Tesla Model S Battery Explodes in Parking Garage

TinfoilHatsROn · Apr 21, 2019

Tapiozona said:
Ditto, just calling it like I see it. His post count has nothing to do with anything, his actual posts do

Nope. Low post counts are (sometimes) pretty big indicators of alts. As much as you want to act deny reality lol.

Luckily mods seem to be able to tell when someone's got an alt and ban accordingly. So it's whatever.

Back on topic, that fire is fucking crazy. Like 0 to 100.And it'll burn way longer than non EV fires. Fuck. That's a huge turn off of EV being adopted in the mainstream. Damn.

Edit: I'll be fair. Sometimes.

bangai-o · Apr 21, 2019

I occasionally wonder when my laptop is going to explode on top of me.

kambaybolongo · Apr 21, 2019

circuitry said:
The man is running an American company and trying to make the world a better place. He's not perfect, but you don't have to attack in an 'us vs. them' way.

trying to make the world a better place my ass

Deleted member 10612 · Apr 21, 2019

Jisgsaw said:
Probably not. Heck, they're probably less likely to catch fire, what with fuel being insanely inflammable.
However, as others have already noted, EV (not just Teslas, all EVs) fires are a tad more annoying than ICE fires, because the fire can restart for several days. And, what with EVs being relatively new (compared to ICE), they get more attention.

That electric fires are only "a tad more annoying" is a massive downplaying on your part lol.

On topic:
Given that BMW just recalled another hundred thousand cars related to fire concerns make me believe a couple Tesla's burning to the ground might not be all that bad. Give it time, in a couple of years solid state batteries will make this a non issue.

Stinkles · Apr 21, 2019

Tapiozona said:
At least the dude isn't using someone's post count as an argument and dismissal. That's some 12 year old, ivory tower, shit.

Post count is not in and of itself an issue, but it might lead to an easy examination of prior content, and it often reveals a burner account. In this case about 30% of his posts are about Musk - but 30% are about hiding threads, so he might literally just be someone who only wants to read about a very few subjects and his tolerance for critical discussion of Musk is demonstrated here and in his overall post count, so it's valuable context for his position.

However, there's nothing wrong with using a forum tool to decide how to engage a poster (or not) in an environment rife with trolls, burners and drive by account suicides (not ResetEra specifically but the whole internet). It's not rare enough to ignore as an aspect of rhetoric here, especially when you're passionate or serious about a subject and might be getting drawn into a waste of your time.

Personally the only time I ever even look at post count is when I click on a poster's history to see what their perspective is when they drop a confounding or disingenuous post. Per the normal forum functionality. Mine are there for everyone to see because I either stand by what I said or am happy to acknowledge I previously held that position. It's a way for me to contextualize my own evolution and education.

captive · Apr 21, 2019

Trup1aya said:
Honest question... are Tesla vehicles more prone to explosion than ICE vehicles?

Obviously any vehicle explosion is cause for concern, but I'm just wondering if the make of this particular vehicle should make it particularly news worthy.

No, they're not. But it's news worthy because it's a Tesla.

Any other car make and we wouldn't even know about it.

Hollywood Duo · Apr 21, 2019

Deleted member 10612 · Apr 21, 2019

captive said:
No, they're not. But it's news worthy because it's a Tesla.

Any other car make and we wouldn't even know about it.

Its news worthy because its new tech, you would read about it if it was an i3, EQC, ZOE etc burning down like this.

Jarrod38 · Apr 21, 2019

Yep it's a Tesla thread alright.

args · Apr 21, 2019

the "hurr what about" posts remind me of trump supporters deflecting to hillary's emails when cornered

sooperkool · Apr 21, 2019

circuitry said:
Random-ass cars catch fire in garages all the time, but let's just shit on Telsa, am I right guys?

https://www.cbs8.com/video/news/car...rage/509-c432b428-c681-4377-8f08-65d5cc6a5996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14JlEkXAp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-oyLTKbx0M

You had that cape ready, didn't you

Ryno23 · Apr 21, 2019

Sankt Ra said:
Its news worthy because its new tech, you would read about it if it was an i3, EQC, ZOE etc burning down like this.

