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Watching Gundam Narrative now and its by far the worst Gundam anime of all times. I heard it was bad but dear god I couldn't imagine it could be this bad.

A significant part of this film is not understanding that the part in Gundam Crossbone: Skullheart where they explain that the Zeong was built because the Zeon saw a ball with a Gundam faceplate and therefore thought that the Earth Federation had a 40 meter Gundam was meant as a joke.

The Robots are so overpowered that its just a Super Robot series taking itself way too seriously.

"I will become a bird too". That's right up there with "I am Gundam" as the worst line in Gundam history.

Gundam Narrative is Harutoshi Fukui talking about how much he loves Tomino and towards the end he just starts talking about how great Ideon is. It tries so hard to be Tomino without the emotional weight that Tomino's work has so instead all you have is just a bunch of weird ideas that don't work at all. I have never watched Ideon outside of the ending but just the ending has more emotion than this entire film has. You don't need to know who Cosmo Yuki is because Tomino imparts so much emotion with just the scene itself.
 

Valkerion

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Yeah NT is pretty bad. We get to see the Sinanju Stien though... that's something. I thought the plot point of a kid seeing the colony drop and warning others was an interesting and fitting take in this universe but everything after. No thanks.
 

Distantmantra

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Yeah NT is pretty bad. We get to see the Sinanju Stien though... that's something. I thought the plot point of a kid seeing the colony drop and warning others was an interesting and fitting take in this universe but everything after. No thanks.

Sinanju Stein is in the Unicorn game on the PS3. FROM did a good job with the side story DLC.

There was some fun mecha porn and I did like the Miracle Children stuff and more hints at Flannagan style experimental labs but in the end the movie just feels expendable and like nothing that happened really matters.
 

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I'd be interested in watching NT but I've forgotten everything about Unicorn and really have no interest to see it again, might be holding out for Hathaway's. The opinions I've read about it haven't offered much encouragement either.
 

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That entire scene when they had "Cage" playing still affects me emotionally for some reason. Otherwise the movie was middling to meh.

And that theme song by LiSA was amazing.
 
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Valkerion

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It got a model of a Gustav Karl made so I can't hate it entirely.
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This is what my office life has become
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Oct 27, 2017
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So I finally got back to building again to finish my Moon Gundam today:
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I lost the motivation because I disliked the narrow feet lol. But then I got sidetracked by my kitbash idea for a calendar shoot in November that I may have posted (but don't think I shared the actual calendar shots):
My Barbatos Diabolos (Barbatos/Deathscythe mash-up)
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Strikerrr

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Music by Sawano.

Theme song will be by Alexandros.

I'm really curious how they handle the story since the original novels were a sequel to an alternate version of Char's Counterattack where
Chan doesn't exist and Hathaway was actually the one who killed Quess. His guilt over this and his visions of Quess are what drives his character development.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Gunpla are finally available via the US P-Bandai site.

GUNDAM | PREMIUM BANDAI USA Online Store for Action Figures, Model Kits, Toys and more - Page 1

GUNDAM | BANDAI Official Online Store in America | Make-to-order Action figures, Gunpla, and Toys.
Oh man. I've gone through the whole process but I'm a little weary about the PayPal sign up. I just want a one time payment, check out as guest thing like I've done elsewhere. I don't want PayPal permanently attached to my card. Heard stories of paypal "stealing" money and would rather not be bound to them is all. Do I have anything to worry about?
 
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Oh well, opted out of the Rousette Deathscythe on the P. Bandai site because of the forced paypal sign up =[.

I had just picked up Deathscythe Hell EW (MG) and F91 (HG) from my local gunpla shop yesterday anyway (shop owner doing curbside pickup, complete with mask and gloves and disinfecting the boxes before he brings them out).

And I also have Blitz, and the Glory for Losers kits of Prototype Zero, Heavyarms, Sandrock and Shenlong or Nataku or whatever it is in my backlog.

But dang it, I like that back pack unit.
 

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Gunpla are finally available via the US P-Bandai site.

GUNDAM | PREMIUM BANDAI USA Online Store for Action Figures, Model Kits, Toys and more - Page 1

GUNDAM | BANDAI Official Online Store in America | Make-to-order Action figures, Gunpla, and Toys.
That is neat, looks like I would have saved quite a bit from picking up some exclusives elsewhere, assuming the shipping fees are reasonable.

...Are they not selling the F90 armor sets individually/separately? That is kinda a bummer for me and my standard F90 over here. E: oh nevermind, that is a F90II. Anyone preordering know if they charge immediately or on ship?
 
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Cymbal Head

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So happy about p bandai. I preordered the HG Varguil, and the total cost with shipping and tax is less than what I'd usually expect as a base price for the kit from a place like Big Bad Toy Store or Gundam Planet.
 
