You know I don't even know who woud become president if they impeached everyone and remove Biden, Harris, and somehow Pelosi since she would become president if those two get removed.
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You know I don't even know who woud become president if they impeached everyone and remove Biden, Harris, and somehow Pelosi since she would become president if those two get removed.
The anger seems partially dissipated since the leak.
If it continues to be effective then I foresee all future destructive rulings getting leaked.
With no centralized movement a general strike will never occur.
A general strike asks for a LOT out of people.
Well Pelosi would already no longer be the Speaker in this situation.
But the order of succession after the President goes:
- Vice President
- Speaker of the House
- President Pro Tempore of the Senate
- Secretary of State
- Secretary of the Treasury
- Secretary of Defense
- Attorney General
- Secretary of the Interior
- Secretary of Agriculture
- Secretary of Commerce
- Secretary of Labor
- Secretary of Health and Human Services
- Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
- Secretary of Transportation
- Secretary of Energy
- Secretary of Education
- Secretary of Veterans Affairs
- Secretary of Homeland Security
If you genuinely think such a thing is possible, ever, then you fundamentally do not understand the United States.
Agreed that it won't occur without a centralized movement.
It does ask for a lot. Change always does.
That shit was not a slip, they said exactly what they meant.
I can totally see the GOP gutting the government to own the Libs
Whenever anybody talks about the exceptions for rape or when a mother's life is in danger I always wonder how that's even enforced. Honest question, what other laws work in that manner? Especially ones that are incredibly time sensitive.
And how does this work? You have to prove you were raped? Like the rapist is tried and convicted? Within a few months?? Or you just have to claim it?
And for risk of a mother's life, does the doctor just need to sign off? Or now must it include the police or a politician? If a doctor, will it be like old California weed prescriptions where you just go to the right doctor or a state appointed doctor?
And not that you're at all suggesting otherwise, but it really should be hammered into people that this decision makes no exceptions. That just because one state may today say "oh we will have exceptions for X and Y", there's no guarantee that will remain.
I just always hate whenever these "exceptions" are brought up by politicians because it doesn't make any fucking sense and yet I've heard this shit for decades.
It also helps that healthcare is more often than not tied to your employment.
I sincerely hope come Monday Biden has some concrete plans he can speak on, and not just his profound disappointment with the court. This is why people think he's weak and pathetic. This is one of the most egregious rulings the court could do short of deciding that segregation was actually okay. I need to see some action and him doing something and having plans.
Despite what some people think the federal government is not just some powerless entity. There are things they can do right now to help deal with some of the blowback.
Despite what some people think the federal government is not just some powerless entity. There are things they can do right now to help deal with some of the blowback.
Useless piece of shit.
Biden ‘does not agree with’ expanding US Supreme Court
US president likely will not support progressive demands to add justices to nation’s high court
www.independent.co.uk
There are big protests, they're just in typical cities (NYC, Philadelphia, LA, SF, Chicago, etc) so the typical Fox News viewer could ignore them as the domain of crazy liberals. The reason 2020 was so different was because those events and the big protesting started in places that couldn't be dismissed by the modal Fox News viewer (like Wisconsin and such).
It remains to be seen if the protests will spin up and occur in places outside of the usual suspects.
It would not be feasible if he said yes otherwise.Useless piece of shit.
Biden ‘does not agree with’ expanding US Supreme Court
US president likely will not support progressive demands to add justices to nation’s high court
Oh don't worry, I do. Workers have basically 0 rights and are fucked if they leave their workplace.
It's like someone is checking off every single point on the "everything wrong with the US constitution" list of my history lessons rn.
This thread is basically people suggesting things that would sound good and should happen and then other people explaining how that realistically couldn't happen within the system we have right now.
States can make it harder or easier, generally harder. Typically for rape or incest you would need a sworn statement from the victim, a police report, and maybe additional sworn statements and/or other evidence. For medical need the provider would have to sign a sworn statement of medical necessity, and of course be able to share their medical evidence to support that conclusion.
Useless piece of shit.
Biden ‘does not agree with’ expanding US Supreme Court
US president likely will not support progressive demands to add justices to nation’s high court
It would be bad politics if he said otherwise right before midterms.
He wants more senators to codify it. That's the route he's picking.
Other countries do this neat thing where they actually rewrite their constitution every so often. Jefferson even said we should be doing it every 20 years I think. yet here we are following the words of people who lived in the 18th century to the letter.
and i dont wanna hear about "amendments" the way this shithole country is set up that's nearly impossible.
and i dont wanna hear about "amendments" the way this shithole country is set up that's nearly impossible.
Apparently the full quote is belowUseless piece of shit.
Biden ‘does not agree with’ expanding US Supreme Court
US president likely will not support progressive demands to add justices to nation’s high court
So I'm wondering where this even comes from, especially considering they manage to not quote her in the piece at all. If she said it, they should have the direct quote. That they don't is more than a little weird.
Wonder if they got that from the now deleted tweet mischaracterizing what the press sec said.Useless piece of shit.
Biden ‘does not agree with’ expanding US Supreme Court
US president likely will not support progressive demands to add justices to nation’s high court
What if Americans are not able to use their voice at the ballot box though, due to stupidity, electoral college mapping or illegalities. how bout them apples
If Biden really wanted what he says to mean something, all he has to do is say "To all Americans disappointed with the Supreme Court's rulilng, go on strike. You have my permission. To the Republican senators/representatives going on FOX news and talking what the Democrats are doing in response, come find me at the White House."
It would force change if a general strike was approved at the highest level of government. But no Biden has this misconceived notion that 'reaching across the aisle' means something.
