How did you get this data?All of this reporting of the size of the fire never really made sense to me. I don't know how big an acre is or a sq mile. But this thing is burning across a huge area. To see it from a different perspective.
Ugh.. please at least tell me the kids are waiting to be reunited.
I think when you say the fire was incinerating an area the size of a football field each second for some time it helps put it in perspective.
They have released the entire list of missing persons, all 1011+
http://www.buttecounty.net/Portals/24/pdf/11-16-18 Unaccounted Persons2.pdf?ver=2018-11-17-084346-493
What a sobering list
Australia video?That + that australia video. Fire and wind is terrifying. This is so tragic.
Are they positive the Camp Fire started because the electric company decided not to shut down power during the wind storm? Can't believe an entire town is gone due to incompetence.
Looking at those ages... I'm no longer as optimistic about many being found alive and well.
While the spark was likely man-made, the fact that the town was in deep fire country likely did not help. The state of California failed these people by allowing them to continue building there in the first place.Are they positive the Camp Fire started because the electric company decided not to shut down power during the wind storm? Can't believe an entire town is gone due to incompetence.
This might come across as insensitive, apologies if so, but something I've always wondered about wild fires is why are they so hard to escape? Do people think they have more time than they have to leave, or do the fires spread faster than cars can drive?
From what I was told by an Australian friend, these fires can spread really fast, its like the threes are almost exploding and its just a wall of fire surrounding you + wind blowing heat around so its hard to breath + disorientation ...
Wildfires can spread extremely quickly in general, and in these cases, it's been worse because there are high winds and it has been extremely dry. CNN had a good summation from last week https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/09/us/wildfires-why-they-spread-so-quickly-wcx/index.htmlThis might come across as insensitive, apologies if so, but something I've always wondered about wild fires is why are they so hard to escape? Do people think they have more time than they have to leave, or do the fires spread faster than cars can drive?
While the spark was likely man-made, the fact that the town was in deep fire country likely did not help. The state of California failed these people by allowing them to continue building there in the first place.
Changes need to be made. California has been taking climate change seriously but it's been a little bit adamant to get in the way of telling people where they can and can't build in deep fire country. This cannot continue.
This might come across as insensitive, apologies if so, but something I've always wondered about wild fires is why are they so hard to escape? Do people think they have more time than they have to leave, or do the fires spread faster than cars can drive?
Jesus Christ I had no idea so many people were missing. I'm guessing at this point most of the 1100 can't be alive? Absolutely horrifying.
Jesus Christ I had no idea so many people were missing. I'm guessing at this point most of the 1100 can't be alive? Absolutely horrifying.
What the hell does that even mean?Trump is on top of it. See the short video here. When asked if this devastation has changed his opinion on climate change he said,
"No. No. I have a strong opinion. I want great climate. We're going to have that."
https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1063907138270109697
It means nothing coming from him.
While the spark was likely man-made, the fact that the town was in deep fire country likely did not help. The state of California failed these people by allowing them to continue building there in the first place.
Changes need to be made. California has been taking climate change seriously but it's been a little bit adamant to get in the way of telling people where they can and can't build in deep fire country. This cannot continue.
It is almost like these fires started in federally controlled land that California does not manage. Like most of the fires, so yeah get on California's case?
Do you feel the same way about land near hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, or other natural disasters? Do you think the government should claim the land back from people and pay them? What is your plan here. I mean northern California is surrounded by trees. Do you think half the state should be moved?
I mean personally I think they just need to make bigger back burn areas throughout the year. Make a mandatory sprinkler systems on all roofs. You don't need to displace half the state.
And his tweets stay focused on everyone but the victims and family unless you're part of the armed forces, firefighter. Basically non peasantsTrump is on top of it. See the short video here. When asked if this devastation has changed his opinion on climate change he said,
"No. No. I have a strong opinion. I want great climate. We're going to have that."
https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1063907138270109697
Early reports described the fire spreading at a rate of one full football field per minute, so it can descend on you in an instant.This might come across as insensitive, apologies if so, but something I've always wondered about wild fires is why are they so hard to escape? Do people think they have more time than they have to leave, or do the fires spread faster than cars can drive?
Early reports described the fire spreading at a rate of one full football field per minute, so it can descend on you in an instant.
Ah.
It means he knows jack shit and doesn't give a fuck.
What about all the people in flood plains? Hurricane areas? Fault zones? Tornado alley? Victim blaming people in California doesn't do any good.While the spark was likely man-made, the fact that the town was in deep fire country likely did not help. The state of California failed these people by allowing them to continue building there in the first place.
Changes need to be made. California has been taking climate change seriously but it's been a little bit adamant to get in the way of telling people where they can and can't build in deep fire country. This cannot continue.
That wasn't victim blaming. Constantly building residential areas in the places where we know that they will more than likely be destroyed isnt "victim blaming". Its more realizing that we need go take a bit more drastic actions and move these people to places that aren't tinder boxes waiting for a spark.What about all the people in flood plains? Hurricane areas? Fault zones? Tornado alley? Victim blaming people in California doesn't do any good.
I lost my entire house and everything I owed to the Freeway Fire in 2008 in socal. There was a knock on my door by the complex maintenance man at 9:02AM, we looked up a hill and saw a tiny, TINY ploom of smoke about 1/4 mile away. It looked about the size of a small campfire if you dosed it out. We started to slowly gather things since we were being evacuated.This might come across as insensitive, apologies if so, but something I've always wondered about wild fires is why are they so hard to escape? Do people think they have more time than they have to leave, or do the fires spread faster than cars can drive?
Just curious. How do you plan to move 100 million+ people in the United States? Where are they going to move to?That wasn't victim blaming. Constantly building residential areas in the places where we know that they will more than likely be destroyed isnt "victim blaming". Its more realizing that we need go take a bit more drastic actions and move these people to places that aren't tinder boxes waiting for a spark.