Stranger Things S4 | OT | Every ending has a beginning (Open spoilers)
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Agree with what you're all saying, again, I didn't want her to die and was absolutely relieved El brought her back, I just get where others are coming from.
Mod gave permission a page ago. Not being jerks. The subject literally says (open spoilers) bruh
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People expressed the desire to stop using spoiler tags. And since Volume Two is significantly shorter and we're at end of the first weekend, I thought that lifting the spoiler tag requirements was a good idea to make it easier to discuss the season.
The thread title was modified, as well as the OP. I also made a threadmark. Hopefully it will be enough.
I officially want all of the weird character combos as I think some of the personalities would be fun to see clash and eventually work. I'm thinking
Erica, Joyce, and Argyle
Hopper and Robyn
Dustin and Murray
Steve and Enzo
Give me all the combinations.
Erica, Joyce, and Argyle
Hopper and Robyn
Dustin and Murray
Steve and Enzo
Give me all the combinations.
Will and Erica if only because Erica's forceful personality would counter Will's passive one.
Mike and Nancy for that sibling combo.
Hopper, Mike, and El.
But her "death" is so over the top though. All those writhing, her not wanting to die, Lucas just helplessly watching and Hawkins going apocalypse that I was so sure they'll introduce time travel in the next scene to undo it. Her dying in that moment would've been a jump-the-shark moment for the show because not only it was cruel, it felt like a disservice to the character and spirit of the show.
Erica talking about the recent D&D campaign while Will silently seethes.
Next season needs to just be everyone fighting over who gets to hang out with Dustin
My hope that the original D&D group together again. It's been since season 1 that they've done stuff together.
Max not being dead is all about having partially succeeded in preventing Vecna from winning, so he hasn't completely opened the portal.
Max will probably be taken by the military and if she dies chances are the portal will fully open.
I'm thinking the military will want to keep her permanently alive but entraped/bound, while Lucas and co will want to find a way to free her and bring her back to being her normal self.
Doubt the blindness is permanent; Vecna's eyes are the same so I think even if she was permanently blind she will end up being able to see in some capacity, maybe with her mind, but she might not quite ever see the movie with Lucas, not with her own eyes, but still go see it together anyway.
Max will probably be taken by the military and if she dies chances are the portal will fully open.
I'm thinking the military will want to keep her permanently alive but entraped/bound, while Lucas and co will want to find a way to free her and bring her back to being her normal self.
Doubt the blindness is permanent; Vecna's eyes are the same so I think even if she was permanently blind she will end up being able to see in some capacity, maybe with her mind, but she might not quite ever see the movie with Lucas, not with her own eyes, but still go see it together anyway.
Uh... I'm pretty sure the portal is fully open. Hence the ash falling, plants dying, and smoke at the end. I don't think Max is gonna be in the military's eye at all, no one but the party even knows what happened to her.
Heaven forbid someone had plans this weekend or had to work or was away or whatever and wanders into this thread, I feel for them!
On a more serious note, I feel like Will's story next season has a potentially sizeable role for Robin.
I would really like to see the original group together again for a bit.
I mean... Why would they enter a thread where 99% of people were discussing part of the show they haven't watched yet?
She's physically in one of the flashbacks they show, isn't she? It's very brief but I'm almost certain she was shown this season. This season as a whole had a lot of 2 callbacks which shocked me but I appreciated how this show never ignores anything from the past, stuff like acknowledging Kali just suprised me seeing the reception to her ep in 2
Edit: Wiki says she's in ep 6
Yeah my main hope is the A plot being the Season 1 crew together again (+ Max and Will). Steve complains about being the babysitter multiple times this season, so its a perfect chance to let Jonathan, Nancy, Steve and Robin have their own group again.
I don't think so? She couldn't be or One would have killed her too, I think it's safe to assume he killed everyone but Eleven. And the fact they threw in that line of him saying this was after Eight wasn't there, specifically to adress this possible plot hole, I doubt she was in a flashback scene.
This flashback from S2 appears in S4 I'm pretty sure. It's a flashback of a flashback
Hawkins is going to be forcibly evacuated, and the angry general is on to them all, and she has glassy eyes with broken limbs and dark streaks running down her cheeks. You can bet the general is going to get her body into his possession as he is familiar with the whole situation and how Vecna's victims were killed while she survived.
It won't take much for the military to take her when the whole town has to be evacuated, the kids won't be able to take custody of her and keep her on life support at Hopper's shack.
