I know, I was just wondering if they added different speeds in the full version. It was a bit too fast in the demo for me, something like 2x would be perfect.
Oh god, I just thought about Falcom looking at the new Atelier and how well it did for some inspiration lolyou can try out turbo with the demo
character designs is just falcom following the trends, seeing how thicc thighs are the new hot thing it probably won't get better soon
i'm just waiting for japan to ban lolicon pedobaitOh god, I just thought about Falcom looking at the new Atelier and how well it did for some inspiration lol
Skimmed through some reviews in hopes of finding more info on the turbo function (with little luck) and sheesh, the character designs seem to just keep getting weebier with every entry. It's all getting way too horny for me, so I hope they tone that stuff down again after Cold Steel arc.
Considering that CS1 just sort of stops in the middle of a cutscene that sounds like an achievement.
I haven't played ZTD but I have played CS4 and it is not remotely as bad as people make ZTD sound. I do think it's significantly worse than CS3 though. The main issue is the pacing, which is easily the worst of any Trails game. There's also a major plot point that's conveyed a bit poorly, to the point where Kondo has admitted to it in interviews and tried to explain...which only made things more confusing as he seemed to be directly contradicting what explanation the game did have.I've heard the same thing, that it's the Zero Time Dilemma to the Trails series. If true it kind of kills my motivation to try and continue with the series.
Hahah I guess. Though from what I understand, it's worse in terms of the amount of open questions and where it leaves you in the story... Not necessarily in presentation (aka, just cutting off a cut scene abruptly). If a story intends to end on a cliffhanger, usually you realize they are planning and building towards a cliffhanger before the credits actually happen. That wasn't the case with CS1, that came totally out of left field. Not sure if that will actually be the same in CS3.
CS3 has the worst cliffhanger in the series by far, by every possible metric.
Indeed all great games my ranking is:Mmm, for me it's Ao > CS2 > 3rd > SC > CS1 > Zero > FC.
They're all great games though.
CS3 has the worst cliffhanger in the series by far, by every possible metric.
Oh boy... the wait for CS4 is going to be excruciating.CS3 has the worst cliffhanger in the series by far, by every possible metric.
There's nothing in the options for it at least, just on/off with the touchpad.I know, I was just wondering if they added different speeds in the full version. It was a bit too fast in the demo for me, something like 2x would be perfect.
There's nothing in the options for it at least, just on/off with the touchpad.
CS4 is fine.
Honestly, CS4 is a year or so out - there's no need to overthink whether or not CS4 will be bad/good/somewhere-in-between. If you're skeptical, wait for more impressions/reviews in a year's time.
Does the game have its issues? Of course. But just as people can easily get soaked into a narrow perspective of things like hearing about fanbase gatekeeping of how CS3 has too much connection with previous games in the series that you shouldn't play it, ( even though reviewers who are less attached to it can find the game/story plenty fun - and made him wanna play CS1/2 ) - you end up often seeing the side of the argument that is perhaps too heated.
Don't worry, I won't let it deter me from wanting to play it at all! I'll maybe just go in with slightly lower expectations than I am for CS3. And I wouldn't dream of another game stopping me from playing this game... We only have the luxury of even having information on the quality of the next game due to the localizations being behind, but technically, I would be judging (to stay on Zero Escape series terms) Virtue's Last Reward by the quality of Zero Time Dilemma, and that just doesn't make sense.
That being said you seem very confident in CS4 being a year out for us... Did I miss any sort of announcement or tease or are you making an educated guess here?
If anything Cold Steel 1 and 2 (probably 2 mostly) are the most divisive games in the series. At least among western fans. And CS4 might be divisive, I've seen some iffy impressions on it that made it sound like a step backwards from CS3.
4 might be quite a bit more divisive because it has it's position as an ending of sorts so people don't need to pull their punches anymore because they can't judge without the full picture.CS3 had great impressions from folks who played the Japanese version.
And Sky 3rd is great, but there is a split between the Japanese and western fanbase. It's a lot more popular in the west.
If anything Cold Steel 1 and 2 (probably 2 mostly) are the most divisive games in the series. At least among western fans. And CS4 might be divisive, I've seen some iffy impressions on it that made it sound like a step backwards from CS3.
Educated guess. Falcom has hinted continued partnership with NISA, realistically a CS3 deal will have CS4 as part of the localisation deal. And CS3/4 are such big games that realistically it's not ideal, both from marketing and localisation standpoint to rush the product out. I'm thinking a year partly due to the fact that too long would also be annoying.
