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Stealing Amazon Packages in the Age of Nextdoor
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At least the system worked to protect the daughter from an abusive situation with a drug addicted mother. You can argue that society or the system fails for people like this woman who most probably suffer from mental health issues on top of drug addiction when she just keeps re-offending regardless of the options given to her. But framing the victims of her theft or their door cams as the source of her problems is rather ridiculous and just comes across as a very try-hard take by this author. And if the author intended to make a different point, then it didn't come across well at all.
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I guess it's supposed to illustrate how it's failing everyone in this case. But it's just hard to feel much sympathy for her when it's basically like she's batting away the rope that keeps getting thrown to save her from drowning. Like someone else said, I guess this is more of a story of addiction and how difficult it is to help someone with mental health issues.
There just seems to be a lack of clear focus, or least focus of actual importance. Because the cameras in this case really don't seem to be an issue. So it's a wierd focus to say that surveillance culture is bad, because she just needed to steal a few packages for various things, so maybe it's keeping someone in a bad place that only stole a little. But that just feels like such a wierd argument to make.
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I know liberals love to defend others, but stop defending thieves. She's a crook. It's not unusual that a crook lives in poverty. Poverty breeds criminals.
The best way to help these people is to vote democrat. We don't need to spin it any other way.
The best way to help these people is to vote democrat. We don't need to spin it any other way.
Criminal justice reform doesn't mean ignoring crimes committed by the poor, or punishing criminals period.
In this case, at least, we had a rehabilitative justice system. This thief was given chance after chance and let off the hook by the criminal justice system only to spit on her opportunities for rehabilitation and continue committing crimes.
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SF is Democrat City. What should the city do about/for/with the woman in question, who's now homeless and still stealing packages?
Are you in a next door? Because that is not remotely true. 98% of the conversation is either package thieves, dogs shitting on their lawn, or the way people drive
I know this is a weird perspective, but when my packages have been stolen in the past, I haven't really cared that much. Anything that I need immediately (or is a unique item with no duplicate) and to be 100% free of theft risk I will have delivered to my employer's office. If it's just stuff off of Amazon ... sure, it's a huge pain in the ass when my stuff gets stolen, but I'm a few clicks away from a replacement being sent 24 hours later at no additional cost. Package thieves suck, and I have so sympathy for them, but I also think it's one of those things that people get super bent out of shape about. If it's important, ship it to a secure location. If it's not, it's got a chance of being stolen. It's a shitty reality, but I know the rules and I play within them. I also don't leave my car windows down in the Summer. City life.
I'm in Nextdoor. I've seen spicy comments in threads about crime news, but the criminals come on all shapes and colors.
99% of the time it's the most boring shit imaginable. People selling stuff or asking about events, like "did everyone's light went out" or missing pets.
99% of the time it's the most boring shit imaginable. People selling stuff or asking about events, like "did everyone's light went out" or missing pets.
Putting people in jail for petty theft is not helpful. It destabilizes people and perpetuates harm. Do you really expect someone with a history of addiction, homelessness and possibly trauma to think about this the same way you do? In the article, she is quoted as saying she lives day by day - future threats of jail are not a deterrent for these situations.
Community service and fines are appropriate then. We have a lot of freeways with litter and trash that's not gonna pick itself up. People want to commit petty crime, make them clean up our streets.
It's your best chance. I don't know. Punish her for stealing packages? Some people have issues that aren't easily resolved.
