That explains it... I must have missed an announcement video for that or something.
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From what I've read about Hells, it seems like a well animated movie (from Studio Madhouse, so that's not a surprise) that has an interesting story, but some problems with characterizations and subplots. It makes me wonder how much (if any) free reign TFS will get with the dub, or if they'll only be given permission to do a direct translation, since they seem to specialize in retelling an overarching story with a lot of added character development and subplots.
It's a <2 hour movie, and they will almost definitely not have to do as much editing on it as they do for an episode of DBZA, so even if it flops I don't see it tying them up for too long.
There's been at least one decent Inuyasha Abridged series, but would legit go for TFS doing one even if only covering the original anime and how it ended back then.
The one I watched:
TFS isn't publishing Hells, Discotek is publishing it. TFS was merely hired to produce the English dub.
That means they're not chained to the project. It doesn't really affect them if it does great or bombs, TFS wins either way because they got paid to do work, and if their work was good enough at an affordable enough price, Discotek (or maybe even other publishers) might be willing to send more gainful employment their way.
Although, if the movie bombs, Discotek (TFS's most likely future employer) might not be able to afford to hire them for other projects, and if it does great, Discotek will definitely be able to afford to do it again, so it's indirectly good for TFS if the movie does great.
Man, feels weird that a whole new Dragon Ball series has come and gone, and we're still waiting on Super Saiyan 2 abridged.
But then, quality over quantity and all that.
But then, quality over quantity and all that.
that's the only thing we're guaranteed to get unfortunately :'|
Oh, yikes... I expected DBZF to end, but that doesn't speak well to the state of affairs for TFS itself. Hopefully they're just trying to streamline themselves?
According to Reddit this might be the cause.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeamFourStar/comments/88f893/question_about_the_website/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeamFourStar/comments/88f893/question_about_the_website/
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KaiserNeko posted an update on Episode 60 and TFS in general this morning on discord
At the very least he's still caging his language like this might not be the end of the show in total, just the end of the Cell Saga. Hopefully he doesn't make himself sick from working himself too hard again. I know how much he cares about this project, but of everyone involved it always seems like the episodes take the heaviest toll on Kaiser specifically.
I mean I'm pretty sure Kaiser does the most work on DBZA being the sole editor as well as involved in voicing and scripting
Pretty much. As far as I can tell, the entire show comes together because of him. I wish they could find a way to lighten the load on him, but I suppose the editing process needs to all be done by one person - or at least on one computer. E-mailing raw footage back and forth between different editors wouldn't really work.
I just worry about the guy, since I know the stress of working on DBZA all the ways he does has made him sick in the past.
Thank you God. This was the thread bump I was waiting for. Hopefully it comes out in June instead of July.
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And it's also confirmed that we're getting the future Trunks epilogue:
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but if the four part final was 4 different episodes it would end up with the same amount of episodes as dragonball GT letting them make a joke that they would do GT next :P
Kaiser's been pretty clear that he doesn't want other people to do the editing for him, so I'd expect things to remain as they are in that regard
Time changes things. I still think if they go down the path of Buu, Kaizer should find a co-editor he trusts....... which could take forever.
That's my hope. Either Kaiser finds a way to outsource or share the editing burden, or at least finds someone he trusts to help with the lipflap edits. I think those are the part that drive him the most insane, just based on his edit walkthrough videos.
Excellent news from Kaiser, and he genuinely sounds pretty elated to be moving forwards with both episode 60, as well as their other ventures. I watch a lot of their streams and this week Lani's throat was pretty shot from recording episode 60, so if Vegeta's scenes are already underway, they must be hitting this full throttle.
They already have a very popular streaming IP in StreamFourStar and all of the associated shows from that. Not sure how well FMK and Bento in general is doing for them, but it seems to be mostly a labor of love there so it might not matter as much.
That said, there will never be a new IP they could make that could rival DBZA in terms of animation, writing, etc.
I feel like they could do a DBZ Kai for all of Buu saga and then just abridge the final moments of Buu and End of Z
if they do that they should at least be finished before 2020 and they can give the series better closure
I'd be open to that. I'm sure I sound like a broken record at times, but there's not much I find good about the Buu Saga. And what good there is has nothing to do with Buu.
That actually gives me a good idea... do you think there is a enough non-buu material in the buu saga that they could simply not have him at all? Or write him off in a single line or two ala Garlic Jr.
Obviously those two are on completely different scales, but I know there is a ton of filler/side plots in Buu saga. Would be neat if they could work that into a slice-of-life.
That would be my preferred way of them going about it, personally. Saiyaman & Videl were the highlight.
So Lani talked about the Buu Saga on his God of War stream. Stating that, if they do decide to do Buu, they want to do it differently. As in, at least produce 10 scripts at once and then make the episodes and release them over time rather than doing one episode at a time. So sort of like FF7 Machinabridged.
The way Lani talked about it makes me really think Episode 60 won't be the end. Just the last for a long while.
The way Lani talked about it makes me really think Episode 60 won't be the end. Just the last for a long while.
I like that idea personally. Seems like a good idea as we'll have a long period of nothing and then suddenly boom, 10 weeks worth of episodes (assuming 10 scripts)
I've always been on the "it's not ending here, they'll definitely do Buu eventually" train, but the way Kaiser's talking here makes me think otherwise.
At this point, I'm expecting they'll treat this like a series finale, but cage it with a "maybe someday we'll do more" statement that never goes anywhere.
At this point, I'm expecting they'll treat this like a series finale, but cage it with a "maybe someday we'll do more" statement that never goes anywhere.
They've made it clear there's no final decision of ending it here.
Yeah. I don't think we'll ever get a formal statement on that front either way, honestly.
It would be severely out of character for them to end it without formally saying they are ending it. They have been pretty honest by saying they aren't sure what they are doing. If they honestly didn't think they'd ever go back to it they'd say something.
That said, I too am expecting a decent sized break after episode 60, and I also expect if they do do Buu, that it'll be in a different format (I'd imagine 5-6 minute episodes or a heavily reduced total episode count).
Try multiplying the a song of ice and fire books (game of thrones) by berserk and then you get DBZ abridged. To give you context, to get from episode 1 of DBZ to basically the end of cell saga....in episode 1 I was in highschool. Now I have two university degrees, working in my career of choice and getting married this summer. A lifetime has basically passed
Edit: their should be a thread about this. Where you were in episode 1 of dbza and where are you now
Lanipator says that if they do Buu it will be like FF7 Machinabridged. Basically scripting and making 10 episodes at a time and releasing them weekly. So longer waits for episodes in general but shorter wait between episodes once they air.
I mean obviously after Cell they will do another episode of dbz kai abridged. they have to... right o.o;