Tesla Model S came out in 2012... It's only new tech for the legacy auto industry that's still struggling and or refusing to put out EVs in anything but compliance numbers.

dr.rocktopus · Apr 21, 2019

Thermal runaway is fucking scary. I remember having to do some research for work on it and it more or less comes down to time, tons of water and monitoring.

Hesemonni · Apr 21, 2019

Since it was in China, I'm pretty sure ERA will somehow blame Huawei for this.

Deleted member 6173 · Apr 21, 2019

If cars can spontaneously combust I don't see why humans can't!

Deleted member 8257 · Apr 21, 2019

As a Model 3 owner, this is troubling. The car itself is so good, driving a typical gas car feels like a total step down. I'm amazed at how good the battery performance is. But I do hope this was a random accident and is not an underlying defect.

Mammoth Jones · Apr 21, 2019

Yep. Batteries can do that. Tesla needs to step its game up. Shit like this can be deadly as fuck.

nekkid · Apr 21, 2019

I'd like to see how often this happens to Teslas vs some other brands of ICE cars.

Gustaf · Apr 21, 2019

Ryno23 said:
Tesla Model S came out in 2012... It's only new tech for the legacy auto industry that's still struggling and or refusing to put out EVs in anything but compliance numbers.

shh

dont ruin the narrative that this is the final nail on the TESLA COFFIN

PaJeppy · Apr 21, 2019

Shit it perfect and the technology is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things

Curious what kind of safety measures are implemented from the inside of the vehicle if this were to happen when someone was driving. All vehicles have some form of a firewall.

Deleted member 10612 · Apr 21, 2019

Ryno23 said:
Tesla Model S came out in 2012... It's only new tech for the legacy auto industry that's still struggling and or refusing to put out EVs in anything but compliance numbers.

Compared to gas powered cars its still new tech, and one that will get better and change a lot year over year. Market penetration is still minimal etc.
Don't know what other carmakers EV strategy have anything to do with that conversation.

+ I just linked to a place that reported an i3 catching fire, a car released five years ago...Nobody is reporting a fiat burning down in italy any longer.. Because thats old tech, old news.

Trup1aya · Apr 21, 2019

Jisgsaw said:
Probably not. Heck, they're probably less likely to catch fire, what with fuel being insanely inflammable.
However, as others have already noted, EV (not just Teslas, all EVs) fires are a tad more annoying than ICE fires, because the fire can restart for several days. And, what with EVs being relatively new (compared to ICE), they get more attention.

Some people are very aggressive to Tesla true, but still, most (not insanely bad) Tesla news gets rather fair discussions from most people over here. It's just not a pro-Tesla echo-chamber, like many tech enthusiast forums are.

SRG01 said:
It's news worthy because conventional fire extinguishing techniques don't work on a lithium battery fire.

Pasha said:
https://autoweek.com/article/recalls/kia-and-hyundai-owners-file-class-action-lawsuit-engine-fires

Not really, but when Tesla is the subject of the conversation then Era will find a way to make it look like bigger problem than it is.

captive said:
No, they're not. But it's news worthy because it's a Tesla.

Any other car make and we wouldn't even know about it.

Thanks for the replies.

I gotta say, I imagine that the disproportionate coverage Tesla get makes it difficult for the average consumer to truly educate themselves on the benefits and risks of the technology.

Your average Joe Shmoe is will buy an ICE and never once conside that it might spontaneously burn up. But here I am eyeing a 3, but worried that it might burn my house down- and I've bought several ICE cars since my brothers car burned up on the side of the highway.

It's the same with auto-pilot. The road is littered with 16yr olds and older people who don't have the reaction ability to safely traverse, and all sorts of people in between those ages who's have no business driving. But thanks to a few high profile accidents, we're all up at arms at the prospect of a computer doing the heavily lifting.

It's totally bizarre, but I get it, given how new the tech is.

Anyway, is there anything the fire responders and manufactures are doing to better address EV fires?

Spine Crawler · Apr 21, 2019

Greebman said:
Imagine sitting in that. One second you see smoke rising and the next you're surrounded by flames.

well what happens when you see smoke rising in a car with a combustible engine...? smoke rising from a car seems like a nightmare scenario in any car.

Euler.L. · Apr 21, 2019

The problem with e cars is that firefighters can't do much except watching how the e cars burn out.

Rental · Apr 21, 2019

And this comes after i read an article earlier this week about the waste of materials and dysfunction at the Tesla shared Panasonic battery plant. The article had the Panasonic workers detailing the choas within the facility and lack of safety measures.

