, bad dialogue, misfiring humour. And now I dislike this one because it's got badly made action sequences, bad dialogue and awful pacing because it was so obsessed with undoing something that wasn't a problem in the first place. We went from one film that was just badly done in large parts and eyerollingly awful at one or two to a film that's just generically bad and boring.
I'll concede it had one or two good moments such as Han and Ben. And it's the only one of the three that's not a remake of a film in the OT. That's about it.
So, yes, having a Kevin Feige-esque figure who was able to shepherd 23 movies - all well-received to varying degrees - to a universally well-received 23-movie-saga conclusion wasn't too much to ask, especially given that this trilogy was just three movies. Just three. That's all they had to do. Marvel did it with two dozen films in a decade. Star Wars's crew didn't because they were constantly changing the themes and messages and plots and characters of the films beat by beat until the end.
My biggest issue with the whole ST is that it just reset the galaxy again. Like we were literally here at this exact moment in terms of galactic affairs at the end of ROTJ. What was the point of all this
Star Wars Episode IX - The Quest for More MoneyThe few minutes we got of Ben Solo fighting were probably my favorite. That shrug actually had me believing he was Han's kid lol.
My biggest issue with the whole ST is that it just reset the galaxy again. Like we were literally here at this exact moment in terms of galactic affairs at the end of ROTJ. What was the point of all this
Agreed. I thought it was hilarious when she just fell to the ground for literally zero reason.
He held on until Obi-Wan could become one with the force, obviously
Oh, the writing is far worse than the Marvel moviesIt's so clear that JJ doesn't really understand what a character arc is or themes or anything and just writes his stories based on what he thinks will make fans clap in the cinema or whatever.
For better or worse Rian sat down and wrote a character arc for everyone In The Last Jedi and that gave it some depth. People still argue about that movie because there's a lot going on. Rian molded the plot around the characters. Ya know, like an actual movie insteed of a cacophony of toy comercals and ePiC fanSeRvice
Kind of sad to watch Star Wars become a marvel movie but hey.
Guilty as charged lol. I liked Kylo just based on the looks before Episode 7 even dropped lol.
Agreed. I thought it was hilarious when she just fell to the ground for literally zero reason.
I would have liked to see 3Po stuck with like perhaps a memory restore from around after Revenge of the Sith when he is given to the Organa family. He would be back but also lose decades of memories including of all the people he was close too in the OT etc. would be truly tragicI don't think anyone is confused as to why he can't do it in the story. I understand why he can't but the entire idea is dumb and rushed. It could have been good if they had given it more time and tried different ways of getting the translation out of him. Having the memory wipe solution as the only real option after trying a bunch of other would have given 3PO's goodbye some actual weight. That and not just restoring his memory right after of course.
Marvel (Studios) movies generally have strong character arcs and consistent writing. If only TRoS had that.
I think The Force Awakens refutes this but maybe that was Kasdan's influence. The writing in that is a masterclass compared to this.It's so clear that JJ doesn't really understand what a character arc is or themes or anything and just writes his stories based on what he thinks will make fans clap in the cinema or whatever.
For better or worse Rian sat down and wrote a character arc for everyone In The Last Jedi and that gave it some depth. People still argue about that movie because there's a lot going on. Rian molded the plot around the characters. Ya know, like an actual movie insteed of a cacophony of toy comercals and ePiC fanSeRvice
Kind of sad to watch Star Wars become a marvel movie but hey.
So the full force of and power of the jedi are only strong enough for her to get on her feet and hold up two lightsabers and then let her die?i mean she was practically dead, until the power of the other jedi helped her rise.
so for me it's not that far fetched 🤷♂️
Lol I just remembered the SNOKE CLONES. What the fuck was up with that!? Literally a 5 second shot and then never brought up again. This film attempts to explain so much shit that needed no explanation. It's amazing how hard J.J. tried to NOT be like TLJ, but it really doesn't work.