Yeah I figured it was pulled from 2 since I did think it looked very familiar
This flashback from S2 appears in S4 I'm pretty sure. It's a flashback of a flashback
What!? I thought this whole time that I was watching the final season and episode. Don't know how I screwed that up but I'm relieved.
I can only speak for myself, but I haven't looked at the OP since May or whenever it went up for Vol. 1, AND the title change is so subtle that I didn't even notice it now read "open spoilers" instead of "open spoilers for Vol. 1" (as it did yesterday) until the OP quoted me and told me. I think it would be very easy to come into here just wanting some spoiler free impressions and then get wrecked with major spoilers.
I don't mean to be a jerk but.....in what world would anyone watch this episode and think "yep, that's the series finale!".
While I agree the actual content makes it clear there's more story to tell, I can see how someone would be confused by their decision to make the penultimate season a 2-parter, with the finale being a whole ass feature length movie, normally you only do that kind of thing for the final season!
He recognized that after watching but was confused because he thought this was the last. Wires got crossed it seems.
Yes, I too hope that the main characters share scenes again at some point.
Honestly, it's so weird to me that the show has gone out of its way to keep the original group separated since season 1. There's always at least one member missing or off somewhere else.
Steve and Eleven are like Legolas and Frodo. They're friends by proxy and belong to the same group, but they've never actually talked to each other.
You can be assured that will be the final scene of the series.
So, Steve is like, 100% losing a hand/arm next season as an Evil Dead homage, right?
Chainsaw optional.
Chainsaw optional.
Why would you ruin Steve's screen-time by attaching the second worse character to him?
If we're doing a timeskip, I don't think her limbs are still gonna be broken by the time we see her again. Like I don't see them keeping her bedbound or in a wheelchair when she inevitably wakes up.
The military would keep her in a coma or some such if they figure her dying would fully open the portal. They certainly won't let her go.
God, that S4 finale dragged and dragged. In the end, the best part of the season was the helicopter vs. Eleven scene.
Will's going to end up being the Big Bad, huh?
Will's going to end up being the Big Bad, huh?
butth0les at the independent ruined a character not surviving this season and I sure it would be everyone's favorite, Steve, never suspected it'd be poor Eddie, Dude deserved better.
butth0les at the independent ruined a character not surviving this season and I sure it would be everyone's favorite, Steve, never suspected it'd be poor Eddie, Dude deserved better.
It was the most obvious choice, especially with his whole thing of seeing himself as a coward, otherwise the writers would have to work overtime explaining how the town would go back to accepting/tolerating him without it feeling immensely contrived
When we are dropped back in two years later, the town, inc. most/all main cast, are brainwashed under Vecna's spell into thinking absolutely nothing is wrong at all, when it plainly is to the viewers, and it takes some Kate Bush-type shit to restore their sanity.
"A big red crack in reality? That old thing's always been there!"
My heart shouldn't be aching for a pairing that lasted all but one episode and yet it does
Here's to them rocking out in a second post-life alternate dimension somewhere
Mike's home being frozen in time as a mirror of the home on the day Will disappeared could lead to them finishing the game they never could finish in the real-world, and this time winning, with ghost-Eddie as the DM.
If I recall right they needed six players to play with Eddie.
Mike, Will, Dustin, Lucas, Erica, El?
I think she will show up on her own. If the town is cordoned off by the military, with conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics and militias refusing to leave and such, I could see her showing up after hearing about what's happening.
I just finished the last two episodes with my wife...
Holy shit! Poor, poor Max! I don't know why she had to suffer so so much. And I was really thinking we'd get SOME resolution or something in the "2 days later" "epilogue" thing, but no, when Eleven visits her mind it's completely blank.
So, best case scenario, Max has months/years of physical therapy for how horrifically shattered her limbs were, plus a whole hell of a lot of PTSD and mental trauma, assuming she isn't also blind? Jesus.
It felt excessive, IMO.
I was really sad to see Eddie die, too. Was hoping they wouldn't "Bob" him, but what's done is done. :(
Holy shit! Poor, poor Max! I don't know why she had to suffer so so much. And I was really thinking we'd get SOME resolution or something in the "2 days later" "epilogue" thing, but no, when Eleven visits her mind it's completely blank.
So, best case scenario, Max has months/years of physical therapy for how horrifically shattered her limbs were, plus a whole hell of a lot of PTSD and mental trauma, assuming she isn't also blind? Jesus.
It felt excessive, IMO.
I was really sad to see Eddie die, too. Was hoping they wouldn't "Bob" him, but what's done is done. :(