Euler.L. · Apr 21, 2019

Spine Crawler said:
well what happens when you see smoke rising in a car with a combustible engine...?

Normally not that much.

DrM · Apr 21, 2019

PaJeppy said:
Shit it perfect and the technology is still fairly new in the grand scheme of things

Curious what kind of safety measures are implemented from the inside of the vehicle if this were to happen when someone was driving. All vehicles have some form of a firewall.

Fires like these are rapid and extremely volatile and you have a few seconds to stop the vehicle and get as far away as you can. Fire will burn directly beneath your seat.
Now imagine instant battery combustion while traveling at 150 km/h on the highway. Not a most pleasant thought.

Arkanim94 · Apr 21, 2019

circuitry said:
The man is running an American company and trying to make the world a better place. He's not perfect, but you don't have to attack in an 'us vs. them' way.

Dat cringe.

Joni · Apr 21, 2019

Spine Crawler said:
well what happens when you see smoke rising in a car with a combustible engine...? smoke rising from a car seems like a nightmare scenario in any car.

You stop the car, you get out. The fire would be at the front, the gas tank is at the back. And they don't really explode.

AmethystArcana · Apr 21, 2019

Roughly 5% of posts in this thead:

Okabe said:
Overpriced

rokkerkory said:
Tesla quality

Hollywood Duo said:
(gif of elon smoking)

Mammoth Jones said:
Yep. Batteries can do that. Tesla needs to step its game up. Shit like this can be deadly as fuck.

And I'm being generous... Sorry Mammoth and Hollywood =P.

And yet:

circuitry said:
Random-ass cars catch fire in garages all the time, but let's just shit on Telsa, am I right guys?

https://www.cbs8.com/video/news/car...rage/509-c432b428-c681-4377-8f08-65d5cc6a5996

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n14JlEkXAp0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-oyLTKbx0M

circuitry said:
He worked his ass off to be where he is now. His detractors are just as rabid.

I did so because this forum has never given Elon a fair shake, and apparently never will.

Won't be commenting on Tesla threads anymore because there's apparently no good discourse to be had. Enjoy your echo-chamber, people.

Kevtones said:
Tesla hate around here is pretty weird.

Pasha said:
https://autoweek.com/article/recalls/kia-and-hyundai-owners-file-class-action-lawsuit-engine-fires

Not really, but when Tesla is the subject of the conversation then Era will find a way to make it look like bigger problem than it is.

captive said:
No, they're not. But it's news worthy because it's a Tesla.

Any other car make and we wouldn't even know about it.

Jarrod38 said:
Yep it's a Tesla thread alright.

Gustaf said:
shh

dont ruin the narrative that this is the final nail on the TESLA COFFIN

In conclusion:

Jisgsaw said:
Some people are very aggressive to Tesla true, but still, most (not insanely bad) Tesla news gets rather fair discussions from most people over here. It's just not a pro-Tesla echo-chamber, like many tech enthusiast forums are.

FTF · Apr 21, 2019

Hesemonni said:
Since it was in China, I'm pretty sure ERA will somehow blame Huawei for this.

Maybe someone left their Hauwei phone in the car and that's what went on fire!

Seductivpancakes · Apr 21, 2019

Hesemonni said:
Since it was in China, I'm pretty sure ERA will somehow blame Huawei for this.

Huawei used their hacking software app to cause American car to explode.

TyrantGuardian · Apr 21, 2019

circuitry said:
He worked his ass off to be where he is now. His detractors are just as rabid.

I did so because this forum has never given Elon a fair shake, and apparently never will.

Won't be commenting on Tesla threads anymore because there's apparently no good discourse to be had. Enjoy your echo-chamber, people.

It's not my fault that Elon is a piece of shit anti-union capitalist. Let me know when he actually does something to make this world a better place that doesn't involve throwing the working class under the buss perpetually while he and his uber-rich friends fly off into space.

DJ_Lae · Apr 21, 2019

Squarehard said:
Video evidence random cars blow up all the time.

Even bicycles aren't immune.

