If we get one-hour episodes we'll end up with an even longer season, I think, so that's all right.Going by Ty Franck*, co-writer of the books and a writer on the Show, the Amazon order of episodes will be 10, down from the 13 we've been getting.
But assume that the episodes themselves will be longer than the current commercial filled episodes.
*From the most recent "The Churn" podcast.
Feels like she would. She got to the point of recognizing that while they were stuck there, the rest of the ship was leaderless and in chaos. Knowing she was already injured (probably moreso than Ashford), she took on a much more serious injury to free up the 2nd in command for the good of the ship.I wonder if Drummer would have made the same call as Ashford to bring on everybody's wounded.
This seems like a good change for pacing's sake.Going by Ty Franck*, co-writer of the books and a writer on the Show, the Amazon order of episodes will be 10, down from the 13 we've been getting.
But assume that the episodes themselves will be longer than the current commercial filled episodes.
*From the most recent "The Churn" podcast.
<3 Drummer. Knowing that Bobby wasn't with the drop ship in the book to get Holden makes me wonder how all of that played out. Did they still have the same back and forth about executing him?
Did Amazon get the international rights then? Cause if Space still has the Canadian rights they'll likely stick to the 43 minute runtime so Space can run their ads just like CBS does with Star Trek Discovery cause Space has the Canadian rights for it.Going by Ty Franck*, co-writer of the books and a writer on the Show, the Amazon order of episodes will be 10, down from the 13 we've been getting.
But assume that the episodes themselves will be longer than the current commercial filled episodes.
*From the most recent "The Churn" podcast.
Don't know if anything has been announced for international airing.Did Amazon get the international rights then? Cause if Space still has the Canadian rights they'll likely stick to the 43 minute runtime so Space can run their ads just like CBS does with Star Trek Discovery cause Space has the Canadian rights for it.
I don't think so, they were going straight for the kill. Also, I'm pretty sure they didn't take Holden with them either.
<3 Drummer. Knowing that Bobby wasn't with the drop ship in the book to get Holden makes me wonder how all of that played out. Did they still have the same back and forth about executing him?
I'm glad they changed Ashford. One of the books' worst failings is how absurdly evil for evil's sake some of the characters are.
Given that it's not entirely clear he is an antagonist in the show your comment is effectively a spoiler. Keep the goddamn book talk in fucking spoiler tags jfc.I'm glad they changed Ashford. One of the books' worst failings is how absurdly evil for evil's sake some of the characters are.
I thought it was abundantly clear that he was an antagonist. It's just now, we don't know if he is anymore. Not a book reader, btw.Given that it's not entirely clear he is an antagonist in the show your comment is effectively a spoiler. Keep the goddamn book talk in fucking spoiler tags jfc.
He is only set up at once initially, since he is in opposition to Drummer, and Drummer is depicted as sympathetic. But besides being a bit of an arrogant jerkass, he has done nothing to actually make him an antagonist from the plot's point of view. In fact besides not respecting Drummer's rule he is depicted as making more sense than Drummer. So no, he is not clearly an antagonist.I thought it was abundantly clear that he was an antagonist. It's just now, we don't know if he is anymore. Not a book reader, btw.
In the plot's view, he is the antagonist to our protagonist which was Naomi and Drummer and now just Drummer. Doesn't matter if he is right sometimes or gives sound advice, he was positioned against Drummer. We were certainly not supposed to trust him when he was introduced. But after this last episode, things may change.He is only set up at once initially, since he is in opposition to Drummer, and Drummer is depicted as sympathetic. But besides being a bit of an arrogant jerkass, he has done nothing to actually make him an antagonist from the plot's point of view. In fact besides not respecting Drummer's rule he is depicted as making more sense than Drummer. So no, he is not clearly an antagonist.
And by commenting on him being a cartoon villain, we now know that in the books at least he is likely an antagonist from the plot's point of view. Unless they change that in the TV show, it's a spoiler, and it has nothing to do in this thread.
As a TV only viewer I definitely didnt view him as a straight up antagonist. He's even less of one now. Regardless that book comparison should have been behind tags. Any book talk really.I thought it was abundantly clear that he was an antagonist. It's just now, we don't know if he is anymore. Not a book reader, btw.
