The Weeknd calls out the Grammys
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Statement from the Grammy's
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The Weeknd Lashes Out at Recording Academy: “The Grammys Remain Corrupt”
The nominations for the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards were announced on afternoon, with expected favorites like Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Dua Lipa and Post Malone snagging nominations in the Big Four categories.
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Are you me? Cause I think the same about Bruno Mars and Weeknd as well lol.
His is even less interesting! The Grammy's are garbage unfortunately.
Yeah just listened to this for the first time. It's okay, I guess? Kind of proto for its genre and catchy/boring. My wife likes it though and she immediately said 'they always play this' (on the radio).
So yeah, power to those that like it. 1.67 billion streams tells me people love it. Also, I can't find House of Balloons on Spotify. I remember liking it in 2012, wonder how it's aged.
So yeah, power to those that like it. 1.67 billion streams tells me people love it. Also, I can't find House of Balloons on Spotify. I remember liking it in 2012, wonder how it's aged.
Not going to bother quoting because I don't want to get into any back-and-forth, but you know you dislike something without having to shit all over the artist. You're so cool that you don't like one of the top artists in the world who has grown with every release , is great live, never really phones anything in, wears his heart on his sleeve. You're so ,so cool. Some of the same people trashing him are the same people that love to be toxic and pit pop artists against each other, not surprising at all
Yeah, it's a case of Grammy hubris, to be honest.
It's true that he submitted mainly in Pop categories, and it's likely that this is what cost him getting any nominations in the Genre Fields. It's obvious that other artists were bigger in the Pop field or were better known as Pop artists. I bet he would have gotten nominations submitting in the R&B categories (Yes, I understand that this is racially tinged and problematic, but it's probably the case). The top vote getters just outright get the nominations here, so going outside of the perceived genre probably was enough to put Bieber over him.
As far as the General categories go, they look at the top vote getters (I think top 25) in each of the categories and have a committee determine the slate of nominees (I think this is done to ensure some sort of gender/genre diversity, etc...). I have to assume that The Weeknd was a top 25 vote getter in at least Record and Album of the year, but it's entirely possible that the committees for those categories just opted for other choices, possibly because they understood that he failed to get Genre nominations (though nonsense like Beyonce getting 2 ROTY nominations and Post Malone getting nominated in the top 3 categories is a clear indicator that the process is flawed).
Looking at the Pop Vocal album nominees, only Bieber is an outwardly goofy choice over The Weeknd.
Best Pop Vocal Album
"Changes" — Justin Bieber
"Chromatica" — Lady Gaga
"Future Nostalgia" — Dua Lipa
"Fine Line" — Harry Styles
"Folklore" — Taylor Swift
Here were The Weeknd's submissions:
After Hours: AOTY, Pop Vocal Album, Engineered Album
Blinding Lights: ROTY, SOTY, Pop Solo Perf, Best Music Video
In Your Eyes (Remix): Pop Duo/Group Perf
Over Now: Pop Duo/Group Perf
Smile: Melodic Rap Perf
On the Couch: Song For Visual Media
Literally all of them (including Bieber) managed to get other nominations, so it's hard to cry foul about any of them.
It's still funny that Bieber complained about being in Pop instead of R&B, though.
ever since they gave macklemore that grammy over kendrick gkmc ive never taken the grammy's seriously what a worthless ass award
It's like Craig David all over again. (Insert award show name) remain as shit as ever.
You're right, but part of the issue is another artist that shouldn't care will show up to pick up a Grammy and keep it relevant longer than it should be.
I don't think they (the Grammys) care if Drake or Tyler trash them after if they still got to show them attending/on screen. But then again, maybe the play for artists is for what it gives you within the label machine? Bigger budgets or other avenues for the music? Or maybe people just want the stat.
To not even get a nom in what was by all accounts a weak year for music. I love jhene but I am SHOCKED she snagged album of the year, same goes for Jacob Collier. He's a music genius but by all accounts his music is messy and hella niche. I'm shocked he's nom for album of the year and am low-key pissed that next team he tours his tickets won't cost 20 cad dollars.
Also, LOL at my queen B getting all them nom for an album released last year, that I loved, but got almost no hype in America.
Just look at the sorry state of that best r&b album list hahaha this man pissed off some ppl
Also, LOL at my queen B getting all them nom for an album released last year, that I loved, but got almost no hype in America.
Just look at the sorry state of that best r&b album list hahaha this man pissed off some ppl
He submitted for nominations in Pop instead of R&B, which is probably what cost him nominations. Among his 10 previous nominations and 3 previous wins, he only had one previous nomination in the Pop categories (Pop Vocal Performance nomination for I Can't Feel My Face).
Didn't think much of the snub at first (Grammys will randomly do this shit every now and then) but this is really damming and something needs to be done about the Recording Academy's process of selecting the nominees.
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Justin Bieber
Changes: AOTY, Pop Vocal Album
Intentions: ROTY, SOTY, Pop Duo/Group Perf
Stuck With U: ROTY, SOTY, Pop Duo/Group Perf
10,000 Hours: (ROTY, SOTY), Country Song, Country Duo/Group Perf
Yummy: Pop Solo Perf
Bieber did indeed submit it Pop, despite his complaints that he should have been considered in R&B lol.
