Just came from a viewing. I thought it was enjoyable for the most part, moreso than all the films since T2( not sure that's exactly a high bar to clear). Some of the story beats are certainly up for debate but it is a competent film in my book.
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Terminator: Dark Fate || Review Thread
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I take you liked your viewing! Man, I have to wait till Next Friday :-(
I think reading major spoilers outside of the context of a film is really just going out of your way to fuck with your own experience by setting up some preconceived reactions that you'll only end up looking to confirm when you actually make it to the theater. I'm happy I managed to see it before the internet tried to tell me how to feel.
It's fun watching how all over the place the reviews have been falling. So far leaning positive overall but you can find some wild variation of feelings from person to person. Bring on Armond White.
It's fun watching how all over the place the reviews have been falling. So far leaning positive overall but you can find some wild variation of feelings from person to person. Bring on Armond White.
do they mean it in the sense that there wont be any more after it bombs?
I Wanna Be The Guy
Buddy you're hyping me up. I've been lurking this thread but I think I gotta bail. Wont be able to watch until next Friday. I'm cautiously optimistic that I'm gonna have a good time.
Buddy you're hyping me up. I've been lurking this thread but I think I gotta bail. Wont be able to watch until next Friday. I'm cautiously optimistic that I'm gonna have a good time.
I'd just like to say that
Dani is a more believable John Connor than any actual iteration of John Connor. Like, her character is one I actually see being someone that inspires the resistance.
I said it before, but I just need this to be a good ride. I don't mind flaws. I don't need this to be T2. I just want to feel like a real sequel to those films.
Much like with The Force Awakens, I need them to prove to me that they can make a good one of these. I didn't dare hope before, but now I actually am.
Much like with The Force Awakens, I need them to prove to me that they can make a good one of these. I didn't dare hope before, but now I actually am.
why did i click this spoiler, what is wrong with me
it aint that bad, but still, i gotta be more careful lol
I thought it was, not great, but not terrible kind of in the middle. I maybe kind of prefer Genysis to this to be honest, that was ridiculous and stupid and over the top. This was just kind of a bit more dull and to safe. It was trying to make you feel for these characters and make it mean something when I didn't care for any of these characters. Some of the action scenes were ok and enemy Terminator didn't really feel like a threat.
It feels like groundhog day with these films, every few years Arnies digital image will be puppeteered in vaguely different scenes until the end of time.
It feels like groundhog day with these films, every few years Arnies digital image will be puppeteered in vaguely different scenes until the end of time.
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That do makes me wonder about the future of Arnie in cinema. He definitely seems like the type of guy who'll be okay with people using his face even after his passing.
Apstyl and VorpalNonsense have already given some impressions, but anyone else have any thoughts on the music score? I'm dying to know how well Brad Fiedel's Main Theme is utilized.
For example, is the version featured during the end credits a full statement of the theme, a la T3: Rise of the Machines?
For example, is the version featured during the end credits a full statement of the theme, a la T3: Rise of the Machines?
My review if anyone's interested (which dropped it back down to 67% :O):
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that film/movie distinction in your score is a bit strange bruh but thanks for the write up. kind of validates my intention to skip this in theaters sadly and just wait for streaming or something.
The movie is trash like wtf, I wanted to get out of the theater after the intro, what a piece of junk... just stay with T1 and T2 which are amazing.
"tons of humor" in a review for a Terminator movie is the last thing I wanna fuckin' hear anymore.
Thanks for that, T2.
Thanks for that, T2.
most blockbusters have gone absolutely overboard with it this last decade (post-Joss Whedon) but I thought the humorous scenes in T2 were fine. It never served to undercut the sense of dread the movie had.
Agreed.
One of the most sobering scenes in the film actually barely gets a mention most of the time. When John watches the two kids playing with guns, yelling about who killed who and he ponders that people aren't gonna make it.
Furlong gets called out for his spotty acting in T2, and sometimes it is noticeable. but the really spacey drugged out voice of his really worked well in both that and American History X. he was like the embodiment of 90s teenage gloom back then.
Just finished watching it. Had genisys had good actors, it would have probably been better. The pacing is bad for half the movie, And it's overall cringy. And yes we know girls can be strong, it's handled poorly.
The new terminator is cool but it gets old after the first fight scene. Probably won't watch it again.
The new terminator is cool but it gets old after the first fight scene. Probably won't watch it again.
Just finished watching it a few mins ago. I honestly really enjoyed it. Good action scenes and it's Arnie! Cringy? Nah. You know what you're in for and if you want a it serious, there's always Jane Eyre with Timothy Dalton or some shit. The new baddie terminator is a two-for-one package - excellent value. It's not Terminator 2, but it's a recommend from Red Sonja.
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I mean, it was pretty much a given that some people would feel like that since
the movie start with John Connor dying.
I enjoyed it, definitely the best one since T2. I think this will be the last Terminator film and they were obviously aware of that possibility during production, I really liked how they dealt with Arnold's character and retired him gracefully.
If we don't get any sequel then I'm happy with this ending, I enjoyed what they did with Sarah and the Terminator. The movie was nothing special but Sarah gave the movie a link to the first two that the other sequels all lacked, it made it work as a proper Terminator 3.
If we don't get any sequel then I'm happy with this ending, I enjoyed what they did with Sarah and the Terminator. The movie was nothing special but Sarah gave the movie a link to the first two that the other sequels all lacked, it made it work as a proper Terminator 3.
In 1998 Sarah and John are in a bar by the beach. John is talking to some girl as Sarah watches on. Arnold walks up and shoots him several times, confirms he is dead, then walks away as Sarah cradles his body.
Ehhh... I was on the fence if I wanted to see this movie but I think I am good waiting to see it on a streaming service if even that.
I extremely dislike how the franchise handled this character after T2. But what makes things worse this time is that it really hurts T2
Arguably any movie existing after T2 hurts T2, since any apocalyptic future still happening renders everything they did in that movie moot.
Agreed, although those movies kinda respected the character in question.
Still wish T2 ended with the future coda ending
The only DC scene I wish was in the theatrical was the gas station chip scene. But everything else either makes the pace sag or muddled the tone a bit like that GIF
This decision was absolutely correct and the best way they could have opened the movie.
In some ways Dark Fate is the Last Jedi of Terminator films
But why?
People grew up with this John and now only a short while after the events of T2 he dies. It makes T2 worse and does a big disservice to the character
How does it make T2 worse or less important? It doesn't do a disservice to anything.
The Skynet future was prevented. The John Connor that would inspire the resistance was not needed anymore. That story had been told. That's a different timeline. The Legion future is not the same as the Skynet future. That needs a different hero. Killing off John sat very well with me. There's a new set of characters that matter in this new timeline going forward and I see no issue moving on to that. That opening scene was shocking, had a lot of impact and in the grand scheme of things makes it easier to fit Dani in the new role of resistance leader in the era of Legion. John saved us from Skynet. Let Dani save us from Legion.