How's it a weird fantasy? The reality is a general strike won't get off the ground without any organization behind it and would have to be done by the people. Biden letting the police and potentially the military prevent it would endorse the police's actions and allow for the general strike to die, not endorse the people's response.
I guess my point is if Trump can use his office to sabotage the government, Biden can use it that way too.
I don't think you understand what a strike is if you think the military or police could stop it
Biden doesn't control the police, and the military isn't going to be used against strikers. A stoke doesn't need to be authorized by the President. That's not a power he has.
More to the point, if less then half of Americans even have a problem with the decision, how many do you think are going to strike?
Biden calling for a general strike would be nothing but a ridiculous embarrassment.
You need two more dem senators. Campaigning on it now would just hurt their chances. Hence, bad politics.
Was it that nazi Youtuber who got chased off by a girl with a spatula?
This resonates with me, and I truly believe that we're bearing the "fruits," in many ways we don't realize, of a large portion of the populace getting their info through edgy, often misleading social media soundbites that celebrate nihilism as the enlightened viewpoint. It has popped up in this thread over and over and over again -- misleading if not downright bullshit tweets meant to do nothing but make you feel angry and hopeless. The fact that it pops up every couple of pages speaks to how pervasive and influential it is. It's almost a gish gallop.
This bullshit is getting called out here on Era (thank god), but half the time the person who posted it ignores the responses and eventually comes back around to share more BS, when what they need to be doing is thinking critically about the information they consume. On ERA of all sites, where people presumably think themselves above the right-wing misinformation machine, you'd hope folks would be self-aware about this shit instead of constantly rebroadcasting it. Garbage in, garbage out. It's not a way to build change.
In general nobody should listen to people who just want you to be angry/upset/hopeless all the time, and we should REALLY question their motivations. It does less than nothing to help the causes they claim to care so much about -- working towards a better future requires a lot of boring, day by day work and community engagement, and that shit doesn't really happen when you're just sitting around on social media picking emotional scabs to keep yourself angry and hopeless 24/7.
Misinformation, hyperbole, and nihilism may get a lot of reactions on the internet but they sure as fuck aren't actually helping anyone. It starts out as ironic or self-aware or whatever but when that's all you consume it eventually seeps into your thinking and people start living it.
The point of our political engagement should be to help people and ease suffering. Being a misinformed angry nihilist helps noone and causes suffering. It is literally worse than doing nothing.
Case in point here...
I'm glad the tweets got retracted and he gave a correction, but it's gonna be too late. The original assertion (edit: which I'm now confused about) is going to bounce around Twitter and I guarantee it'll pop up again on ERA too. Even when told a twitter hot take is wrong people will insist that it still feels right or rings true or is essentially true or whatever lazy explanation they give for why they want to cling onto misinformation that confirms their biases. Just look at how many times the "all Nancy Pelosi did was read a poem!" thing has popped up in this thread even though it's not true.
As long as we tolerate (or in some spaces celebrate) braindead nihilistic hot takes we're going to keep heading down this road. I've been calling it out when I see it because I can't fucking stand it any more, even from people I "agree" with. It hurts all of us in the end.
edit: looks like the stuff about retraction above may be about comments about the filibuster? I'm a bit confused by what was or wasn't said at this point, but I'll leave it up with this disclaimer because I think my central point still makes sense.
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They did not get it from a tweet.
Biden doesn't support expanding the Supreme Court, White House says
Democrats and activists are calling for changes to the high court after its rulings on gun rights and abortion.
www.google.com
Those past protests you mentioned totally failed and were co-opted. Why would people bother.
It's no way to build change to constantly admonish 3rd party and non-voters. This doesn't get folks to vote nor does it get them on your side yet Era does it all the time as well.
Guilt-tripping people who are already disillusioned by politics is one of the worst ways to convince them. You have to be communicative and cooperative rather than dismissive and haughty.
Even the CNN reporter retracted and said this is not what she said.They did not get it from a tweet.
Biden doesn't support expanding the Supreme Court, White House says
Democrats and activists are calling for changes to the high court after its rulings on gun rights and abortion.
I don't see anything here that contradicts the articles I posted, unless there's a different retraction I'm missing?
Fair enough. I try to be constructive with my contributions but emotions have certainly been running high the past couple of days so I'm sure I haven't held to that as well as I could.
However, as I said above, after the past few years I can't tolerate misinfo any more. I just can't. There are plenty of totally legitimate reasons to critique Dems, the government, the system, etc, without just making shit up. I also have little to no tolerance of people/sources that just want us to be angry, upset, and hopeless 24/7, since it harms the causes and people I genuinely deeply care about.
If you have constructive feedback on how to better respond to people posting misleading, nihilistic hot takes let me know and I'll strive to do better.
Shaming and viral memes making fun of antivaxxers were shown to boost covid vaccination rates. I don't really believe in coddling people from the truth.
It literally says she did not issue a direct response to the question. The headline and article you posted implies that she issued a direct response.
In my experience with people I know personally planting seeds by respectfully asking questions has done the most to change minds. Yelling at someone almost never changes their mind. I don't know how all of that translates to the internet, though.
I also think we're shaped over time by what we passively consume. Reading ERA has certainly changed my views on a number of things even if I never posted about them or debated anything, I just listened and thought about it. Hence my concern about people whose media diet is largely shallow reactionary nihilists...
Somehow I'm just not sure this translates. Antivaxxers are spiteful morons. The disillusioned have reason to be but need to be convinced to act in spite of this and that it will at some point help their cause.