Changes: AOTY, Pop Vocal Album
Intentions: ROTY, SOTY, Pop Duo/Group Perf
Stuck With U: ROTY, SOTY, Pop Duo/Group Perf
10,000 Hours: (ROTY, SOTY), Country Song, Country Duo/Group Perf
Yummy: Pop Solo Perf
Bieber did indeed submit it Pop, despite his complaints that he should have been considered in R&B lol.
Dayum, no...no I don't remember, or rather, I didn't know Coldplay dropped an album haha.
Tbh, the Grammys awards snubbing the weekend for A nomination is shocking to me. Critical acclaim + one of the highest selling albums of the year. That would usually do it for you at the Grammies. Also, that dua Lipa album is legit amazing and funny enough is similar to binding lights.
not really buying itStatement from the Grammy's
The Weeknd Lashes Out at Recording Academy: “The Grammys Remain Corrupt”
The nominations for the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards were announced on afternoon, with expected favorites like Taylor Swift, Beyoncé, Dua Lipa and Post Malone snagging nominations in the Big Four categories.
There's a difference between when the performance was announced and when the back and forth negotiations were happening
you ain't slick, Grammys
To raise awareness of the corruption and pettiness that if Grammys doesn't get exclusive performances from an artist, they're going to snub them on purpose.
Again, there's a lot of unfounded assumption of bad faith here. The Weekend submitting his album/top track in Pop instead of R&B probably is the cause for snub... not some conspiracy.
The Grammy ballot is something like 85 categories long. Virtually no one votes in every category across the board. Artists generally only vote in the categories that they have expertise in and in the general categories. The Weeknd's fanbase is probably not predominantly interested in voting in the Pop field (he only has one previous nomination out of 10 in the Pop field).
The way that the General field works (i.e. Best New Artist, Song, Record, and Album of the year) is that they have a committee of ~20 voters drawn from across all of the fields who review the top 20 vote getters in each category and put them to a second (confidential) nominating vote, resulting in the 8 actual nominees. The idea here is to ensure diversity of genre and artists among the General Field nominees (as well as diversity in gender and genre among this smaller subset of voters). It's quite probable that The Weeknd was initially in the mix here (i.e. was in the top 20 vote getters for Record or Album of the Year), but lost out in this final vote, resulting in no nomination.
The Grammy ballot is something like 85 categories long. Virtually no one votes in every category across the board. Artists generally only vote in the categories that they have expertise in and in the general categories. The Weeknd's fanbase is probably not predominantly interested in voting in the Pop field (he only has one previous nomination out of 10 in the Pop field).
The way that the General field works (i.e. Best New Artist, Song, Record, and Album of the year) is that they have a committee of ~20 voters drawn from across all of the fields who review the top 20 vote getters in each category and put them to a second (confidential) nominating vote, resulting in the 8 actual nominees. The idea here is to ensure diversity of genre and artists among the General Field nominees (as well as diversity in gender and genre among this smaller subset of voters). It's quite probable that The Weeknd was initially in the mix here (i.e. was in the top 20 vote getters for Record or Album of the Year), but lost out in this final vote, resulting in no nomination.
I'm surprised he'd be in his feels about Grammys. They have always been an ain't shit organization and he already has a ton of them, so it's not like not getting any could impact his career or popularity. That said, show the votes.
Yummy fucking got a nomination the Grammys can stay in the trash. Blinding Lights on its own deserved a nomination.
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The Grammy's have always been corrupt garbage, but The Weeknd not being nominated wouldn't be what I'd use as evidence of that
This has to be personal when Blinding Lights was playing for literally months non-stop
Also,as usual it's fuck the Grammys until it's Grammy season and people start giving a shit again lol
Also,as usual it's fuck the Grammys until it's Grammy season and people start giving a shit again lol
I only care for the American Roots categories when it goes to to Grammy's, especially the Blues ones, and the picks have been always really solid. I guess it's only the popular categories the majority here disagrees with.
Definitely something weird going on. After Hours should be the sort of thing the Academy laps up.
Any decent enormous pop song like Blinding Lights usually gets a nom, and the album itself is "arty" while still being very accessible. Grammy's should be all over this.
It's also just Abel's best album since Trilogy.
but whatever, it's the Grammys. Go listen to Black Dresses and Armand Hammer and every other cool indie artist that will never get nominated
THE REAL TRAGEDY IS MAC MILLER NOT GETTING ANY NOMS FOR CIRCLES
Any decent enormous pop song like Blinding Lights usually gets a nom, and the album itself is "arty" while still being very accessible. Grammy's should be all over this.
It's also just Abel's best album since Trilogy.
but whatever, it's the Grammys. Go listen to Black Dresses and Armand Hammer and every other cool indie artist that will never get nominated
THE REAL TRAGEDY IS MAC MILLER NOT GETTING ANY NOMS FOR CIRCLES
In normal circumstances I might consider a reaction like this a little petty, but in this case it's pretty justified to call this out.
Blinding Lights was quite literally the song of the year, it was everywhere! It makes no sense for him not to get a single nomination.
Also, seriously, Yummy?!
Blinding Lights was quite literally the song of the year, it was everywhere! It makes no sense for him not to get a single nomination.
Also, seriously, Yummy?!
I honestly cannot believe anyone looks to these things for quality music. There is way too much good music being done everywhere for anyone to be able to actually pick up a handful of best albums or songs in any given year.
Anyway. I kinda get the feeling that's not what the conversation is about in the first place.
Anyway. I kinda get the feeling that's not what the conversation is about in the first place.
