I honestly didn't see a difference other than judder it introduces.
Or maybe because PC is outputting 4K/60hz and media player is doing the conversion it didn't work properly as it's meant for 24hz.
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Television Displays and Technology Thread: The ERA of OLED is Now
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Or maybe because PC is outputting 4K/60hz and media player is doing the conversion it didn't work properly as it's meant for 24hz.
Make sure you set you ingame brightness and HDR luminance correctly. I'm using HDR game mode on my B7 and don't have a problem with darkness. I think the HDR is over done in that game, the highlights clip badly and can ruin the iq in places because the specular highlights are very jaggy and distracting.
There's a difference between the inherent panel processing of the picture verses controls you have access to.
For example, with the FW update that improved the picture quality of the LG's, that was all done internally meaning you didn't have to fiddle with the controls or anything to take advantage of it.
With game mode, all that internal processing is turned off along with having limited access to calibration controls so you end with a compromised picture for the sake of lower input lag.
Makes sense, I wonder how does this work then with PC Input as you can use all modes in that, but it has 21ms. I'd assume it has those things turned off? Also I haven't seen anyone testing whether or not those improvements are also included in the Game Mode, as there's still some processing there too but I guess it only effects the ones with higher input lag.
Might give the other modes a try on consoles for PC there's not really much of a choice unless you want to lose 4:4:4, on console all I know is that playing Splatoon 2 on Standard I immediately noticed the input latency with motion controls, but games that don't use motion could be fine.
Well you can't do 4:4:4 RGB on consoles during 4K HDR due to limited bandwidth. But you can with SDR at least.
Yup, I don't have consoles on PC Input for that reason. I'm not actually sure does Switch for example output 4:4:4 or is it 4:2:2, I think PS4 has option for RGB but other than that I have no clue.
Ah you're right. Hm, now this puts me wondering if I should turn that to PC Input too and use it.
Choices of life.
Lies, all Switch games I've played so far on 55B7 have looked awesome, kinda hard to even imagine they're 1080p and under.
There's no way it will look worse on The B7 then it does on the Vizio. I think you're worried needlessly.
As for whether or not to use PC input on switch, verdict is still out for me as well. Seeing as we don't have HDR it doesn't really cause any issues to do so. However, we lose access to some additional minor processing options, like dynamic contrast etc. I think I'll probably go with full range though.
Speaking of which, the TV switches to a different profile when going to HDR right? So for SDR gaming I can use 4:4:4 but when it switched to HDR it will go to 4:2:2/0 right? Without me needing to do anything?
I can relate. Just started a new job earning a bit more money and have even looking at OLED TVs but I also get a lot of use out of my current TV's passive 3D. So have been eyeing up LG B6s on ebay. I'm hoping they announce at least a few 3D capable TV's in January but not holding my breath
Hook that shit up! Yeah, you can now really tell it's a 1080p game and the slight aliasing is a little more noticeable, but the game looks phenomenal on that OLED screen regardless.
I though it was 900p?
But anyway yeah Mario can look really good, at times I thought it rivaled my PS4...though I did just get a Pro.
Looks like I'll also do 35 for gaming then. I'm actually fine with the OLED light being lower in a dark room but when I game, I usually have one light on.
Yup, there are differences with quality. Highly suggest checking reviews from various sites and see which ones fit your budget. Sony, Panasonic and Oppo seem to be the brands you should check out.
UHD Blu-ray players are pretty limited right now. I did a good 3-4 hours of research on what to get, excluding the Oppo because its price is so high, and I ended up settling on the Philips BPD 7502. There are cheaper players out there, but a lot of them have build quality problems or don't support all flavors of HDR.
I'd imagine we'll see a lot more UHD players available after CES next year, so it might be in your best interest to wait.
Crazy that people still have to fight ABL. I hated it on my old Samsung E8000 Plasma. Shit would visibly turn off the screen during breaks in credits or black screens before a show would resume. Got rid of it for a Panny ST50 right away.
Just watched the review for the Samsung QLED from Vincent and they added ABL to it even tho their screens don't even need it. At least it can be turned off with some settings. I don't understand why this shit ain't completely optional tbh. They need to stop thinking for the consumer when it comes to those auto brightness crap.