Yeah, they said as much in this most recent episode. Hard to heal in Zero-G, but the Spinning Drum creates a little bit of gravity (1/3rd of normal), so bringing injured people to the Behemoth to heal is the right thing to do.do they need gravity for medical reasons? I'm guessing it would be a killer for those who are bleeding especially internally
do they need gravity for medical reasons? I'm guessing it would be a killer for those who are bleeding especially internally
Didn't like this episode at all, lots of silly stuff, especially the Drummer/Ashford situation.
woah, love the science detail on the show then, tempted to read the books, is it the same grounded science wise?
From memory, I think the original speed limit was something like 18,000 (but I'm not sure if that's in meters per second or miles per hour), but now it's something like 28 meters per second. Which, according to google conversion, is 62 mph. Goddam that's slow.Man this season is killing it. I love the attention to detail, and even the quieter moments on the Behemoth were so good!
Can someone remind me what the previous "speed limit" was inside the ring, and what it changed to? I may have mis-read but I thought the change was so huge that it would squish even people who were buckled in.
Neither, it was 18,000 km/h, which is 5,000 m/s. Meaning a deceleration at devastating, but survivable 15 g (or 147.15 m/s²) should've taken 33.79 seconds. I don't now, though, if anyone was actually going at the speed limit at that time.From memory, I think the original speed limit was something like 18,000 (but I'm not sure if that's in meters per second or miles per hour), but now it's something like 28 meters per second. Which, according to google conversion, is 62 mph. Goddam that's slow.
Anna doesnt know about zero g wounds yet can handle a MMU? They must have designed that thing with some really intuitive controls lol.
As a TV only viewer I definitely didnt view him as a straight up antagonist. He's even less of one now. Regardless that book comparison should have been behind tags. Any book talk really.
It was Ana with some electroshock therapyI didn't catch/understand who that was near the end of the episode that saved Naomi from mech-suit Clarissa.
The thing is, the bullets got caught before the new speed limit, and the old speed limit is 3-4 times faster than the earth's current fastest bullet. Holden should have still been shot.Ah, 5 seconds, that looked much more instantaneous in the series. I thought I was being generous with 2 seconds.
With that amount of time, everyone should've gone at 764 m/s / 2750 km/h / 1708 mph before to be decelerated at 15 g. I now remember that they said they were going at 33% below the old speed limit, which would mean they were decelerated at 68 g. Which still isn't really survivable. Well, anyway, you've got a good point with the bullets. They must've gone really fast.
Ah yes, you're right. But I think the second paragraph is the answer, because the slingshotter went through the ring rather slowly. If he would have went through at 18,000 km/h, you wouldn't have seen it going through.The thing is, the bullets got caught before the new speed limit, and the old speed limit is 3-4 times faster than the earth's current fastest bullet. Holden should have still been shot.
Only thing I'm not really sure on, is if you get stuck going "too fast", does the limit bring you down to a "stop" and then pull you in at an even slower speed than the limit. Then maybe that could explain why Holden didn't get perforated.
Ah! I totally didn't catch that! Couldn't tell it was her, and had no idea she could've/would've chased her down.
It can also be hard to get an erection tooThe whole healing thing at zero G blew my mind, I never realized that was a thing.
Also, deceleration causing a huge catastrophe is another really cool event that would never be possible in another pieces of media. They always find really interesting story developments that revolve around the science.
Holden got that Earther dong.
Makes me think, maybe Holden (back in Episode 1) had timed the "rendezvous" to take place during the flip portion of the Canterbury trip (the halfway point where the ship goes from accelerating towards the location, and flipping to decelerate to the location, meaning a small moment of Zero G time). Just to get in some Zero-G action.
I kind of think it ties into her arc, of not just being a pastor (a role that's basically there to help/care for people), but also tie into whatever form of guilt she has for that officer who killed himself (and maybe for past issues, like her protest work in the past with the UN AG). Maybe she feels like she has the duty to try and get to Melba, to bring her back from the abyss.Ah! I totally didn't catch that! Couldn't tell it was her, and had no idea she could've/would've chased her down.
Episode was really great, the display of the havoc of the sudden stop plus the lack of gravity.
But I am not really a fan the way they portrait the Hub Station. I don't know, feel cheap.
Yep I feel the same, it kind of feels tiny and low budget unlike post protomolecule Eros station. Infact I feel the same for the entire slow zone. The light blue glow just looks cheap, in the books it's a completely black starless void.Episode was really great, the display of the havoc of the sudden stop plus the lack of gravity.
But I am not really a fan the way they portrait the Hub Station. I don't know, feel cheap.