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So happy about p bandai. I preordered the HG Varguil, and the total cost with shipping and tax is less than what I'd usually expect as a base price for the kit from a place like Big Bad Toy Store or Gundam Planet.
So what is the best option for PayPal? Set up a separate bank account for it? Don't want it attached to my debit card as I've heard that is not a good idea. I'm itching to get that kit I mentioned earlier.
 

Velguarder

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It's going to be a long wait until September. I ordered:
- PG Unicorn Full Armor expansion
- PG Banshee expansion
- MG F90
- MG F90II
- MG Deathscythe Roussette
- MG Victory Two
- RG Tallgeese II

I can't believe the Slash Zaku is sold out already! Did they have like 4 of them?

So what is the best option for PayPal? Set up a separate bank account for it? Don't want it attached to my debit card as I've heard that is not a good idea. I'm itching to get that kit I mentioned earlier.

For what it's worth, I've had my PayPal connected to my bank account for almost a decade with no issues. Just have MFA set up on everything that you can and keep an eye on your email. You can always remove the link in your PayPal account after the fact. I'm an overly paranoid person who works in cyber security for a bank, so I live and breathe this area, and my PayPal isn't something that I lose sleep over.
 
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It's going to be a long wait until September. I ordered:
- PG Unicorn Full Armor expansion
- PG Banshee expansion
- MG F90
- MG F90II
- MG Deathscythe Roussette
- MG Victory Two
- RG Tallgeese II

I can't believe the Slash Zaku is sold out already! Did they have like 4 of them?



For what it's worth, I've had my PayPal connected to my bank account for almost a decade with no issues. Just have MFA set up on everything that you can and keep an eye on your email. You can always remove the link in your PayPal account after the fact. I'm an overly paranoid person who works in cyber security for a bank, so I live and breathe this area, and my PayPal isn't something that I lose sleep over.
Well I ordered it! Thanks for your persuasion lol.

But I'm torn between keeping it as intended by the artist or adding my "peace of mind" customized hood to the head like my non-rousette build:
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Never quite liked the idea of an all white head on Deathscythe.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sitting here watching Super Dimension Calvary Southern Cross. Show from what I remember isn't popular, but boy they at least put some effort into the music. The OP's a banger and the first real song in ep one is this:


This is some good fucking 80's J-Pop.
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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Today is the 25th anniversary of Gundam Wing.

Its also been 20 years since the show aired on Toonami. Fuck.
 

GalaxyDive

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Been watching ZZ for the first time. Through like episode 37 now.

I mean. Well.

If Tomino hadn't gone hard on what I'll call the "Anime Ja Nai Quotient" (i.e. kneerjerk-trolling complains that Zeta was too grim), the series would have been able to work well enough. Strip the most ridiculous elements and basically all of the key story beats would still work.

The first half of the series is rough though. It's become more engaging as it's continued, particularly since the gradual course correction to a more serious approach around the halfway point. Bright stood out earlier to me as at least (mostly) being able to keep his dignity, so I am a bit dismayed at him seemingly deciding to let the inmates run the asylum with the Nahel Argama lol. Sure, the kids have proven themselves some, but you are still about the only competent line of defense against Haman conquering the Earthsphere, dude. The fifteen year olds can get their work study experience another time.
 

mrmoose

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Huge Gundam fan, bought ZZ as soon as they released it subbed, and just couldn't get past the first 7 or so episodes, I just hated the kids so much. I know it gets better but man.
 

GalaxyDive

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Huge Gundam fan, bought ZZ as soon as they released it subbed, and just couldn't get past the first 7 or so episodes, I just hated the kids so much. I know it gets better but man.
It gets a lot better than Shangri-la, but the kids are the kids and they stay pretty constant.

As a production, ZZ also doesn't feel as tight as Zeta. They poured some money into the first couple eps - 3(?) had some fucking beautiful shots of the Argama flying within the colony at night - and some of the mid-series climax stuff around Dakar looked great - but there seems to be a lot more jank/off-model inbetweens etc.
 

Velguarder

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I have all of the UC Blu-rays that RightStuf have put out and I'm slowly working my way through them, jumping around a lot. ZZ is the only mainline series I've never watched. I'm kind of dreading it, but I'm trying to go into it with an open mind. Some of the suit designs from it are incredible and lead to great designs in Unicorn like Hamma Hamma to Rozen Zulu (WHICH BY THE WAY, WHERE IS MY MASTER GRADE!?).
 

mrmoose

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I have all of the UC Blu-rays that RightStuf have put out and I'm slowly working my way through them, jumping around a lot. ZZ is the only mainline series I've never watched. I'm kind of dreading it, but I'm trying to go into it with an open mind. Some of the suit designs from it are incredible and lead to great designs in Unicorn like Hamma Hamma to Rozen Zulu (WHICH BY THE WAY, WHERE IS MY MASTER GRADE!?).