The ABL only lowers brightness when the average picture level exceeds a certain amount of nits (I think it's around 130 on the 2017 OLEDs). It doesn't affect black screens. The ABL on OLEDs is also way less aggressive than it was on plasmas. I could see it all the time on my Kuro, especially during commercials where they like to have all white screens. On the plasma the ABL would make those screens visibly dim, whereas on the OLED I nearly get blinded. On the OLEDs, in my opinion, it is a non-issue and also defeatable if you lower the OLED light to around 130 nits, which is plenty bright in a dim room.
Well for Chase and discover they send a check in the mail, so that might be why you are still waiting. Usually takes about a week for me
I did the 5% test on my LG B7 after doing a pixel refresh. It looks kinda sad. Did I lose the panel lottery?
Settings
LG OLEDs
ISF Dark
OLED 35
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
5% test video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4Wy7vE8-o&feature=youtu.be
Settings
LG OLEDs
ISF Dark
OLED 35
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
5% test video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4Wy7vE8-o&feature=youtu.be
I did the 5% test on my LG B7 after doing a pixel refresh. It looks kinda sad. Did I lose the panel lottery?
Settings
LG OLEDs
ISF Dark
OLED 35
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
5% test video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4Wy7vE8-o&feature=youtu.be
Mine was cleaner than that but it was about the same minus what you have in the left side. I noticed mine has a minor yellow tint at the left edge from certain angles with a pure white image altho none these issues are noticeable with normal viewing. So if you don't see that shit while watching regular content, I wouldn't worry about it.
I need to pay attention to the left side of the screen in content, I know I've seen the vertical band that is about the middle right of the screen on some dark scenes, which is kind of a bummer.
I guess if you see that stuff with normal content, def get it replaced.
I did the 5% test on my LG B7 after doing a pixel refresh. It looks kinda sad. Did I lose the panel lottery?
Settings
LG OLEDs
ISF Dark
OLED 35
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
5% test video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4Wy7vE8-o&feature=youtu.be
That looks worse than my 2016 c6p. But i don't notice any of it during normal viewing so I got over it. My isn't perfect but good enough. Do you notice it during normal watching?
I did the 5% test on my LG B7 after doing a pixel refresh. It looks kinda sad. Did I lose the panel lottery?
Settings
LG OLEDs
ISF Dark
OLED 35
Contrast 85
Brightness 50
5% test video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi4Wy7vE8-o&feature=youtu.be
is that a stuck pixel? the pinkish one on the top of TV?
2016 here. But I'm at around 45 standard and 90 for HDR and my room is pretty dark. I do most of my viewing in Game Mode though. Think my friend has his 2017 set at around 35/75 or something if that helps. 2017 panels are a little brighter.
My first B6 was way worse than that. Did one exchange and think I hit the panel lottery. I guess the question is... Do you actually notice any issues with normal content? I always avoid running any of these tests on new sets unless I'm noticing something is off during normal viewing and think I might want to get an exchange. Otherwise I just become obsessive about non-issues lol It wouldn't hurt to try one replacement. Chances are you'll get a cleaner panel than that if it's bothering you.
Define normal. :) I have seen a vertical band in dark scenes (not black).
I think that is my cell phone camera doing some autofocus thing or something, it's not seen in real life.
Hmm...will need to consider a swap. It's a local dealer so the swap would be relatively painless.
just keep in mind that is is almost impossible to find a perfect panel, that includes, OLED, LED/IPs, etc.. People that claim to have a perfect panel has not really looked closely. I always find some minor thing if I look close enough (like backlight bleed, etc..).
If that does not bother you during regular content, just forget about it. Those "defects" will get better as the TV "breaks in"
If anyone with LG OLEDs want more calibration tips (SDR) aside from RTings, I found this video. I really liked his webOS menu video which was how I found him in the first place. This is pretty useful info and he goes a bit more in-depth with the advanced color settings which most of us might not even touch.
Yeah, see those two upward facing grills? It's supposed to direct sound upwards and reflect on your ceilings. No idea how effective it is though.
Who knows... What I do know is that for $600 it better be the best Dolby Atmos solution out there... lol
People say they're pretty effective. Not sure if this model but it seems they work in general.
I have a 55" OLED LGB6V. Mind you I have the latest update that dims Game Mode!
People here have around 35 in OLED Light, which is crazy as when I go down to that level shit is DAAARK. I have my cranked to 100 on both SDR Game Mode and HDR Game Mode and Movie Viewing. What I do want though are other peoples settings who have a B6. I will post mine down below and we can discuss which ones are the best settings (the closest to best atleast) for both SDR Game Mode and HDR Game Mode and Movie Viewing.
