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The Xbox Series S will be cheaper than a vial of Insulin in the USA
- Thread starter bob100
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Even if we weren't talking about a life-saving drug that is basically free in any other country, a coupon that saves you 70% is pretty bullshit.
Another reminder that healthcare and doctors don't exist in the US (no real doctor would be okay with that "system").
So proud having my country second there. Double than Canada, but minimum wage is $415 a month.
This is simply criminal. Health and Education should never be a business.
Good to know you like the idea of people dying because they can't afford to pay for what is a human right!
But housing is a human right, clothing, food. Electricity, internet. The list goes on.
The whole American healthcare system needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from the ground up to fix these issues. It will take decades to even make some progress.
Recently had to get some prescription strength hydrocortisone. The tube cost 49.99 with insurance.
I've been type-1 Diabetic for 16 years and our family financial situation wasn't great. This would've destroyed my family unless I chose to die as a mercy offering.
Luckily I live in a country where medicine isn't treated as a *privilege*.
Luckily I live in a country where medicine isn't treated as a *privilege*.
Thank you for posting this. That was very sobering.
The funny thing is, if you were to ask Amercians whether they believe drug costs should be regulated, I'm fairly certain the majority would say yes. Yet they continue to elect politicians who, at best, do nothing but pay lip service to the problems. Kind of similar to gun control.
I believe that special interests effectively controlling the political landscape (thanks, in large part, to the Citizens United ruling) is at the root of many of America's most pressing problems.
It sure is, you can pay anywhere from 100 to 350 plus for the same thing, purely coupon based. How nice for their outrageous profits that they have so much room to cut their fleece.
Every time I buy it from the pharmacy they double take like I'm a psycho and ask if I really want it. As if Insulin whether I need it for my cat or me or family or whoever is something you can just skip out on cause of the price. It's a joke.
Just saw this....WTF the US health system is a joke...thank god for the NHS
SAD.
All the fuckwits who are screwing up the country are the ones with the guns. So if it ever comes that they can't win elections through voter suppression, they'll just revolt and kill everyone on the opposition. That's what "freedom" really means to them. Cause they piss all over everything else in the constitution.
I wish their was a hell so people like Rupert Murdoch could burn in it for eternity. These rich billion fucks just couldn't pay a little bit of taxes, so they trained all their money on creating mass propaganda machines to get the stupid, uneducated mouth breathers to vote against their interests and blame the Democrats for their shitty lives.
The point I was trying to make (not very elegant), was that if you bring up the fact that healthcare is a human right, then people throw on 1000 other things which could be considered a human right. That's why I steer away from that argument, and instead focus on the insanity of the american healthcare system as it currently is.
I won't be taking a look at that, thank you.
Glad I don't even have twitter.
America is ruled by a minority. Most Americans believe in progressive causes but they don't necessarily vote that way. Which makes it incredibly frustrating.
It's crazy - going slightly OT I saw that the total cost of having a baby in the US is up to $30k (provided you don't have twins). That's the total money the health system bills, including scans, checkups etc.
That seems nuts to me - as well as profiteering on stopping deaths, they're also profiteering on generating life!
Here's a story about how the post-insurance cost of having a baby is still $4,000....all because employers are scrimping on their healthcare plans and high deductibles are going into the system.
www.theatlantic.com
Utterly wild that a country claims to be leader of the free world, but also gives zero fucks about looking after anyone, at any point, for anything.
That seems nuts to me - as well as profiteering on stopping deaths, they're also profiteering on generating life!
Here's a story about how the post-insurance cost of having a baby is still $4,000....all because employers are scrimping on their healthcare plans and high deductibles are going into the system.
The High Cost of Having a Baby in America
The average delivery now costs more than $4,500—even with insurance.
www.theatlantic.com
Utterly wild that a country claims to be leader of the free world, but also gives zero fucks about looking after anyone, at any point, for anything.
"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."
― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress
― Ronald Wright, A Short History of Progress
I'm curious how much of that is covered by an average insurance plan. Does anyone who regularly takes insulin and has insurance coverage have any insight on that?
I live in a country with universal healthcare that I support, and think the US should have too. Some f the posts here are a bit extreme saying the US is some failed developing country. Has anyone saying that spent any time in an actual undeveloped nation?
And as someone who knows the industry a bit it's more an issue with people not having insurance than drug prices. These high prices are never actually payed by the insurance companies, hospital, or government systems, they are used as the beginning price negotiations. A large government system can bring the prices down as they have a lot of bargaining power. So even just having that as an option is good, you don't even need to get rid of private insurance to improve the system.
Also while I'm not agains these discussions but is this, the gaming forum section, really the best place to discuss this?
And as someone who knows the industry a bit it's more an issue with people not having insurance than drug prices. These high prices are never actually payed by the insurance companies, hospital, or government systems, they are used as the beginning price negotiations. A large government system can bring the prices down as they have a lot of bargaining power. So even just having that as an option is good, you don't even need to get rid of private insurance to improve the system.
Also while I'm not agains these discussions but is this, the gaming forum section, really the best place to discuss this?
Actually, a large swathe of the US is pretty much indistinguishable from a 3rd world country.
Murica! Place where both things cost lots of money and are big business
Then you don't get insulin. Thats what makes this so fucking unbeleviable
Have you actually got any evidence for this claim? The poorest US state, Mississippi, has a GDP per capita of $31K, compared to somewhere like Bangladesh which is $2.1k. Mississippi has a higher GDP per capita than Spain or Italy.
Shouldn't this be in EtcetEra? It's more about the cost of Isulin then the Xbox itself.
It's more of the fact that the US is lacking things other 1st world countries have and use, even though we should are equal or better than them GDP wise.
Don't like T1 diabetics die without insulin? So I have to ask again, how the fuck does that work? You are just like left alone to die? What the fuck man.
Because since the 2016 US election everywhere online seems to be used to push peoples political ideology.
Outside of healthcare, which I agree about (but it's still no where near as bad as an actual developing nations), what else? Many in the US seems to have a distorted view of other developed nations.
Serious question for those with T1D living in the US, how do you actually afford that? That would be essentially half of my fortnightly take home pay if I converted it to AUD.... I'd be living in poverty.
Yeah, if I ever got diagnosed with diabetes and needed insulin like that, I would most likely try to find a way to move to another country or, more like, just kill myself. I'm not going through all that mess one way or another. Hopefully I never have, but I do have several family members who have some form of diabetes, so it's very possible.
I mean the things you listed *are* human rights. Listing other human rights that many people are denied is not a counter argument to universal healthcare, it's just showing how deeply and broadly fucked up the system is.
You can still get cheap generics and vouchers but yeah, the situation is completely fucked. Not having health care can be a death sentence if you can't afford your meds out of pocket and can't find any other options.
Also, Monster is really passing up some good cross promotion potential with their energy drinks here.
Also, Monster is really passing up some good cross promotion potential with their energy drinks here.