As someone who grew up with the model kits as a kid but didn't see ZZ, I always like the Zeta Gundam stuff better, especially the Mamoru Nagano designs. But that may be because the ZZ toy/model kits were terrible because of the transformations.
 
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As someone who grew up with the model kits as a kid but didn't see ZZ, I always like the Zeta Gundam stuff better, especially the Mamoru Nagano designs. But that may be because the ZZ toy/model kits were terrible because of the transformations.
I love Zeta's emphasis on transforming and sleek stylish suits. ZZ seems to lean on thicc boi units.
 

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ZZ has a lot of my favorite MS designs. Shame I have to sit here and hope they will get even a hguc kit one day.
 

Jubern

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I watched the trailer for Hathaway and whyyyyyyy. Why did they changed his actor?
I don't understand why it was such a problem to cast Sasaki who's been doing it since CCA yet never had an occasion to do it in such an important fashion...

Dont like the new voice too, sounds too young...
 

Cymbal Head

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As someone who went into ZZ dreading it, I came out pleased with how much I liked it. Even the first arc on Shangri-la has some worthwhile moments as long as you don't demand the utmost seriousness.

I like it as much as Zeta. Prefer the mechanical design in Zeta, though.
 

Dysun

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ZZ is pretty good after Moon Moon. I had a better time watching it then some of the later stuff in the UC timeline.
 

GalaxyDive

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I'm actually a bit let down by ZZ's designs. I really wasn't familiar with the majority of Axis Zeon designs so was looking forward to what I'd discover since Zeta's designs were so great, but... eh.

On the hero side (which I was pretty much aware of), the only new design is the ZZ itself (coming off Zeta which gave us the Mk.II, Hyaku Shiki, Zeta, Methuss, plus the Nemo and technically even GM III). And I'm not really a fan of the ZZ. It's big, unwieldy, and its combination is much more often a liability than its heavy firepower is shown to be an asset.

And then even with Axis's somewhat jarring transition to a full-fledged army after having only been seen with construction suit-derived designs in Zeta, I can't count myself too much of a fan overall. There are a couple cool designs but definitely not as many as the Titans had.

UC-wise, I still haven't seen Victory. I may get around to it someday, but I'm not in a rush. I'm not much of a fan of the scaled-down late UC aesthetics. I decided to buckle down on ZZ because of its obvious Zeta proximity, the Unicorn relevance, and now the apparent Moon Gundam adaptation plans.

The Macross 7 comparison for ZZ seems pretty sound, actually. Only Macross series I haven't seen. Actually a bit surprised that I got around to ZZ first lol.
 
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I'm actually a bit let down by ZZ's designs. I really wasn't familiar with the majority of Axis Zeon designs so was looking forward to what I'd discover since Zeta's designs were so great, but... eh.

On the hero side (which I was pretty much aware of), the only new design is the ZZ itself (coming off Zeta which gave us the Mk.II, Hyaku Shiki, Zeta, Methuss, plus the Nemo and technically even GM III). And I'm not really a fan of the ZZ. It's big, unwieldy, and its combination is much more often a liability than its heavy firepower is shown to be an asset.

And then even with Axis's somewhat jarring transition to a full-fledged army after having only been seen with construction suit-derived designs in Zeta, I can't count myself too much of a fan overall. There are a couple cool designs but definitely not as many as the Titans had.

UC-wise, I still haven't seen Victory. I may get around to it someday, but I'm not in a rush. I'm not much of a fan of the scaled-down late UC aesthetics. I decided to buckle down on ZZ because of its obvious Zeta proximity, the Unicorn relevance, and now the apparent Moon Gundam adaptation plans.

The Macross 7 comparison for ZZ seems pretty sound, actually. Only Macross series I haven't seen. Actually a bit surprised that I got around to ZZ first lol.
Macross 7 is...interesting. It follows up on a lot of stuff introduced in the original show, like Max and Miriya's marriage. You get more of an idea on how life in space is like, but it's not as serious as the original show and like ZZ the first 20 eps or whatever seems to follow a very weird formula before it starts to develop it's plot. I will say that it's better than Delta, but that's honestly not a very hard thing to achieve. I like the bromance that goes on in M7, it's definitely a show that's better later on into the series.
 

GalaxyDive

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Bawoo is a cool design, yeah... albeit a bit weird how it just has the leg flyer thing; like they should just fold out on the tail in a Zeta-like fighter mode but they wanted Glemy to have his own combining MS or something.
 
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Distantmantra

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New shirts at Uniqlo online, grabbed the Hyaku Shiki, Strike Freedom and Unicorn ones. Buy three or more and you get a free Uniqlo branded HG model, too. You can choose between OG Gundam and Char'z Zaku.

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