A co-worker of mine went there and said the evidence is compelling. I said "did he let people come up there and look at his 'evidence'"? Got a vague answer. But he voted for Trump, so he believes bullshit.
What a douche. I thought so way back when I saw King of Kong but also kept in the back of my mind that this is a documentary and it's obviously trying to portray him as a villain for it's narrative so maybe he isn't as bad as the doc made him out to be... Nope he is even more duchey when someone is not editing his interviews.
First thing he asks for is for no one to record him... couldn't he see the camera right next to him?
People like him are just sociopaths. I don't expect this to ever end and that is exactly what Billy wants.
This is real car crash stuff. There's no need to sit about pontificating for an hour, al the guy needs to do is play the game. People in the scene will know within 10 minutes if he is capable of the scores he claimed. We've all lied about scores or beating certain games when we were kids, this entire player base got caught in it's own lies. Bullshitting each other in the name of one-upmanship, it's pathetic.
This man did not go to the lengths he went to to hide the fact he was playing on MAME without going any further. He cheated. Save states or whatever, he cheated. Plain and simple.
Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't there footage of him playing the game? We know he's "good" at it, we just don't know if he's "next in the world" good
Billy Mitchell can play classic arcade games very well. It is verifiably documented well enough and isn't an issue. What I believe happened is something I've seen before, albeit on a much smaller scale before.Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't there footage of him playing the game? We know he's "good" at it, we just don't know if he's "next in the world" good
So you're saying it's time for a head to head, in person, Mitchel vs Wiebe battle?!
Lol man if you want to find a mentally ill potentially dangerous figure in this area, there is a guy you should look up, it's absolutely mind boggling.
https://retrobitch.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/radical-felines-when-harassment-becomes-a-game/
And his blog
http://rudyferretti.blogspot.com/?m=1
Billy Mitchell can play classic arcade games very well. It is verifiably documented well enough and isn't an issue. What I believe happened is something I've seen before, albeit on a much smaller scale before.
He has been doing this a long time and feels he has already proven his worth. He knows he can break a million, and possibly even take the lead back, he has already proven ability in the past, it is just a formality at this point. So why even bother spending the loads and loads of hours giving it serious effort? It is a strange twisted logic of being an obsessive element in life and also equally not worth the time. So fake it with save states or spliced footage or whatever. He knows he could do it if he really wanted to and that is good enough justification for faking it.
Anyone who has ever fudged there way through a game using save states or whatever knows this feeling. You know you could spend the time to learn the patterns and try, try, try, try, but eh.. why bother.
He'll probably be the next president. Guy is a first rate showman. Obviously everything he's saying is complete lies and bullshit tho.
So you're saying it's time for a head to head, in person, Mitchel vs Wiebe battle?!
Mitchell/Day 2020 with Brian Kuh as campaign manager.
"There is a United States of America kill screen coming up"
Now George "GLC" Louis Costanza is a real arcade high score champion.
Dude what?!
Lol man if you want to find a mentally ill potentially dangerous figure in this area, there is a guy you should look up, it's absolutely mind boggling.
https://retrobitch.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/radical-felines-when-harassment-becomes-a-game/
And his blog
http://rudyferretti.blogspot.com/?m=1
I kind of feel like disgraced former Donkey Kong champion is as good a qualification for that job these days as any.He'll probably be the next president. Guy is a first rate showman. Obviously everything he's saying is complete lies and bullshit tho.
It's the best movie about video games by about a mile.I've never seen King of Kongs, but all this mess about Billy Mitchell in the past few months has me thinking I should finally actually watch it. I wonder if it's available to rent on amazon or something... (edit: yep. I got something to do tonight, I guess. It's rentable on Amazon)
The pre-2000 scores were all done live at a Twin Galaxies place. Why wouldn't they stand?
Btw, the Donkey Kong at the expo wasn't a "real" DK, which he mentions at 59 mins.
Ok. I guess that makes sense. I didn't make it that far this go 'round.
IIRC they found that even the available version of MAME properly tweaked to have the proper framerate Donkey Kong arcade would run at (which would be an important adjustment if wanting to pass off emulation as arcade perfect) would cause the "finger girder" to show.MAME 116 to 1122 became available THREE years after Billy submitted the score. Billy vindicated. This really does look like someone was brought in to take him down for whatever reason.
MAME 116 to 1122 became available THREE years after Billy submitted the score. Billy vindicated. This really does look like someone was brought in to take him down for whatever reason.
IIRC they found that even the available version of MAME properly tweaked to have the proper framerate Donkey Kong arcade would run at (which would be an important adjustment if wanting to pass off emulation as arcade perfect) would cause the "finger girder" to show.
- While we know for certain that an unmodified original DK arcade PCB did not output the display seen in the videotaped score performances, we cannot definitively conclude that what is on the tapes is MAME.
- To definitively conclude that MAME was used, Twin Galaxies would need to comprehensively rule out the possibility of all other methods that could produce what is seen on the tapes. This would mean testing all other emulators other than MAME across all other platforms to eliminate the possibility that a different emu was used. It would also mean testing visual effects software and anything else we can think of to be definitively certain. This kind of testing is beyond the scope of the dispute case needs.
I am fine with TG stripping even legitimate scores as punishment. It's what they had in the rules for what they do to everyone else, so it sends (in theory, at least) a strong message that even players like Billy or Todd Rodgers are no longer protected figures in the community (although they definitely tried their hardest to protect Todd Rogers during the Dragster dispute for several months).
IIRC they found that even the available version of MAME properly tweaked to have the proper framerate Donkey Kong arcade would run at (which would be an important adjustment if wanting to pass off emulation as arcade perfect) would cause the "finger girder" to show.
As far as what was shown in the documentary, during the dispute they had a copy of what they felt was a confirmed recording of Billy's performance and that was what was being looked at. Some people tried to disprove that it was Billy's performance but a lot of the theories were very unlikely (like claiming it was a perfect recreation done by someone else) so those ideas never took off, so while it's possible that it's not actually Billy's performance I don't think anyone managed to show that it wasn't. I'm honestly not sure what the missing tapes thing is about.Interesting. How are people disproving his paper trail and video evidence? Also, how do people explain the missing tapes and how edited footage of those tapes appeared in a documentary? It seems like he's making good points unless I'm missing something.
That is true, I did mostly want to point out a possible explanation that was brought up though.That was addressed in TG's final ruling and various other possible explanations were extensively explored in the 326 page dispute thread. Their determination was not based on MAME being used, but that they concluded unmodified original DK hardware was not used, based on the shitloads of comparisons over the months of review.
Lol man if you want to find a mentally ill potentially dangerous figure in this area, there is a guy you should look up, it's absolutely mind boggling.
https://retrobitch.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/radical-felines-when-harassment-becomes-a-game/
And his blog
http://rudyferretti.blogspot.com/?m=1
To be honest I'm not really all that informed about this whole Twin Galaxies thing going on. I did a search on that guy and this video was up, fairly fresh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GvUDBjnG34
It's a weird world I don't want to part of and yes there is some mental illness going on.
Correct me if Im wrong, but isn't there footage of him playing the game? We know he's "good" at it, we just don't know if he's "next in the world" good
Holy crap, that was so satisfying knowing what I know now (current events) while watching King of Kong.
Man, that was really good. I should've taken the hint and watched it when my Pop, of all people, was telling me how it was a good watch all those years ago.