I hope they make the game more character flashy at that point. It's a first person game. I ain't paying 40 dollars to not see my own character besides pogs.
Survey indicates Blizzard is considering $45 mythic skins in Overwatch 2
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In what way is it predatory? You know what you are getting unlike buying a loot box
I don't mind what they charge as long as it is cosmetic. If it doesn't interfere with gameplay at all I am fine with it.
This is what I come back to all the time, 15 years ago that was one of the biggest gaming controversies of the time. It's so quaint compared to nowadays.
Asking anything more than a few dollars for a skin is complete nonsense. And I don't care if other companies have done it before, that doesn't make it okay.
Back in my day, $50 bought you multiple maps and new weapons released at a steady cadence. Now it turns your Junkrat purple and gives him a little hoodie.
We made the wrong choice.
We made the wrong choice.
Back in my day maps were free! you damn kids get off my lawn.
But yeah it's a fucking joke.
I mean, DLC in general is admittedly a great idea. But it was always going to lead to more egregious examples eventually.
There's a limited edition sea of thieves controller with a time limited skin that goes for thousands on eBay
You could, yeah. But if you want to buy it outright you gotta buy out the shop
This makes the fact that overwatch 1 will cease to exist with overwatch 2's release even more shitty.
Late to this news but I remember some saying it would be cheaper than loot boxes when this was implemented due to a season pass system? Given the rates of OW1 pull rates, I'll go out on a limb and say it was fairly good as a former player but they still got caught up in the general wave of cosmetic hate. I feel like this change will bring in more money in the long run but make skins "harder" to get due to cost reasons.
The game is free. And loot boxes are seen as a bad thing now, so this is the viable option really.
Wait what?
I have hundreds of loot boxes sitting around and tens of thousands in currency? Do I have to open them all and spend all that currency before OW2 launches???
No. The loot boxes will be opened automatically. The currency will transfer but no idea what it can be spent on.
Apex's are much worse lol. The "prestige skins" require you to buy everything from an event. So basically buying $140 or something worth of skins etc from an event or getting an heirloom shard which is virtually impossible lol.
Randomisation is only one aspect which makes loot boxes predatory, and the most notable report on the subject for its legislative impact (the NCC report) explicitly upon aspects such as (purposely dropping the misleading probability disclosures which is more loot box specific and deals with the randomisation aspect): the initial ease of progression (and flood of content) which is followed by a need to grind to unlock content triggering purchases, the usage of in-game currencies to help obfuscate content costs, the aggressive marketing in-game which promotes loot box purchases (including time-sensitivity, pop-ups, ) to exploit a fear of missing out and trigger impulse purchases, and the risk of losing content which was purchased. Most Battle Pass implementations share all of these exploitative and predatory design decisions.
Battle Pass systems, at their very core, are explicitly designed to maximise engagement through the creation of a 'fear of missing out' in not completing the battle pass and losing access to the content (either temporarily or permanently) which you paid for in most implementations. This fear of missing out, which purposely preys on the most vulnerable consumers with an addictive or compulsive personality, is further exploited by offering additional monetisation options to aid in the completion of battle passes and ensure you get all of the content you originally paid for the opportunity to acquire. Battle Passes are continuously advertised and promoted with the 'rare'/'exclusive' premium content heavily promoted to further enforce a purchase, and pop-ups/in-game advertisements heavily pushed onto the customer.
The time required to complete a Battle Pass is purposely obfuscated through the usage of XP and levels without a clear time investment making the advertising an inherently deceptive practice (100 levels to complete the battle pass could mean anything from 1 hour to 1000 hours and this is purposely omitted). The predominantly exponentially distributed XP requirements to advance to later levels absolutely conforms to the same initial 'flood' of content followed by a requirement to grind which was explicitly called out by the NCC as a predatory practice to hook customers into expecting (and thus being ready for exploitation through monetary incentives to maintain that) content quickly and easily.
The transient nature of Battle Pass content, where your purchases can be lost following a suspension, a ban, a revision in content offering by the publisher, etc. is exactly the same as the transient nature of loot box acquired content which was called out as problematic by the NCC (and highlighted as being potentially in breach of consumer protections in many distribute), as customers have little recourse for content which they paid for being revoked.
The randomisation aspect of loot boxes was only one of many aspects which were explicitly called out and highlighted in legislative decisions surrounding loot boxes, and while it's important in how that randomisation allows for links to be made with gambling legislation, most of the other aspects which weighed into the decisioning of loot boxes as exploitative are absolutely shared by Battle Passes (but the lack of randomisation allows them to skirt gambling related legislation, while not only extracting more money from consumers but also featuring most of the exact same exploitative and predatory elements).
While the exact specifics of how Blizzard will implement a Battle Pass are unknown, trying to draw a distinction between how predatory loot boxes and battle passes are solely because the latter lacks randomisation and is up-front in the content contained within shows a lack of understanding as to many of the factors which resulted in views of loot boxes being exploitative (in fact, Loot Boxes which do display the content you will receive, and/or the odds of them, were considered exploitative for many of the reasons above, which Battle Passes share). That sort of narrow view that only the randomisation is problematic would validate loot boxes which explicitly advertise the content you would unlock if you purchased it (and eg set them on a eg x hour refresh timer).
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to get to the amount that your friends have you would need to have bought the battle passes which are 10$ each. There's radianite as part of the free tier but it's minuscule in comparison. I ran out of radianite recently because I bought a weapon bundle as opposed to buying just one gun which I usually do and now I'm slowly grinding away at the paid battle pass so I can fully upgrade all the weapons from that bundle cause there's no way in hell I'm ever gonna purchase radianite
plus 40 radianite upgrades the VFX and finisher, that's correct, but you will still need 15 radianite each to unlock the several color variations
I got curious and just counted the radianite you get from the free tier of the battle pass which amounts to a whopping 30. A season lasts around 50 days usually so yeah, it's not a lot you get for free.
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You're correct, they have been buying the premium battle pass every act. That's an oversight on my part, had no idea the free track granted so few radianite.
*laughs in Apex Legends*
Have about 500 hours in that game too and have yet to get Heirloom Shards.
Have about 500 hours in that game too and have yet to get Heirloom Shards.
No worries, you're good! I just wanted to make sure there's no misunderstanding seeing as some people already thought Valorant had 100$ skins for some reason.
Here is another survey with $15 mythic. Prices seem random just to get a bunch of data i.e. 10 voice lines for $20. Seems to confirm standalone Mythic Skin emotes,
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Here is another survey with $15 mythic. Prices seem random just to get a bunch of data i.e. 10 voice lines for $20. Seems to confirm standalone Mythic Skin emotes,
Reddit - Dive into anything
Now that's the usual pricing (even though it's still expensive af)