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dex3108

Member
Oct 26, 2017
22,639
First they say it doesn't include new campaign and then they say it is finale of the series. How the hell it can be both? XD

And if is true I will take my hat off to Activision for selling remake as new full priced game.
 

RecRoulette

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
26,044
I mainly buy Call of Duty on Infinity Ward years and it's been a long time since I've been this excited
 

antitrop

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,631
Taking out No Russian is obvious BS. No reason to outright remove it when the game already gave the option to skip the level entirely and all the controversy is already over and done with from 10 years ago.
 

criteriondog

I like the chili style
Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,177
That rumor has to be fake. No campaign? I mean, we knew that BO4 didn't have one because it was cut due to it not meeting expectations, but specialists and pick ten in modern warfare multiplayer?
No thanks.
I want classic Modern Warfare style MP.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
Dont know how reputable this source but here some info for MW4 I guess.

I don't buy it. As they say, there is nothing backing it up. (Also it kinda reeks of bait designed to rile people up. Especially going out of its way to mention that No Russian has been removed.) Especially when you have one of the oldest IW developers -- no longer with the company -- making remarks like this in response.
 

Deleted member 1777

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
637
The leaving out No Russian mission is obvious bullshit, I mean I can understand that folks find it distasteful or whatever but it's a key part of the story/what starts the ball rolling for the russian invasion and as has been said you could already skip it anyway. List screams made up nonsense in general.
 

Dark Ninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,071
I can see this being true just due to the rumors of Modern Warfare Remastered for over a year now and it wasn't going to have MP. I can see them just throwing that in there to get that check mark of having a campaign. They can then focus on fixing their MP which has been the weakest of them all for a while now and the Battle Royale mode which they might have to build from the ground up since they don't use the exact same version of Radiant that Treyarch does each company has their own they have built at this point. These companies are pretty competitive with eachother and don't like using work the others do (I know dumb). I can believe the specialist thing as they tried before with Infinite Warfare it was really bad though. This also wont be a PS5 and whatever the next Xbox is this will just be a current gen title. Being able to make a game with Campaign, MP, Zombies, and Battle Royale is an insane task for their timetable even for a company with a ton of money.
 

Maneil99

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
5,252
Dont know how reputable this source but here some info for MW4 I guess.

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It's fake.

You don't hire Naughty Dog writers to do nothing for 3 years at 200k.

You won't be seeing Zombies in MW4.


MW4 will have its own BR, SP, and Extinction like mode

Chaos Silencer posts fake leaks every year
 

Lyonaz

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
492
No new campaign sounds like so much bullshit.

It would be okay if they gave us a remastered MW trilogy and return of Special Ops from MW2.
Enough with the Zombies, give us more solo/co-op Spec Ops missions.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,507
I hope that's fake, especially the MW2 campaign part. Then again, I suppose it doesn't matter to me because the BR mode will probably end up the only thing I'll play.
 

poklane

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,964
the Netherlands
It's fake.

You don't hire Naughty Dog writers to do nothing for 3 years at 200k.

You won't be seeing Zombies in MW4.


MW4 will have its own BR, SP, and Extinction like mode

Chaos Silencer posts fake leaks every year
You're definitely going to see Zombies because it simply sells. They already forced it into AW, IW and WW2, whatever we're getting this year wont be different.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
MW4 will have its own BR, SP, and Extinction like mode
Speaking of Extinction, I always felt that Activision/Infinity Ward made a mistake jumping on the zombies bandwagon instead of keeping it as something special for Treyarch's games. Yes, fans dig that shit. But with Ghosts, Raven had introduced a very fun PvE game mode that was different. Being different is good. The Call of Duty series suffers from pandering in an effort to milk as many sales as possible, and it leads to the various studios creating products that don't feel as distinct as they should. They really should bring back Extinction and work to make their titles stand out compared. Infinite Warfare's focus on space combat and TV-style space opera storytelling was good. You couldn't get that from Black Ops. Just as you couldn't get mindscrew storytelling from Infinity Ward, which made Black Ops stand out back in the day.
 

Maneil99

Banned
Nov 2, 2017
5,252
You're definitely going to see Zombies because it simply sells. They already forced it into AW, IW and WW2, whatever we're getting this year wont be different.
They hinted at extinction with the last IW dlc including the aliens. Also WW2 had very poor Zombies playernumbers and engagement
 

funky

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,527
With BLOPS4 selling well... I can honestly see them sticking to this no campaign thing
 

Ryuhza

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
11,444
San Diego County
The plus side of every studio doing Zombies is that it's led to a lot of QoL improvements that weren't happening when it was only Treyarch. Ideas implemented into Infinite Warfare's take (burn cards that aren't random, customizable starter weapons, weapon recovery after death), and WWII's take (customizable loadouts with different special weapons, starters, and equipment) found their way into Black Ops IIII, and the same will likely continue to this year.
 

Ausroachman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,397
Call of Duty Specter ?



