I think it's fair to say that memory bandwidth is one of the likely culprits for games having lower than expected resolution. Certainly problematic with alpha effects regardless of compression.
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Switch revision potentially leaked via 5.0 firmware (Codenamed Mariko, 8GB RAM) [speculation]
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I think it's fair to say that memory bandwidth is one of the likely culprits for games having lower than expected resolution. Certainly problematic with alpha effects regardless of compression.
I honestly am hoping if they do a revision it just replaces the current model and is still just called a Switch with the same SKU. That way I can wait until early next year and bring back my current Switch and change it out for a new one under my 2 year geek squad warranty.
Maybe Bayonetta 2 is limited by texel fill rate? Platinum throws alpha effects around like crazy, and even if you have fast cache cache to draw to, fill rate is a fixed limitation.
The only problem I see with the theory 1 is why double the ram? The reason that does make most sense to me is they are using a 128bit bus width, which would require 8gb to get up to double bandwidth? And if they are doubling the bandwidth and the amount, that would indicate a more powerful model.
T210 A2: Regular Switch, A2 because they changed the clockspeeds.
T214: Jericho
T186: TX2
Hard to make sense of those numbers, but my guess would be a die shrunk TX1 with customisations like removing all the codecs Nintendo doesnt need, remove the a53 cores which aren't used anyway etc. Which is basically the same as a TX2 without Denver cores. So what we have is a stripped down, die shrunk semicustom TX1 much like the one we hoped would be in the original Switch. Also I belive they doubled the bus width because thats the only way 8gb would make sense, so they can fully make use of the wider bus. This would mean double bandwidth.
Zelda.
Also resolution: Skyrim, Zelda, and many more are native in handheld but subnative when docked.
I meant 50% more as an upper bound than anything else, probably should have been more clear. My point was just that, even if they increased clocks by 50%, it still wouldn't be a big enough jump in performance to warrant a new Switch Pro, or whatever people would want to call it.
Thunderbolt is both very expensive, and not much use on a new Switch (particularly if it wasn't on the original model). It's also only ever been used on Intel-powered products, although Intel have said they'll be opening it up, I don't know if there's been much progress on that.
Regarding memory bandwidth, there's not a whole lot of point increasing it if you're not increasing the other specs along the way. You'd get a bit of a benefit in bandwidth-limited scenes in a handful of games, but it would be of sporadic benefit and I can't imagine most players would notice the difference.
I'm pretty sure it's also possible to get 8GB of LPDDR4 on the same 64-bit bus as the current Switch, by the way (not that I think they're going to release a Switch successor with 8GB RAM any time soon, but FYI).
Lower than what expected resolution? People seem to be expecting Switch to render everything at a constant 1080p, but XBO doesn't come close to that with most third party games, and it has a larger SoC operating at a far higher power draw.
The logic would be that 1 and 2 would both use 4GB of RAM, as with the current Switch. The 8GB would be just for the home console.
iicr Bayonetta 1&2 also was more stable in portable than docked, both modes offering 720p
That depends on your TV/display though. Zelda is 900p, my TV is 720p.
Do you have actual proof? There's no way 720p docked has worse performance than 720p undocked
there is an analysis from DF, where is what I remember was reported to be the situation with the framerate
The last 2 gens (DS and 3DS) I've bought the first hardware revision and regretted not holding out until the second (third model), so nice try Nintendo, but I'll wait for Switch Mk3.
Would there be much point removing the a53s? They're tiny and while I don't have any knowledge on the subject I'd imagine they are probably used in sleep mode?
They definitely didn't say that. It's definitely the opposite.
Bayo1&2 are identical in docked and undocked modes. Docked is just a much more consistent 60fps.
I think you might remember incorrectly. Bayonetta (2) run way better docked than portable. The thing however is that nothing (2) or barely anything (1) scales at all from portable to docked. It's the same quality, just much more stable.
I still love it's perfect compactness compared to my floppy toy-like 3DS XL, but why would you say it was better than the DSi? I automatically assumed the DSi would be the better model.
Well, for one, DSi lost the GBA slot. Other than that, DSi was technically better but you have to take the timeframe into account. DSi was released 3 years after the DS Lite, and those were some of the hottest years in that generation. Only to offer marginal improvements and little exclusive software. To put that into perspective, 3DS was released "only" 2 years after DSi which by that metric would have made the DSi a very bad purchase, since 3DS was an actual generational leap (with DS/DSi BC for the most part).
DS Lite at launch or first 18 months was a great place to be. Missed that clunky first gen, got sleek hardware, retained GBA compatibility, and the DS software was just exploding in quality and quantity. I guess it would only be slightly regrettable if you got it near DSi launch.
ah ok gotcha, just got reversed which one was getting the more consistent frame rates
It's not very pocket-able as is. If you already need a bag or case to hold it, why not just toss in a power bank with it or buy a good battery case?
Some people rarely take the system out of the dock, and those that do so frequently for commutes have probably been served well enough by the 3 hour life. There was definitely an uproar over the 3DS's battery life after coming from the energizer bunny that was the DS. Ultimately, nobody, including Nintendo, seemed to care much at all and that was purely a handheld device. With the Switch there is even less reason to prioritize improving in that area.
Not sure I ever knew the DSi didn't have a GBA slot. I did actually use that on the Lite, so it was a definate plus for me.
Not sure if I should post it here or make a new topic (or if it was already posted), but a new firmware update is out: 5.0.1
http://en-americas-support.nintendo...endo-switch-system-updates-and-change-history
http://en-americas-support.nintendo...endo-switch-system-updates-and-change-history
One question about the Parker. It throttle like the X1 and will need to be put in a underperfomance, or it will be able to run at full power?
Other question: how much is the power consumption of it? Running at full power it consume the same amount of Switch's undock mode? If yes, Nintendo can use it with overclock on docked mode? What kind of power a overclocked Tegra Parker can archive?
Other question: how much is the power consumption of it? Running at full power it consume the same amount of Switch's undock mode? If yes, Nintendo can use it with overclock on docked mode? What kind of power a overclocked Tegra Parker can archive?