Truth is this review thread is much calmer than i thought it would be until that drama.
Part of that is thanks to Era not allow the BS that other places allowing .
The Last of Us Part II - Review Thread
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Truth is this review thread is much calmer than i thought it would be until that drama.
Part of that is thanks to Era not allow the BS that other places allowing .
Now people can't talk anything about Jason because of crunch culture?
He overreacted and started a drama because of a film comparison, saying Jeff compared to the holocaust itself. That's a really big thing.
Jason mentioned that happened in the replies on one of the tweets. So he was surprised to see Neil call him out again.
Wow, that review is fucking incredible. It tells you so much about the flaws and the strengths of the game without getting into the plot. What an excellent metaphor to use as the basis.That's such a good review, definitely one of my faves with this one
'Last of Us Part II' Is Great, but Can't Escape Its Father's Shadow
'The Last of Us' was the quintessential dad game. Its sequel is destined to be the archetype of something else: the daughter game.www.wired.com
Have we even seen reviewers gameplay at this point? All the video reviews contain the exact same snippets.
Polygon? If they are playing on anything higher than normal and complain about bad combat then I wouldn't take it seriously anymore.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
It's like Cuphead all over again lol
I think the bolded is the issue. And I don't want this to just be about the drama, but rather so often whenever a movie that is based on or references historical events is compared to something entirely fictional there is pretty much always some amount of people that just assume the comparison is made between the events the movie is based on. Or even if it's not based on real events so often parallels are made to real world events. Like Room is an incredible film and it's writing is better and more complex than God of War 2018, but if somebody wanted to make a comparison about the difficulty in raising a child and how to deal with emotional trauma and help them heal I wouldn't scream, "this is ridiculous God of War is a kill stuff simulator" sort of pithy comment. I would, I hope, engage in a thoughtful discussion about what those two pieces of entertainment have to say about a very difficult subject.
I still loved the game but it's sad that my favorite part was calling a close friend during the first trailer (that we didn't know was a MGS trailer) and discuss if it might be MGS and what it could mean for an hour. Literally only Metal Gear Solid has ever done that!
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For god's sake, leave this discussion out of this thread, I know mods closed the thread about this subject but it's not like people have to use this one for this. We should talk about The Last of us 2 reviews, not moral attitude from developers and journalists.
I even asked about what people are saying about the level design and got no answers whatsoever lol
I'll ask again, see if it works this time:
One of my gripes with the original was how 'gamey' the level design was when it came to stealth/shooting sections. Often with very obvious boxes and waist-high barriers in random places that signposted "a combat section is coming up." Has that been improved upon in this game?
Not every reviewer is gonna be an expert on TPS(assuming this wasn't just one specific moment of aiming difficulty). If anything, hearing a novice's opinion on the game would be refreshing.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Probably part of that embargo several people insisted wasn't a big deal when some reviewers complained about it.
That's actually impressive seeing as it looked harder NOT to shoot the guy.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
It's the exact same area due to review guidelines, but it's definitely unique playthroughs by the reviewers.
i mean we all have those days were our shots are off but god damn thats embarrassing, why would you even share this footage? Unless they are intentionally missing to demonstrate the reticle assist featuredo you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
I'm not sure this was from a reviewer or? Some random gameplay uploaded to Youtube. But yeah it's hard for me to take Giant Bomb seriously after watching them trying to play Death Stranding for example
I think they are all from the same area as the SoP demo.
I am sorry but I see a whole lot of contradictions just in this message of yours. I follow your work as well and think a lot your pieces are insightful.
Coming to the actual topic, you claim your criticism and publicly ridiculing his tweet innocuous, but cannot take his comparison in the same way. That is it being a simple innocuous comparison of a great movie to a game, that he thought was great? Secondly, saying a public figure should be able to take it, while you yourself time and again just ban people, who try to rationalize or point out the same thing in such tweets of yours. One can just go to the twitter thread of this tweet to see multiple examples, where few users, in a very civil way, pointed it out and got blocked by you.