EDIT:

I realise this is probably nothing to do with the next COD since she posts lots of death stuff on her feed. but man imagine if it was :)
 
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Potterson

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Oct 28, 2017
6,421
"Modern Warfare 4 is the finale of the series" - but the campaign is MW2 campaing. Yeah, right.

Also, does it make sense for Activision to release new Battle Royale year after year? I was thinking they will make that every other year. They've got people buying COD Points to get silly cosmetic stuff...
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
Lol. Makes me wonder what will happen if COD takes a year off, seems like its Activision's blood at the moment, they can't keep running without it.
The purpose of having 3 different game studios with Raven in support is to be able to deliver a new game every year. The system they've set up is specifically designed to deliver a new Call of Duty every year. If you like a particular Call of Duty sub-series, you have to wait three years between releases. (And that's if your lucky, because the frequent tantrums of the Call of Duty fanbase often bring an abrupt end to series that could have been quite promising if given a sequel.)
I wanted AW2 but we got a ho-hum WW2 instead.
I am a bit of a defender of WWII, but you know what? I hate how we got the vanilla ice cream of WWII narratives. The French resistance mission in WWII was a glimpse of something the game could have been. It could have been a bold, striking, female-lead WWII FPS stealth game. Like some kind of throwback to Medal of Honor: Underground. Instead we got Americans in France wishing they were in Band of Brothers.

Advanced Warfare was really, really good. So well paced, so well acted, and mechanically super slick. I hate how Call of Duty campaigns are basically treated like second class citizens. They're always mocked, scorned, implied that their best will never be as good as a game that doesn't have Call of Duty on the box. So many years it feels like these studios are throwing pearls in front of swine. Especially the games that did truly special stuff like Black Ops 2 and its really well done branching narrative and remarkably daring political themes for a game series constantly sucking up to American politics. It's like they're trapped in this cycle. Their games are carrying around this dead weight on top of them -- the accumulated bitterness and cynicism of the Call of Duty fanbase. I remember when Call of Duty: Black Ops came out. The numbers, Mason! People gave a shit. These games had respect. The games never did anything to lose that respect. The audience just got bitter and jaded and unable to enjoy nice things anymore. I kinda feel like the tipping point was Modern Warfare 3. That was the game where the Call of Duty fanbase began to eat itself with hate. Things got worse around Black Ops 2. That was when the death threats started flooding in. People threatening to kill developers over balancing tweaks. When the Call of Duty fanbase turned into a hateful, vicious shitshow in a very public way.

When Advanced Warfare came out, it had such a fantastic campaign. One huge swathes of the fanbase will still describe a "shit". That was another sign of the fanbase was falling apart. They starting calling things "shit" at the drop of a hat. Everything was shit now. People are still sore at Ghosts and will often casually label the entire game as "shit".

You know, Ghosts was not as well made as Infinite Warfare. Ghosts was not as cohesive as the Modern Warfare games. It was very clearly the product of a new team finding their feet under shaky conditions. But if you chop out the messy MP and leave the campaign and Extinction, there is a lot to like about Ghosts. It's a likeable game. It was dumb, but it was a dumb ROLLERCOASTER. Ghosts genuinely has some of the most visually striking set pieces of any FPS game. Like that sequence with the strobe lights in the dark. That runaway train set piece. Swimming with sharks. The space sequence that was straight up recycled for Infinite Warfare because it was emotionally raw and spectacular. Rappelling down the side of the building. Escaping from a collapsing skyscraper. The game even had a shameless The Dark Knight Rises meets Mission Impossible 3 sequence.


I have never understood how a mature adult could witness this and say, "This is total shit." How jaded must your soul be to not crack a smile? Just a little bit of mirth as Gabriel "Big Guy" Rorke crashes a plane with almost no survivors? To just find that a teeeeensy bit fun?

We were robbed of Ghosts 2 starring GABRIEL RORKE, RILEY THE DOG, and some other guys nobody cares about. We could have had a Call of Duty that took this immensely over the top narrative to a conclusion. Instead Infinity Ward had to go crawling off to make their game futuristic because the fanbase whined about they were sick of modern warfare games and wanted something new. But three years later the fanbase was bitching again and poor Infinite Warfare copped one of the worst GAMER RAGE incidents of all time. It's depressing. I miss the old days, I really do. I hate what has happened to Call of Duty. I hate how the developers are treated like garbage by a shitty, shitty selfish and hateful and bitter fanbase that I'm ashamed to share a series with.
 

INST

Member
Nov 2, 2017
2,647
Haven't really gamed in years but this has my curiosity. Granted I haven't really liked a CoD since MW2.

In MW3 there was this horde mode like thing, I hope we get that next to Spec Ops. Prolly not, but I loved playing that. I think it was also a part of Ghosts. Which in hindsight really didn't deserve all the shit it got, seeing where the series went from there.

No SP would feel very wrong. Loved CoD4 and especially the MW2 SP. MW3 was meh on that front.



It was stuff like this that makes me feel nostalgic and want to fall in love with it all over again.