Deleted member 2652 · Apr 21, 2019

having witnessed thermal run away on smaller devices, this is scary as a 3 owner. not as scary as tesla devotees tho

Goldtones · Apr 21, 2019

TyrantGuardian said:
It's not my fault that Elon is a piece of shit anti-union capitalist. Let me know when he actually does something to make this world a better place that doesn't involve throwing the working class under the buss perpetually while he and his uber-rich friends fly off into space.

Lay off the cringe dude.

Mammoth Jones · Apr 21, 2019

jjreamPop said:
Roughly 5% of posts in this thead:

And I'm being generous... Sorry Mammoth and Hollywood =P.

And yet:

In conclusion:

No worries. I'm not a hater or really a lover of Tesla or Elon Musk. I do think this type of car needs to be developed and iterated on. Sure it'll be the high-end market but ideally in within the next century it'll be commonplace. The long term goal is for people one day to view the internal combustion engine the same way we view horse and carriage now:

"Ew, how did people manage with all that shit everywhere?"

Now if that's Tesla or not who knows. I certainly don't but I'm down for anything that can ditch gas AND provide the power I need when driving. Progress isn't perfect. But Tesla doesn't get a pass cause they're "trying". It's ok to expect better. Doubly so when a battery fire spreads quick as shit. I mean, if people were in that car it's just a clusterfuck.

TyrantGuardian · Apr 21, 2019

Goldtones said:
Lay off the cringe dude.

Nah I'm good. You should be more worried about the "cringe" of people worshipping billionaires.

Deleted member 8852 · Apr 21, 2019

The cars have already been tested to generally be extremely safe to drive, but man when something does go wrong it goes wrong badly. Lithium battery fires are no joke.

Battery safety needs to be a top priority, not just for Tesla but also for other upcoming manufacturers, especially as the popularity, range and infrastructure for EV grows.

TooBusyLookinGud · Apr 21, 2019

Sega Dreamcast said:
That you, Elon?

M52B28 said:
Tesla fires are known to be very difficult to put out.

kitchenmotors said:
Oh hey look a Musk Bro.

But the poster is telling the truth. Why the hate on Tesla?

Deleted member 925 · Apr 21, 2019

DumpsterJuice said:
But the poster is telling the truth. Why the hate on Tesla?

He's not speaking any truth, there's no woke conversation that he's bringing up and if that's your takeaway from this entire thread, then I don't know what to tell you.

Goldtones said:
Lay off the cringe dude.

How is cringe to argue in good faith against those who love entitled elitist white billionaires and their shitty attitudes and practices?

RecRoulette · Apr 21, 2019

oh man, for the first few seconds I thought the car was gone.

bangai-o said:
I occasionally wonder when my laptop is going to explode on top of me.

It's the office chairs folks should worry about

IDreamOfHime · Apr 21, 2019

FTF said:
that swap to the dummy still cracks me up lol

It's absolutely amazing.

funky · Apr 21, 2019

Y'all sitting in your Tesla

Jashobeam · Apr 21, 2019

its just aurora borealis in a garage, nothing to see here

Zornica · Apr 21, 2019

huh.... guess they got lucky this happened in China and not in the US, for PR reasons obviously

circuitry said:
The man is running an American company and trying to make the world a better place. He's not perfect, but you don't have to attack in an 'us vs. them' way.

I didn't intend to reply to this nonsense... but than I read it again, and I've got to ask: why exactly does it matter that he's running "an American company"? Are those beyond criticism somehow?

Rental said:
And this comes after i read an article earlier this week about the waste of materials and dysfunction at the Tesla shared Panasonic battery plant. The article had the Panasonic workers detailing the choas within the facility and lack of safety measures.

mind to share? I think I missed that

Hollywood Duo · Apr 21, 2019

jjreamPop said:
Roughly 5% of posts in this thead:

And I'm being generous... Sorry Mammoth and Hollywood =P.

And yet:

In conclusion:

I'm just here for the memes, no dog in this fight

hateradio · Apr 21, 2019

funky said:
Y'all sitting in your Tesla

I guess I won't sit in my car while it charges.

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Deleted member 176 · Apr 21, 2019

circuitry said:
The man is running an American company and trying to make the world a better place. He's not perfect, but you don't have to attack in an 'us vs. them' way.

he sits around doing nothing with billions of dollars besides tweeting out memes and calling people pedophiles

Randam · Apr 21, 2019

Squarehard said:
Video evidence random cars blow up all the time.

That cut to the puppet is so bad

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