On a counterpoint, PoliGAF/Era is/was also considered one of the worst and most toxic parts of these forums, so it might not be bad for them to have broken up, just not for casting doubt on allegations that people had some reason to be suspicious of given the timing.
I agree but that is basically what they are saying. If my posts can be interpreted in any way that someone thinks fits into this incredibly broad definition "rape apologist " they can feel free to report me and I'll be banned. Or my opinion is marginalized because I'm male. Or I'll get piled on by people for not believing women.
I'm just saying, don't get your hopes up. They haven't exactly kept their word that moderation would be much more open than the other place
You are wrong.
See, this is what I think complicates things; because we're not dealing with a monolithic group, you've had people on different sides of the issue who are feeling like they aren't being served. One that jumped out at me were those who felt that the moderation was weak, a very different tune to what you're hearing in this thread:
www.resetera.com
I think you took the wrong message lol. Take a step back and think about what I am really saying.
I get that some people may feel that way, but in reality there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever between the moderation here and the moderation at the old place. Because there is actually moderation here. The old place has been turned into Evilores own personal right wing shithole rife with racism, sexism, islamaphobia, anti-trans rhetoric, and out right lies. Just go look at the Off Topic or Politic section over there. Or go look at the bans page where the mods insult and demean the people being banned while not actually explaining why they have been banned alot of the time. At least here the staff explains exactly why someone has been banned. And at least here they properly moderate discussions instead of just letting people run wild.
Thanks for reminding me why I as a PoliEra regular never leave the community thread and don't post on the site much any more. We were and are not toxic, but we did often call out people when they acted in bad faith or if they regularly brigaded the thread. I will also say it's curious how you've developed this view of the community seeing as how I've never seen you post in it.
Oh I didn't mean the old place currently, God no lmao. I meant in its prime, like 2006- 2014
And there's a reason why, and it's that I felt I'd be attacked for posting even anything semi-progressive, even if it never even bordered on some of the conspiratorial nonsense some in the camp can be prone to.
You are right.
There are answers to all these questions in the articles. And she worked in the Senate office before she went to college.
This is absolutely right.
I don't think that's a valid counterpoint because I don't see it being true. There are certainly toxic parts but it's definitely not widely spread.
What I see is certain "progressive" posters are the ones being toxic and continue to be toxic attacking anyone and everyone they disagree with. It has happened constantly especially when they are defending Bernie.
I don't post in it either but I don't see what they are saying as being true.
I mean I don't think that I said or implied someone couldn't.
You would not be attacked for merely posting anything progressive in the thread. Despite what you may have heard, we're not centrist but instead liberal posters who are much more inclined to agree with progressive viewpoints.
debuting with hashtag "demexit" did her no favors either.
yea'd be great if we stopped labeling everyone, from era members to non era members.
man, that would be an october surprise that would suuuck
ive been on GAF/Resetera for 14+ years and i've literally never heard this.
The Vox and PBS pieces were definitely the quality that I feel most were looking for.
Then it's gonna be very much agree to disagree, because my experiences with PoliEra were always the other way around, i.e. neoliberal posters who made the OT feel unwelcoming to people who didn't share their particular brand of politics even nothing they posted was offensive or even a bad take (tho obviously there are people in political threads outside of the PoliEra OT who post some shit that is way too defensive of Bernie when it shouldn't be).
So your solution is to have every single person air out their past trauma so you don't try to silence them, and everyone else deserves to be assumed a bad actor as a matter of course? My point here is that YOU DON'T KNOW what people have been through. You've been assuming that dissenting voices are bad actors based on NOTHING.
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I honestly don't think so. I mean Poli-ERA is an extension of PoliGAF which was peak neoliberal wank fest
Just wanted to highlight this part of your post again. Couldn't be more spot-on.
The only reason why you call them neo liberal is because some of them didn't 100% agree with the things(or I this case one particular person who ran for president twice and lost) you agree with. Period.