To be honest, I put CS2 only below SC and CS1 above FC and Zero main series wise, though I might need to revisit CS1 to see I'd put it even higher since it's been a while (and for context, I did Sky trilogy, then Cold Steel 1 and 2 since I heard Crossbell's translation was bad, then I did Crossbell anyway since it wasn't going to make it in time for CS3 and the translation was just as bad as I feared, which might explain why I wasn't as invested in those characters as I was with the other games).How are CS I and II divise when most people agree they are the weakest entries in the series? Specially true for CS I.
You could make a case for FC, but I think I've never seen somebody rank CS I or II above SC, The 3rd or the Crossbell duology.
CS3 has the worst cliffhanger in the series by far, by every possible metric.
To note, there's less to think about with orbment setups in CS, no longer needing specific quartz combinations to make specific arts available. Though element-locked slots are still a thing, every quartz is quite direct in regards to what it does when you set it, so that would just leave considering what Master Quartz is best to use according to character/stats/bonuses.Good, gives me something to look forward to. Story and characters are important (which is primarily why I've been sticking with FC), but what keeps me playing is the combat mechanics, and it's really dated with FC, although it's not so bad that I can't bring myself to play it. Just want something slightly more engaging. I even started over about six hours into playing on the Normal difficulty and changed it to Hard. I think I get more out of the orb combinations than the actual combat itself so far. The game definitely has its charms though.
Meanwhile, I have played ZTD, yet find it impossible to picture any given Trails game as being as awful as that turd (even with being alerted to lower my expectations for CS IV).I haven't played ZTD but I have played CS4 and it is not remotely as bad as people make ZTD sound. I do think it's significantly worse than CS3 though. The main issue is the pacing, which is easily the worst of any Trails game. There's also a major plot point that's conveyed a bit poorly, to the point where Kondo has admitted to it in interviews and tried to explain...which only made things more confusing as he seemed to be directly contradicting what explanation the game did have.
Which is why Metacritic is worthless and I have no idea why anyone ever listens to it for anything.Review weighting. I don't know anything about Opencritic but I know Metacritic weighs reviews depending on the outlet so some have more influence on the score than others.
I'm hoping NISA manages to get CS 4 out by this time next year, since yeah the cliffhanger in 3 is really bad. I played 3 close to 4's release in Japanese so fortunately I didn't have to wait long.
are you me?I would probably rank the series as 3rd>Ao>Zero>FC>SC>CS1>CS2. It feels wrong to rank CS1 so low because I actually really love that game lol. CS2 is really the only one I'm particularly critical of (but gosh if it doesn't have the best character designs for Class VII).
I'm at the same spot as you. Kinda hoping by the time I get through the third Sky game that there will be some word of an official localization of the Crossbell games. Sounds like it could happen from what Falcom has said in the recent past, but will probably still be quite a wait.I really need to catch up on this series (I've only played Sky FC & SC). Own Cold Steel 2 on PC thanks to a contest. I figure by the time I catch up, there's a really good chance that this will be on PC.
He's definitely one of the most plot relevant characters in class VII, even in CS3 and CS4, so I think you're in good hands... For the most part.Looking good!
I really want mah boi Jusis to have a bigger role, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Unlikely considering the first two games were published by a different company.
Maybe they will, CS3 is not out yet.XSEED could've put the first two games on sale to capitalize on CS3's release. Oh well.
I'm waiting so I can rebuy them on ps4 >.>XSEED could've put the first two games on sale to capitalize on CS3's release. Oh well.
They always go overlooked too. Despite being a long-running franchise, they are overlooked games, and still considered a niche franchise. Its awesome its getting the attention it finally deserves.I'm so happy CS3 it's getting a lot of positive reviews. Kiseki games are such a amazing story that deserves more recognition.
They're good games brentHow are CS I and II divise when most people agree they are the weakest entries in the series? Specially true for CS I.
You could make a case for FC, but I think I've never seen somebody rank CS I or II above SC, The 3rd or the Crossbell duology.
The consensus seems to be that this is like CS I but better, so there's a chance you'll like it more than II.I liked 1 and disliked 2. I was actually surprised at how much I disliked 2. I'm hoping this one is better, I'll pick it up down the line.
They hardly ever give the Sky games decent sales on Steam, so I don't expect them to.XSEED could've put the first two games on sale to capitalize on CS3's release. Oh well.
You mean the frequency or the price? I've always been under the impression the latter are decided by Falcom themselves.They hardly ever give the Sky games decent sales on Steam, so I don't expect them to.
I think you're thinking of CS4, which was apparently divisive ?
Agreed with this, but CS3 does a good job actually giving the main idea of it from CS 2Remember to watch CS2 NG+ Black Record ending, I have idea why they hid that behind mode 99% of players won't play.
It's a significant story reveal that's canon.