I am sorry to say but I just see hypocrisy in this. But end of the day you have the freedom to conduct yourself as you see fit. Blanket statements are very easy to throw around and I feel it's better for people to once in a while step back and see the bigger picture. Peace.
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Where is this from? Lol. Really poor aim. Should wait for the recoil to subside and then calmly refocus their aim, not spam shoot haphazardly.
On your point, absolutely.
This is going to sound harsh and condescending, but there's been several times where I've watched streams, let's plays etc of journos or YT personalities playing games (shooters, racing games etc), and then their complaints about the game suddenly make sense, and often times it's not the game that's the issue, but the persons skill level or aptitude to use the multitude of mechanics, mobility or tools a game provides them with.
I also find some gamers on stream will often not properly read tips, tutorial messages etc, and then not know a certain option or ability exists (thus souring their gameplay experience), or complain about its omission later.
staff post - stay on topic
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
That is just sad lol.
But yes seeing how reviews play do effect what i think about certain parts of there review .
Like for eg when it comes to fighting games i don't take much review serious when they talk about gameplay .
I wonder if people are going to have the Bioshock Infinite opinion change on this game after a few years.
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Oh look someone filmed me playing
:p
That's pretty dope!
I don't frequent a lot of review threads, but from what I've read they're usually shitholes. I don't know if TLOU2 would've been considered a standard Era review thread, but I was relatively surprised at how calm it was lol. Like the biggest subject matters that were discussed here have largely been an excerpt from the Polygon review, killing dogs trained to kill, movies, and whether or not so-and-so's review will bring down the game's absolutely stellar meta by a point LOL.
Now we got this twitter drama over a comparison that keeps going over people's heads, with a rush of new people who have previously never contributed in this thread.
Omg who is playing heredo you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
I'm just sad that the Kojima's immense improvements in cinematography coincided with two of his worst stories so far.
Seriously. Some of the cutscenes in MGSV are my favorite ever in a game. But it's no coincidence that these cutscenes happen to be ones that have very little focus on the plot.
It's got to be from someone at Kotaku 🤭😂😂😂do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Oh boy, does he keep missing despite aim assist? (those crosshairs around the enemy)do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Agreed! I think certain topics just generate an innate emotional response from people before they even think about what message the person may have been trying to convey. Still Jeff should have chose his words more carefully.
edit: sorry for assisting in derailing the thread, this will be my last post discussing the topic. Back to Part II!
Digital Foundry mentioned this exact point and said it is much improved.
Well she can jump and climb and go under things now so i guess it can't be as bad as part 1 i hope.
Not played it myself ofc, but from videos I've seen it seems to be improved due to being more open, plus the extra mobility options mean that you don't necessarily need a ton of waist-high cover all over the place.
I've seen this often in reviews lol makes me question their credibility in terms of how good or not good the combat is. The general consensus around the game though is that the combat encounters are great.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
The funny part is that this terribly played gif highlights how the AI just stands there waiting for you to finally hit them instead of running and hiding.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
I played the first one soon after I got my PS3, and I was terrible at aiming with a controller. I didn't enjoy my experience at all lol.do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
Then I played the remaster on ps4, with way more hours of practice, and holy shit I enjoyed that.
So yeah, I can totally see how a poor skill can ruin a game. But if you're a good reviewer, that shouldn't impact your assessment of gameplay.
how is discussing the director of the games thin skinned response to people reacting to the hyperbole of the reviews for this game not on topic lmao
if only there was a seperate thread to discuss it 🙃
if only there was a seperate thread to discuss it 🙃
Was this a Polygon reviewer playing?
do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
I like how the player goes to the BFV on the back prone tactic, lol. None of those shots connected!do you think seeing a reviewers gameplay could impact how seriously you take their opinion
wow that's an incredibly well written review that does such a great job of explaining what the game is narrative-ly without going into spoilersThat's such a good review, definitely one of my faves with this one
'Last of Us Part II' Is Great, but Can't Escape Its Father's Shadow
'The Last of Us' was the quintessential dad game. Its sequel is destined to be the archetype of something else: the daughter game.
Nope. I primarily watch him and Easy Allies for reviews so it's frustrating because Karak is great.