My guess is the Russians moved on the fringes (Jr. / Flynn) to influence Trump and not outright the big man himself or Pence.
However, Pence was brought in by Manafort, and Manafort was brought in by the Trump kids from RNC/GOP recommendations.
The Atlantic: The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and Wikileaks
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My guess is the Russians moved on the fringes (Jr. / Flynn) to influence Trump and not outright the big man himself or Pence.
However, Pence was brought in by Manafort, and Manafort was brought in by the Trump kids from RNC/GOP recommendations.
So Hope Hicks is the one they are going to throw under the bus when all this shit goes down.
Can't wait for her to spill the beans.
Can't wait for her to spill the beans.
If I'm reading it right, the site wasn't live, so the password was just so people could preview it before it went live. It doesn't sound like it had admin privileges. Of course, with that, I suspect since it wasn't live the only way Trump Jr. could've seen the About page was to use the password, so depending on how the site was configured it might be a clear violation of the computer fraud and abuse act.
Mueller has an interview w/ her scheduled for after she gets back from Asia.
Timing on this might not be accidental.
I bet Trump learned the term Plausible Deniability from watching Independence Day. Probably got some of his speech ideas from ID4's President too.
Hope Hicks is Trump's Plausible Deniability, unless of course she's arrested and spills the beans for a lighter penalty. Trump is probably testing and coaching her right now, telling her he'll pardon her so long as she denies anything that implicates him.
Hope Hicks is Trump's Plausible Deniability, unless of course she's arrested and spills the beans for a lighter penalty. Trump is probably testing and coaching her right now, telling her he'll pardon her so long as she denies anything that implicates him.
I did. That's not collusion unless you try and say that Wikileaks spent money discoving that there was a new Trump PAC and by sending the message to Jr they indirectly took campaign spending.
This post doesn't go into that point but shows that these are really underwhelming.
https://www.emptywheel.net/2017/11/13/the-don-jr-wikileaks-emails-are-underwhelming/
The article also states:
Doesn't mean that there weren't other contacts but he doesn't seem to have been that easy of a target as they thought.
This ... this is big. This can't be written off as a coincidence.
And all these messages have already been sent by Jr's lawyers to congressional investigators.
Luckily for the rest us, 45's entire campaign was run by people considerably dumber than rocks.
Just because he did not respond to some of the messages does not mean much when he responded to others and actually did some of the things that Wikileaks suggested.
As that one twitter quote on the second page notes, any collaboration with a foreign entity (like Wikileaks) is illegal and is collusion.
Which part do you like the most? The one were they want to sow discord among Americans for the lulz or the one were they clearly favor one candidate over the other, while claiming to be totally impartial and for transparency?
They were talking to Alex Jones too and anyone else wearing a #MAGA hat. It's going to be tough to proof anything if there's no money trail like with Manafort.
There's also the reports of Trump flat out ignoring all the advice from his kids/advisers and campaign managers and just winging it.
Also if you go after the Trump's for colluding with Wikileaks you'll have to drag all the press to the courts as well because they've all been colluding with Wikileaks for years.
The Russians played their Wikileaks card masterfully.
That's why I said "circumstancial evidence". Of course Wikileaks gave him the link, but he could have got it from anywhere. Here's Wikileaks tweeting it to the world 2 days earlier:
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786184297199702022?lang=en
As I said, add it to the pile, but in itself, this exchange is probably not enough to meet the burden of proof in a criminal case, and even less likely to bring Trump down.
"So what if they were in contact with a pro russia rapist? Most of my best friends are rapists!"
Spending does not have to literally mean money passing hands.
Edit: dafuq is that garbage website you're linking to?
Man, anyone with even moderately good vision could see they were porking each other leading up to the election. I hope more info keeps coming out.
If the FBI has proof that Donald Trump Jr's IP address (preferably his own phone) logged into the website, using the password provided, then...
WikiLeaks is an FSB front, everyone in the IC knows this. Worldwide.
I hope not. I want these people to go to prison forever and live to be 1,000 years old so they can watch their legacy destroyed all around them.
That makes no sense, the press "colludes" with wiki links to... deliver news?
There is a big difference here, I'm not sure how you are thinking this is even close to the same thing.
I don't know, I don't wanna take a chance that they will be pardoned.
Wikileaks is literally a department of the FSB/GRU Russian Intelligence Services.
There is no non-state intelligence agency trying to gain awareness for social injustice or internet surveillance. It's the Russian intelligence services.
They are not. They are a Russian front. This is why they will redact documents to protect Russian interests.
Trump Junior had very little influence with the President, barely even knows him. Wasn't around long enough to have any impact.
...or something to that effect
They're a front for Russian intelligence, that did everything in their power to help sway an election and put the orange dotard into the White House.
It's more likely that Russia likes to fund and support organisations and people in the west/US that can help undermine the system.
Wikileaks know this but if it means they get legit dirt leaked to them, they don't really care about the source or the reason.
It's mutually beneficial.
From the beginning it's been pretty clear that this is Pence's only job.
The press aren't running for office with strict laws about where money and aid can come from.
remember during the campaign when they all agreed to say that trump wasn't an email guy and that he wanted to meet people, to call people, not to read and write emails ? Checks out
Except, of course, that Wikileaks refuses to publish dirt that would hurt Russian interests, because it's a Russian intelligence op.
no. they are a russian front. it's 100% assured. anything relating to russia from wikileaks is redacted. every fucking time.
LOL Assange and Wikileaks are as pathetic as they come. Sad motherfuckers.
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