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manon changes
4MK's on air 2nd hit will make the opponent into a "bound" state, doesn't combo into lp renverse (the comboable special grab), but on corner after blocked DI wall slam it will connect
4HP combos into OD grand fouette (OD version of the renverse > kick button)
Good timing. I reached Master with Ed just yesterday. I'm pretty stoked for the new phase
I've been asking for drive reversal to given more utility for it's cost so this is a really good change imo. It also only being -8 vs like -30 for a normal dp means it's a lower risk option for characters with traditional DPs
I feel like Honda is bottom tier already. This is almost funny to me.
It makes sense, Honda needs a redesign so he's not just a parry minigame so they gotta remove the stuff that makes him one note in order to buff him elsewhere.
He's arguably the worst character in the game but his play style is fucking obnoxious. So I'm glad they're doing something to alleviate that, but they should probably find a new identity for him.
Honda has never been properly balanced. He's either been obnoxious but not good, or obnoxious and too good. Often times, both simultaneously depending on who he was facing (i.e. too good against non-projectile characters, and not good enough against projectile characters). So... good luck with that.
Personally, I think keeping him as is with some minor tweaks is the best to hope for.
On the other hand, I think Lily needs a total overhaul. SHe's a one trick pony, but her one trick is stupidly obnoxious. She's worse than Honda in that regard. Give her a bunch more tools but Wind boost Condor Spire being a mindlessly free mix-up with no downside (Drive Reversal doesn't count) needs to go.
Personally, I think keeping him as is with some minor tweaks is the best to hope for.
On the other hand, I think Lily needs a total overhaul. SHe's a one trick pony, but her one trick is stupidly obnoxious. She's worse than Honda in that regard. Give her a bunch more tools but Wind boost Condor Spire being a mindlessly free mix-up with no downside (Drive Reversal doesn't count) needs to go.
Hi Fight summary (via Koichi):
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SFV Season 2 (Akuma Ver.) Chagelist Summary Thread by Koichi
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SFV Season 2 (Akuma Ver.) Chagelist Summary Thread by Koichi
If I'm translating the google doc translations correctly, it appears Kens delayed chin buster combo is no longer a thing.
Which, ouch if that's truly the case.
Wait what's that
Oh, they made Jamie somehow even more obnoxious
Which, ouch if that's truly the case.
Wait what's that
Oh, they made Jamie somehow even more obnoxious
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Oh man those Aki changes are JUICY
View: https://twitter.com/HiFightTH/status/1785647005706162567
Venomous Fang not being a reliable anti projectile move was so fucking dumb. Love that Blossom L Lash will have better properties now too.
View: https://twitter.com/HiFightTH/status/1785647005706162567
Venomous Fang not being a reliable anti projectile move was so fucking dumb. Love that Blossom L Lash will have better properties now too.
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No. AKI's level 2 has no projectile invincibility, so it'll always trade. For slower projectiles, it'll destroy it if she reacts in time (Chun's Kikoken, Rashid's tornado shot, etc.). But for most, it'll keep traversing and hit her.
I think it's well known but I'm just saying it out loud in case anyone isn't aware
None of these changes are confirmed, and none of them are final. They're doing this as a beta test run of the balance changes, 100%. And as we saw during the Ed preview, commonly agreed-upon changes ended up not being actual changes.
None of these changes are confirmed, and none of them are final. They're doing this as a beta test run of the balance changes, 100%. And as we saw during the Ed preview, commonly agreed-upon changes ended up not being actual changes.
Yeah I knew it wasn't invuln, but any projectile in the hurtbox gets deleted. The MP version in particular will snuff a lot of projectiles outside of the fastest ones like heavy projectiles, air slasher, and sandblast.
It being projectile invulnerable feels like a bit much, especially since her current changes are pretty spicy, but I'm not completely opposed to the idea tbh.
