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[The Gamer] Production On World Of Warcraft Has Stopped Thanks To Activision Blizzard Lawsuit
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What the fuck at that article? The way it's phrased makes it sound like Jeff Hamilton is a corporate apologist, completely leaving out the context of the first tweet. The way the article is written makes it sound like "Lawsuit? No new World of Warcraft for you because we're all deeply upset, so very upset at being sued."
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There's one specific team over at square enix it does benefit though...
Can we not do WoW vs FFXIV about this topic? I've seen these comments way too much in the stuff about Acti-Blizzard abuse and it's inappropriate to make these serious issue about some MMO wars
Specifically on this expansion of WoW holy fuck all this is not good. 9.1 took fuckin forever to come and FF14 took their lunch in the mean time. How long until 9.2? Gonna be a botched as fuck expansion and honestly it's on Acti/Blizz for allowing all the bullshit to fester and harm these talented people. I wouldn't want to get shit down either.
I still don't see how this is realistic unless you also ban other studios who have had the same issues. Ubisoft, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc. It's like half the industry would be off limits for discussion on a video game forum. With that said, they all probably deserve it so I wouldn't care.
As it relates to this topic, I'm glad they've stopped work. The corporate response was disgusting.
Honesty bring the whole company to a hault. Pause cod dev too. The only way these major companies will listen and actively try to be better sadly is if it affects their bottom line.
I do hope they keep paying their staff during these pauses.
I do hope they keep paying their staff during these pauses.
When abusers are left to run rampant, without accountability, eventually it comes back to haunt the organisations/churches/etc. Every single time. And good people who are trying to do honest work in those organisations suffer as a result.
I hope every company, suit, or shareholder in gaming is looking at this, and seeing the consequences first hand. It can get a hell of a lot worse and very quickly for them unless they get proactive on this shit. Imagine if enough people working on your AAA game walk out until things change, that can have staggering effects on the bottom line of so many companies.
Care for your employees, and you'll reap the rewards. Don't, and you'll eventually be left with ashes. No empire lasts forever.
I hope every company, suit, or shareholder in gaming is looking at this, and seeing the consequences first hand. It can get a hell of a lot worse and very quickly for them unless they get proactive on this shit. Imagine if enough people working on your AAA game walk out until things change, that can have staggering effects on the bottom line of so many companies.
Care for your employees, and you'll reap the rewards. Don't, and you'll eventually be left with ashes. No empire lasts forever.
Hire sexual predators and overall immature/stupid executives and managers, give them all absurd salaries and buyouts, run company into ground and leave a blood trail in their wake, profit.
Its so unfair.
Its so unfair.
A lot of the accusations are thrown specifically at the Blizzard side of things.
It also says ALL work has ceased when the tweet didn't say that, and phrases it as if production has officially shut down. Misleading.
I think that was included for the audience of people who do care about the shareholders: the executives who downplayed this. The execs don't give a shit about the people involved, clearly, but will care when shareholders stop making that money.
I mean the shareholders aren't necessarily happy with the culture at ActiBlizz because it's detrimental to the long term health of the employees, business, and production; like nobody likes Kotick's salary because it's a fucking black hole where the money could have gone into business growth, employee benefits, or dividends.
exactly. A senior systems designer probably doesn't care much about big wig shareholders. The point was like "hey, we're not making money because of your colossal fuck up, execs, and the people you're beholden to (shareholders) are going to be mad". So, should the execs actually make some changes or resign or whatever then the wheel can begin turning again.
A shareholder meeting could also clean up the place faster then anything else.
You could read this two ways:
1) He loves shareholders
2) He is trying to push shareholders to make Activision do something other than w/e their shitty response has been thus far.
This is era so it must be #1 tho; not enough drama in #2 to entertain the thought.
The article and the tweet don't line up.
That said, I will not be surprised if they eventually pull out a WoD again and just move everyone to work on 10.0, cutting Shadowlands short.
This of course after Activision-Blizzard sort this shit out. No developer is going to be productive when the abusers are still around, morale is rock bottom, and Fran "I love War Crimes" Townsend keeps putting out atrocious statements both internally and to the press.
That said, I will not be surprised if they eventually pull out a WoD again and just move everyone to work on 10.0, cutting Shadowlands short.
This of course after Activision-Blizzard sort this shit out. No developer is going to be productive when the abusers are still around, morale is rock bottom, and Fran "I love War Crimes" Townsend keeps putting out atrocious statements both internally and to the press.
Unfortunately, the shareholders probably the most power to force change. If work can't be completed on games then the shareholders can't make money. If they become too displeased, they have the most potential to put pressure on Activision Blizzard leadership to make sweeping changes.
Why are people so focused on the shareholders bit? If this shit causes Blizzard to lose cash, they stand to lose a lot of money too. So they're going to demolish the executives, the ones who downplayed and ignored this shit. I don't think Hamilton is suggesting we should feel sorry for the shareholders over the real victims of this shitstorm. That's a stupid way to interpret what he said.
Yeah, let's hope that some changes for the better come out of their involvement. And I totally get that was the gist -- it just read funny to me in that particular context.
Disgusting.
If you want to get into it, it doesn't because it stifles competition.
I can see the WoD scenario alright. Which did lead to Legion which was great. So here hoping they clear house and set themselves up for future success. I don't think people would mind a semi-reboot at this point to get the story grounded again and way from the cosmic stuff.
How many of you intend to misrepresent what he meant with that comment?
Bingo.
The article is misleading and a shit excuse for "journalism." It's fine what Hamilton is saying but honestly, I have more belief someone like him will be fired for speaking up than all of these assholes committing atrocities in the work place.
It's the lack of thinking from some here.
To be fair, it's a poorly written article that removed needed context to help people understand the quote better.
The comment about shareholders is just to illustrate that the lack of accountability is a self-destructive action for Activision to take, and a loss for literally every party. And yes, shareholders can apply pressure uniquely on their own. Trying to twist it as if that's the main party he's concerned about is totally unreasonable.
Anyone can click the tweet to see the entire thread.
Anyone can click the tweet to see the entire thread.
Sure, but if you need to do that to understand what's happening then the article has failed.
Some folks block twitter, so, yeah. If I miss some context it's not on me, what did I miss?