OLED Light: 100
Contrast : 100 in HDR Game Mode (In SDR And Movie I have it on 78)
Brightness: 50
Sharpness: 10
Colour: 55
Tint 0
Colour Temperature: W45
Advanced controls
Dynamic Contrast: Low (due to the dimming)
Dynamic Color: Off
Colour Gamut: Normal (This is set to Wide on SDR Game Mode, no way to change it)
Super Resolution: Off
Picture options
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Black level: Low (Limited on PS4 both on SDR and HDR)
Motion Eye Care: Off
TruMotion: Off
People here have around 35 in OLED Light, which is crazy as when I go down to that level shit is DAAARK. I have my cranked to 100 on both SDR Game Mode and HDR Game Mode and Movie Viewing. What I do want though are other peoples settings who have a B6. I will post mine down below and we can discuss which ones are the best settings (the closest to best atleast) for both SDR Game Mode and HDR Game Mode and Movie Viewing.
OLED Light: 100
Contrast : 100 in HDR Game Mode (In SDR And Movie I have it on 78)
Brightness: 50
Sharpness: 10
Colour: 55
Tint 0
Colour Temperature: W45
Advanced controls
Dynamic Contrast: Low (due to the dimming)
Dynamic Color: Off
Colour Gamut: Normal (This is set to Wide on SDR Game Mode, no way to change it)
Super Resolution: Off
Picture options
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG NR: Off
Black level: Low (Limited on PS4 both on SDR and HDR)
Motion Eye Care: Off
TruMotion: Off
Not according to this video, where you can see clearly that setting it to other than Normal, you get to saturated colors.
Man, this is the first I've seen with a different opinion. Guess I'll switch it over and see how it looks. Trying to keep up with calibration with these TVs is dizzying.
Hey guys, I'm in the market for a 4k HDR tv. I'm seeing a lot about the OLED LG C7 and the Sony 900/930.
If budget isn't a concern, what do you mostly recommend as its primary use will be gaming? I do have a PS4 Pro to take advantage of this.
Reading through this makes me nervous. I'm worried about the burn in on the OLED, but if I don't get OLED will I hate myself for not having it seeing how so many people talk it it up?
If budget isn't a concern, what do you mostly recommend as its primary use will be gaming? I do have a PS4 Pro to take advantage of this.
Reading through this makes me nervous. I'm worried about the burn in on the OLED, but if I don't get OLED will I hate myself for not having it seeing how so many people talk it it up?
I don't think you have though... please just go back every 5 pages and you'll see this very same question almost verbatim.
But to answer the question. Permanent burn in extremely rare to non existent in OLED. Image retention happens but almost always clears up within 2 to 10 minutes. The Sony X930E is one of the best LED televisions, but it is no OLED. While it does get extremely bright, the OLED will give you much better input lag, gaming response, and perfect blacks. Price being no bar, get the OLED unless size becomes an issue. The X930E and Z9D are some of the best LED televisions you can get. But a B7, C7, E7 and A1E are pretty much generally the best overall 4K televisions you can get and them being OLED is the reason. Inky blacks, great viewing angles, great color accuracy and lag.
I know right? That is why I want peoples settings so we can see how far off we are from each others settings haha.
I always recommend OLED. LED's are good to with their brightness and good input lag, but the C7 I think has around 21 MS which is more than OK. And don't worry about burn-ins. I've had my B6 on almost every day for several gaming hours and I have never gotten a burn-in or IR. I do a picture cleaning every week from the built-in tool in the TV-set. With OLED's you get that sweet sweet crisp image and that sweet sweet true black mmhm.
Would this video being made for the 2016 models make any difference for 2017 models?
He says that in 2017 models, LG should make the normal option more clear by calling it auto and that's what they did. So the video doesn't concern 2017 models.
I'm playing Wind Waker HD right now, and I Longley pondered between wide and auto, and I find the picture way more beautiful with the wide option.
Usually I'm always going for accuracy, but I never played wind Waker HD on another set, so I don't know if what I'm getting is accurate or not.
I need to do further tests, but it's not easy with my busted TV who won't accept any hdmi CEC compatible device...
I'm playing Wind Waker HD right now, and I Longley pondered between wide and auto, and I find the picture way more beautiful with the wide option.
Usually I'm always going for accuracy, but I never played wind Waker HD on another set, so I don't know if what I'm getting is accurate or not.
I need to do further tests, but it's not easy with my busted TV who won't accept any hdmi CEC compatible device...
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