Dickie makes him pinky swear to avoid criminal activity, he is adamant he wants nothing to do with Mafia life by throwing speakers out the window, then Dickie is murdered and now he makes a pinky swear promising to be a gangster? I just didn't understand that character's jump, maybe I missed something.
As per his last conversation with Silvio he has him call Tony to discuss becoming involved at the restaurant we see him waiting at in the end.
I also didn't like how Harold's plot just fell off a cliff, and how Christopher provides narration from beyond the grave without ever really saying anything meaningful. This is a guy who was murdered by Tony, self aware about his own death, narrating a story about his father and Tony. But he never comes to terms with anything, or provide any commentary on what happened to him or what happened to his father. He's just a disembodied ghost voice. Is his only purpose to be self referential for fans? I don't really understand the choice to have him narrate.
probably one of the dimeosI'm not super sharp on the lore, but I'm surprised we got Silvio and Pauline and pussy shoved down our throats but no Richie Aprile, Feech, or Jackie's dad?
im also not clear on who was the "don" as that time
Nah he gave up on trying to not have him get involved when he set up the meeting. If he didn't want him to get in he would have kept ignoring him. Silvio convinced him to change his mind because he felt he would be a good addition. So in essence his death was deserved because he ignored his uncle's advice and his own desire to do a good dead by deciding to let Tony into the "family".This. The idea is that perhaps if Dickie lived he would've been able to successfully steer Tony away from that life. However, his death ensured Tony would become a gangster.
I looked it up and you're right – and there's no character with that last name in movie. Somehow the don never shows up; Incredible
not like they're very important. in the show the DiMeos are never shown and barely mentioned.I looked it up and you're right – and there's no character with that last name in movie. Somehow the don never shows up; Incredible
In the show the Dimeo's had been supplanted by the Aprile's. You know, the Don in the first episode, and his dumbass son with delusions of grandeur in the following seasons. Plus, the widow is Carmella's best friend.not like they're very important. in the show the DiMeos are never shown and barely mentioned.
I looked it up and you're right – and there's no character with that last name in movie. Somehow the don never shows up; Incredible
Wow. Not surprised Chase went uncredited.David Chase plays Eckley DiMeo at Buddha's funeral - and Junior says "Eckley, how's the boy?" I believe he is mentioned in season 1 as being in prison with a life sentence.
I also didn't like how Christopher provides narration from beyond the grave without ever really saying anything meaningful. This is a guy who was murdered by Tony, self aware about his own death, narrating a story about his father and Tony. But he never comes to terms with anything, or provide any commentary on what happened to him or what happened to his father. He's just a disembodied ghost voice. Is his only purpose to be self referential for fans? I don't really understand the choice to have him narrate.
I might be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure the narration was added last minute, after test screenings, because viewers couldn't work out who certain characters were.
Yeah it's pretty ambiguous in the show but it's pretty much confirmed now that Tony was just manipulating Chris. Or maybe even killing two birds with one stone and needed to get rid of that cop who as Tony says "outlived his usefulness"So Tony never knew who really killed Dicky? It was always sus if that cop he had Christopher kill even did it in the show, but I always assumed Tony knew the truth.
He was playing him gay, it was bizarre. The face and deliveries seemed passable but the head and body language was so over the topSilvio's actor tried too hard, felt like an SNL parody.
Michael did phenomenal though
So Tony never knew who really killed Dicky? It was always sus if that cop he had Christopher kill even did it in the show, but I always assumed Tony knew the truth.
Like in his last scene with Dickie, he overdid it with his neck tilt, made him look like he scoliosis or something lolHe was playing him gay, it was bizarre. The face and deliveries seemed passable but the head and body language was so over the top
For real. Nobody acts like that in real life. He was already ridiculous in the show.I still think you guys are being too hard on the Silvio character. It was never not going to be that.
Silvio is a very stereotypically over-the-top character on the Sopranos.
I enjoyed the film primarily because of the great acting and getting to see these characters again. Dickie, Harold, Giuseppina, and Livia in particular were so good.
But imo the story left a lot to be desired. Dickie's arc . . . he was a dick and then he died? Ok. I don't really understand Tony's arc. Dickie makes him pinky swear to avoid criminal activity, he is adamant he wants nothing to do with Mafia life by throwing speakers out the window, then Dickie is murdered and now he makes a pinky swear promising to be a gangster? I just didn't understand that character's jump, maybe I missed something.
I also didn't like how Harold's plot just fell off a cliff, and how Christopher provides narration from beyond the grave without ever really saying anything meaningful. This is a guy who was murdered by Tony, self aware about his own death, narrating a story about his father and Tony. But he never comes to terms with anything, or provide any commentary on what happened to him or what happened to his father. He's just a disembodied ghost voice. Is his only purpose to be self referential for fans? I don't really understand the choice to have him narrate.
Basically I guess I feel that several plot lines were half baked. Maybe the film tried to do too much.
It was still enjoyable though and I'll watch anything Sopranos related.
I still think you guys are being too hard on the Silvio character. It was never not going to be that.
Silvio is a very stereotypically over-the-top character on the Sopranos.
One of the saddest parts of this movie is that it shows that Livia did love her children and maybe if Dickie lived a little longer she might have gotten the help she needed with those meds he was going to try to get her to take.
It didn't take long for them to show the audience how much of a piece of shit all these people were though.
from the movie i gather that after johnny's prison sentence broke livia, she was alot more normal before the timeskip. after the timeskip to when johnny is released, she showed her issues alot more.Did she? She's insane. Perhaps if she had gotten medicated this would've changed things, but without she didn't show much compassion.
There's one scene where the counselor tells her about one of Tony's most favorite memories of his life and it's about her reading a story to him in bed and just hugging him. She gets all emotional then tries to cook Tony breakfast and have a good conversation with him but it quickly goes bad because she's fucking nuts by that point and her mind is twisting her all over the place.Did she? She's insane. Perhaps if she had gotten medicated this would've changed things, but without she didn't show much compassion.
There's one scene where the counselor tells her about one of Tony's most favorite memories of his life and it's about her reading a story to him in bed and just hugging him. She gets all emotional then tries to cook Tony breakfast and have a good conversation with him but it quickly goes bad because she's fucking nuts by that point and her mind is twisting her all over the place.
It's probably a sub-plot that would've been way better if the movie was a new series instead.
no, no, no, yesAs far as cameos go was Ralphie, Phil, Richie or Jackie in it?
Should have been a limited series. Moved too fast. Could have easily been 8 episodes split 4 and 4. Then again more length doesn't always fix pacing, as seen with The Irishman.
Other than that it was fine. A few laughs, some good scenes. Enjoyable, forgettable.
Well, that is actually a legit complaint there. Du fuq writers.You think that he would have the baby with the other woman, take it to his wife and not be mentioned at all for the rest of the film? I don't think not having her own salon would be her main gripe for the rest of the film 🤣
?Well, that is actually a legit complaint there. Du fuq writers.