For 6 years now, though? They are playing the long game with these gimmick TVs for awhile:They probably don't see the point in marketing OLED when they've got something better in the oven.
They probably don't see the point in marketing OLED when they've got something better in the oven.
is the X90F just the X900E with the X1 Extreme? if so this was a total failure, also X1 Extreme for the third year in a row? They spent pennies to develop this year's tvs.
It's a failure if it's like that because it means that your 2018 flagship lcd is barely better than a mid tier of last year and worse than the 2017 and 2016 flagships.That doesn't sound like a failure as x900e got rave reviews for pretty much everything outside of the Android OS and dolby vision which using the X1 Extreme should address. Hopefully more dimming zones and and higher nit output. Crossing my fingers at better pricing but its already priced right in between the budget models and higher-end leds
Yeah that was my first thought too lol. I'm curious about the price because once they do give us that DV update I know I won't be able to help but start to compare players/prices that can do it later this year lol.Awww yess Dolby vision added but weird it's called the x700 when the current model is the x800 and doesn't have Dolby vision.
When will we get to know the prices for this models? Close to release?
What Samsung has for this year? Outside their very dubious mled which could stand for marketing LEDIt's a failure if it's like that because it means that your 2018 flagship lcd is barely better than a mid tier of last year and worse than the 2017 and 2016 flagships.
The x900e has like 45 dimming zone which is kind of a joke. This year's Sony output is kinda like last year's Samsung one if i'm right and that's all they have to show.
As if you can just whip out a new display tech and then have it be price and performance competitive with what is out there. This mLED stuff is just marketing nonsense to grab attention. Happens all the time at CES.
Sony could also sell their CLEDIS if they want to but who on earth could buy it.MicroLED has been around for a while. It's finally reaching a point to where they can manufacture it reliably, which is what Samsung was showcasing with The Wall. I can absolutely see it over taking OLED since the peak nits is supposed to be significantly higher.
Can we stop saying this
like, yeah, tech is always moving, but we should be excited for the next big thing
And I'm sorry but HDMI 2.1 is worth the wait, it's worth the investment. Why would I buy something now when it's right around the corner? The difference between 2.0 and 2.1 is HUGE. (not aimed at you Bob)
Sony could also sell their CLEDIS if they want to but who on earth could buy it.
You won't be able to buy a TV fully HDMI 2.1 compliant until Q2 2019 so that's not ready "around the corner". IMO the improvements in 2.1 are very nice, but I wouldn't call it huge. That's just me.
Which none of the current game consoles can support.
Sure. I do think Samsung is planning on bringing microLED as their answer to OLED in the next couple years with standard sizes like 55, 65 and so on.
There are different degrees.There is literally something new for TV sets every year. So I don't think it's silly to say if you are waiting for the next big thing you will always be waiting.
Which none of the current game consoles can support.
2.1 is a 2020 thing.
That's news to me - X1X doesn't have a 2.1 HDMI, though?That isn't really what I was replying to though.
For PC users it's a more immediate benefit of course. X1X just needs a patch apparently as well.
Ah, yes, I did read that. I didn't hear they were planning on patching it in.It does support VRR.
No 2.1 just means it won't support HFR material but that's for PCs.
Ah, yes, I did read that. I didn't hear they were planning on patching it in.
I agree, thanks for clarifying! :)Well I don't know if it's enabled by default or will require a patch honestly, but VRR will be a benefit to those players regardless.
Are we expecting a price drop for the tcl 55p or is $600 ( best buy) gonna be the best price we're gonna see for the foreseeable future
TEN THOUSAND NITS
(prototype)
Their previous prototype was 4000 nits. We'll see when we actually get those numbers in consumer models.
Id probably wait until 2020 because there will be more devices will be out to leverage HDMI 2.1 besides the tv. Unless PS5 is out in 2019.There are different degrees.
By all means, buy a TV today if you need one, or if you upgrade frequently and want one.
- Something like the change from 60Hz fixed refresh to 120Hz variable refresh is huge. NTSC has been 60Hz since the 1940s. It may not have made it in 2018, but should arrive next year.
- 10x higher peak brightness levels is very significant for HDR, and could also enable things like better strobed modes to improve motion handling for all media. But affordable consumer µLED displays are likely 5+ years away, so I would not suggest waiting for one.
- LG's OLED changes from 2016-2018 have all been relatively minor. Newer models are better, but not significantly so. Going from ~125 to ~150 nits full-screen brightness, and eliminating the ABL when set below that, is tiny in comparison.
But there are many good reasons to wait for 2019 TVs if buying a TV is a rare occurrence.
I did not expect to be keeping my current TV for 7+ years now, but there's been absolutely nothing for me which justifies the cost of upgrading since then. I regret having saved a little money to buy the 46" model rather than the 52" one back then, and would much rather wait and buy a high-end TV that will last a similar length of time.
Ultimately, it's mostly motion-handling which matters for me, and it was not until Sony's OLED last year with 60Hz Black Frame Insertion that I would have even considered buying an OLED.
But there are still far too many limitations, and too few manufacturers that care about good motion clarity without using interpolation.
LG models are up on the site.
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED77W8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65E8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED77C8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65B8PUA-oled-4k-tv
New models support 3D LUT Auto Cal for all modes including gaming.
https://referencehometheater.com/2018/commentary/what-is-a-3d-lut/
LG offers a variety of innovative and state-of-the-art flat screen televisions to fit your unique needs including:
Not really. You're more likely to do more harm than good near-black with anything less than those Klein K10-A meters, which are about $7000. I would stick to the 10pt or 20pt calibration in the user menus if you're using anything less.Does this really mean anything for anyone without a super expensive colorimeter and professionally priced software? Aka, anyone but an ISF certified calibrator.
I hope it is, but that seems unlikely.Regarding the 77" C8
3D IS BACK??????Am I reading this right???
Please God... I thought I would forever have to search for the 2016 77" model (which still cost more than ALL of their TVs) to get my perfect TV.
Thank God!
LG models are up on the site.
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED77W8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65E8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED77C8PUA-oled-4k-tv
http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-OLED65B8PUA-oled-4k-tv
New models support 3D LUT Auto Cal for all modes including gaming.
https://referencehometheater.com/2018/commentary/what-is-a-3d-lut/
Love the new Panasonic OLED design. Just a black monolith.
Does the fact that it's being displayed at CES mean it will be sold in the US?
Does this really mean anything for anyone without a super expensive colorimeter and professionally priced software? Aka, anyone but an ISF certified calibrator.
Does this really mean anything for anyone without a super expensive colorimeter and professionally priced software? Aka, anyone but an ISF certified calibrator.
Samsung showed off their new LCD that supports VRR it's not HDMI 2.1 but still supports the tech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19g9peb_IXU
In other news AMD will be adding VRR support in future driver update for RX GPU's.
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu_di..._a_future_driver_update/1#.WlOqL42pHqo.reddit
Yeah it confused the shit outta me and kinda pissed me off because I thought QLED was some special form of OLED but turns out it's not related to that at all! Other than still being LED
But anyways, is it reasonable to believe that microLED will overtake OLED? Seeing as how microLED is the same quality without the disadvantages? I have a e7 which I think is a higher end out of last year's models but the burn in seems to be an issue that isn't being fixed with people that bought OLEDs.
oh wow, so now we have generations of OLED huh.
Doesn't Pasaonic make OLED too? So it isn't just LG making them I don't think
They probably don't see the point in marketing OLED when they've got something better in the oven.