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Capcom really forgot lily is in the game
The onlt changed that people seem to have found is that allegedly her 2HP is nerfed :)
The onlt changed that people seem to have found is that allegedly her 2HP is nerfed :)
The buttslam change would probably help him since now you're in st.hp range which is his best poke. And they're increasing the forward movement on st.mp so that as well can probably whiff punish from range. Dude still hits like a bomb. He's probably going to be more dangerous now that people can't rely on spam and people will learn footsies.
People have only scratched the surface on changes. Can't really judge this until the patch is fully out and fully detailed.
I'm a Ken player. Why don't I follow the implications of this?
He's got a really strong combo that's st.mp *delay* cr.hp where it doesn't launch your opponent. So from there you can do any of his dash moves, his light tatsu combo, all sorts of nasty shit.
If I'm reading this right, that's gone.
You could delay the HP on block to create a built in frame trap and you could make safe by cancelling into EX Fireball which then gives you a combo if it hit, so not it won't frametrap. It's quite a decent change.
We don't know the extent, we don't even know if the ones listed are real and not just people screwing up their inputs because they expect them to be different, we also don't know how many of these "common sense" patches would basically break the game without all of the other balance changes.
Further, we don't even know if these changes, if we take for granted they're real, will make it in their current form to the release.
I can't say I used it much that I know of so I'm good with it.
Bro those A.K.I. changes are fucking massive.(Especially for a bad player like me lol)
I just reached diamond 2 last night and I feel like I will be unstoppable once I I can Drive rush Low poke into full heavy kick Combo 💪
The current combos are hard for me to do so at my skill level I'm going to be converting so much more damage
Frame one invisibility on venomous Fang legit means certain characters can't throw Fireballs anymore. I suck at timing it currently but now you just slide bait whenever and and lunge the second they move.
I just reached diamond 2 last night and I feel like I will be unstoppable once I I can Drive rush Low poke into full heavy kick Combo 💪
The current combos are hard for me to do so at my skill level I'm going to be converting so much more damage
Frame one invisibility on venomous Fang legit means certain characters can't throw Fireballs anymore. I suck at timing it currently but now you just slide bait whenever and and lunge the second they move.
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Also, I've decided I need to rip the bandaid off.
I'm going to spend the next month leading up to the patch playing the game with purpose. Which means relearning how to play without mashing, doing solid AA's, and not pressing buttons when I don't mean to.
Wish me luck, I'm attempting to break every single bad habit I have and my win ratio is probably going to be in the toilet for a bit.
I'm going to spend the next month leading up to the patch playing the game with purpose. Which means relearning how to play without mashing, doing solid AA's, and not pressing buttons when I don't mean to.
Wish me luck, I'm attempting to break every single bad habit I have and my win ratio is probably going to be in the toilet for a bit.
Ryu is top 5 to me. I can't even think of what he lacks atm.This is where I was at going into the patch...
People had 10 minutes to play and they had to either test their characters or try Akuma out, this is just the stuff they could notice in those conditions.
They're increasing the distance between you and the opponent after a backthrow, this mostly just affects situations like when you're in the corner and do perfect parry > backthrow to sideswitch.
The opponent goes farther on back throws now
Wouldn't this increase the drink time if anything?
I think it would make it easier to get a drink since your further away or am I'm missing something
Yeah, you only get less frame advantage if you go for a drive rush or whatever since you're further out, stuff like Jamie wanting to set up drinks is unnaffected if not better due to the extra safety.
Kimberly:
- SA1: Can choose to not use Spray Can
- H Vagabond Edge: Combo into OD Air Grab
These 2 make me very happy!! H Vagabond not being able to combo into OD air grab was always weird to me...
- SA1: Can choose to not use Spray Can
- H Vagabond Edge: Combo into OD Air Grab
These 2 make me very happy!! H Vagabond not being able to combo into OD air grab was always weird to me...
What do you mean why, that button being hitconfirmable is insane, it's a ridiculous button that leads to ridiculous reward with no commitment whatsoever.
As opposed to fucking fierces being okay to hit confirm? Which by the way she can't do.
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