Why? Where should marginalized communities gather and communicate on a large scale? What's your suggestion?
If user data is a concern the CCP has far better ways to acquire it. They'd just have to go through the same channels they have before. US social media companies.
See this is the kind of thing i think we don't have all the information for. It's so weird that both sides fully agreed with the tiktok ban so readily. I know some conservatives came out saying oh the Isreal stuff was part of it, but who knows if they aren't purposefully stirring the pot. There was a closed door meeting before they voted on it then right after both parties agree like that? I really think there's more going on, but in this day and age i don't understand why they wouldn't be more transparent though.Not the first time~~
Remember the SUPER-MICRO thing?
Supermicro spy chips, the sequel: It really, really happened, and with bad BIOS and more, insists Bloomberg
Server maker says latest article is 'a mishmash of disparate allegations'www.theregister.com
The one putting chip onto thing is...the US?
Photos of an NSA "upgrade" factory show Cisco router getting implant
Photos of an NSA “upgrade” factory show Cisco router getting implant
Servers, routers get “beacons” implanted at secret locations by NSA’s TAO team.arstechnica.com
That Huwai is spying, but after a 18 month investigation, no evidence of spying, just as bad as US network maker on security
White House-ordered review found no evidence of Huawei spying
Sinister secret backdoor found in networking gear perfect for government espionage: The Chinese are – oh no, wait, it's Cisco again
Sinister secret backdoor found in networking gear perfect for government espionage: The Chinese are – oh no, wait, it's Cisco again
Better ban this gear from non-US core networks, right?
So Tango Gameworks is an American company? Ubisoft Quebec is a French studio?
Literal nazi Elon Musk literally JUST personally unbanned the nazi pedophile known as Nick Fuentes, this action coming a month after directing his followers to attack a consulting company for promoting diversity in gaming. This comes after making it extremely easy to spread misinformation on the platform, which does include, targeted harassment. If you're that out of touch with what's going on with social media companies, especially as it pertains to why the youth are choosing one thing over another, then read up on it before posting about a topic.
Why would it even need to be available in China when they have the original in Douyin?
Why would China even need to go to them for user data when Facebook and Twitter have already sold them that data multiple times?
It's run by a Nazi?
arstechnica.com
What is your actual position here? That tiktok isn't actually owned by a Chinese company?
you couldn't have picked a worse example.
No, my point is that the China scaremongering is very transparent Sinophobia. Which has on multiple occasions been people, members of this forum included, implying that Singapore and China are one and the same. As I said above, those same people most likely didn't start referring to Tango Gameworks as an American game developer just because it was owned by Microsoft. At least the politicians are honest about it.
Oh I forgot to mention that the latest change to twitter is that blocking no longer stops people from viewing your posts. So Elon personally made it easier for trolls to cyberstalk people. Especially people like Mark Kern who's entire grift is targeted harassment against game developers. 🙃
You know, if we take a step back and look at their careers, I think it's a really good idea to side with people Mitt Romney, Tom Cotton, and Mike Lawler on an issue.
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Because everyone knows it's necessary but acknowledge that it will be a political hit to address so they are treating it like a hot potato and thrusting it on the opposing parties plate so they can take the hit. This is pretty basic politics
Ah yes, the Greater Good conscientious Republican. Wild for them to come back right now for reasons that validate previous biases.
Nowhere did I say we need to be like China. I'm not encouraging the Us to disappear people who post Donald Trump memes. But not every segment of every market needs to be globalized. Especially segments that are prone to abuse or in this case mass information collection.
Absolutely incredible to name drop a bunch of topics that are able to be openly discussed on Tiktok in a post trying to prove that the Chinese government suppresses information on Tiktok. Almost like the faulty logic is rooted in age old Sinophobia or something. A thing that's not at all pertinent to what average Amrricans actually NEED to care about. Let's ask Tom Cotton.
You have people saying it's hypocritical that Twitter and Facebook are still allowed. Pointing out that they aren't in China and that other countries very much do not allow social media from other hostile nations is pretty relevant. Would you have preferred I mentioned Russia instead despite China being the country in question that so many folks here seem totally fine with allowing to continue conducting said business on the US?
If you're wondering why I linked to that article that is only one of multiple examples of racism from the main. Below is him displaying some pretty blatant anti-asian racism to a Singaporean man.
The US government, afaik, hasn't cited the fact that TikTok is operated in a hostile nation as the reason why they're gunning for a ban. They have said:
No one is defending China by saying the reasons the US government gave for banning TikTok don't pass the sniff test. And we also don't want to get into a pissing match about which government is more dangerous because the US still loses in spades.
On this specific issue, one wherein the politicians are openly spelling out their motivations, and are openly being racist assholes on camera, you don't gotta hand it to them. Because yes it IS co-signing those viewpoints. Even if unintentionally, hence the need for self reflection. Because this is like the tenth thread on this issue where people try to use the exact same China scaremongering rhetoric that's completely out of touch with three generations of people. Millenials, gen Z, and Gen alpha dont feel threatened by China, because the biggest threat to the US is the US itself.
Bingo. As for the claim of Sinophobia, there's tons of Chinese owned companies being run in the US that aren't being singled out like TikTok.
Chinese state actors attempt to compromise US information systems with sensitive data on a regular basis. The place I work for has attempts made on employee accounts on a daily basis. They have the most expensive most expansive digital intelligence gathering apparatus in the world. You want proof that the information security and data collection concerns are real? Look at how the government has handled the use of TikTok on federal employee and military devices. It is not allowed. That wasn't because of leftist memes or propaganda. Blocking an app on government employee devices was done for a reason.
Neither companies have suffered any meaningful consequences for genuinely selling user data to foreign adversaries let alone not only refusing to do anything about the abuse and spread of misinformation on their platforms which contributed to what is the current largest threat to America atm but they straight up BOOSTED that shit. Yet I'm supposed to be concerned about TikTok? If anything, I have no reason to believe that TikTok, owned by America, wouldn't be demonstrably worse.
So Sinophobia and addressing an issue that is, very out of touch with what three generations of Americans actually care about instead of addressing the issues America is currently facing. Got it. 👍
